No...100%

I too stand corrected then

Right ive started a war here but to add to it my mates passat 55plate has got via vcds the fog lights activated to come on with the main beam aswell as with the fog light switch work from both sources he got it done when he got the car and is trying to get a hold of the member on the tdi forum that done it for him to find out what its under or called.

There is an option in VCDS to NOT turn off the front fogs when main beam is turned on.

By default, they will turn off when you activate main beam, if the front fogs were turned on when on dipped beam.

This is slightly different to what you originally posted, which was, if I understood correctly, to have the front fogs wired in so that every time you activated main beam the front fogs came on as well, regardless of if they were turned on with dipped beam or not.

i think they way i want to wire them with them only coming on with full beam no other way as soon as full beam is off there off as to not dazzle anyone on the road is classed as full beam assistance lights might be called somethin else over here i read that on an american forum. but would anyone know if the inserts would fit.

i think they way i want to wire them with them only coming on with full beam no other way as soon as full beam is off there off as to not dazzle anyone on the road is classed as full beam assistance lights might be called somethin else over here i read that on an american forum. but would anyone know if the inserts would fit.

Regardless of when they come on, the beam pattern and position of a fog light is very different to that of a driving light (Main beam assistance as you call it). The dipped beam stay on with the full beam, so you still get the lighting up close to the car. Driving lights are supposed to project a large amount of light, a good distance along the road.

FOr example real fog/driving lights below:

Fog:

http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&k=s&p=8467679

Driving:

http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&k=s&p=8467681

Wide spread and long distance.

Adding a set of fog lamps won't help you at all. If you really want to do it. get some proper driving lights that you can fit into the cut outs or mount higher up (like the oscars).

These cost a pittance and would probably fit in the cut out:

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_categoryId_165688_productId_170170_langId_-1?cm_mmc=Shopping-_-Google%20Product%20Search-_-Car%20Accessories%20%26%20Styling%2FLighting-_-Ring%20Roadrunner%20Rectangular%20Driving%20Lights&source=shopping

Edited 11 January, 201214 yr by cheezemonkhai

There is an option in VCDS to NOT turn off the front fogs when main beam is turned on.

By default, they will turn off when you activate main beam, if the front fogs were turned on when on dipped beam.

To the best of my knowledge, my car's not been touched by VCDS, yet. (That'll be soon.)

The front fogs stay on when I activate the main beam.

I'm beginning to wonder if different options were set at different production times/runs and such sweeping statements as "by default...." have limited validity, especially given the lifetime of the Octy II (8 years now, in total?) and the amount of times options have changed over that time. (just as an example, there are some pre-FL Octys with FL interiors.)

Apparently "by default" I should need to add a wire to the headlight switch to allow auto-lights, and yet, just popping the switch in and switching it to auto switched the lights on (not 100% correctly, yet). Ergo, the "missing wire" isn't missing after all.

I understand exactly what the OP is after, as I've been after the same thing. Hopefully, at the weekend, there'll be a quick search for "Driving assistance lights" in VCDS.

If we find it, I'll let you all know

To answer part of the original question: I'd go for these fog-lights instead ;)

Or maybe

Edited 11 January, 201214 yr by RainbowFore

But it is still illegal to use FOG lights when there is no fog or falling snow, that is lights fitted in a position I described above, irrespective of how many other lights are switched on or fitted. In clear conditions it is illegal to use these lights and they should definitely NOT be wired to come on automatically with the main beam or otherwise or you could get your collar felt.

Incidentally, every light (apart from low power side lights) must not exceed a height at their centres of 3ft 6ins (or metric equivalent), although it's common to see HGV's with a row of lights across the top of the cab, but it's still illegal.

Mac

OK, there are laws and rules in place but let's be honest, having the fog lights come on with main beam isn't going to cause anyone any issue.

Yes, the letter of the law states you shouldn't do it but how many people drive around with their front fogs on with dipped headlights? Even these plonkers don't drive along with main beam on. I've never driven towards another vehicle with main beam on let alone a police car so the chances of getting your 'collar felt' are virtually nil.

Threads like this always end up in a debate on the correct use of vehicle lighting and the Highway Code.

My daily commute involves long stretches on dark unlit country roads; I can drive for miles without seeing another car. I therefore often drive with dipped headlights, main beam and front fogs on. The front fogs on my car are great for lighting up the verge and the new pot holes that regularly appear and exposing suicidal wildlife. As it's so dark I can see an oncoming car long before we meet so have time to turn off the front fogs and main beam before it comes into view, being able to turn the front fogs on and off with main beam would be a useful mod.

The front fogs on my car are great for lighting up the verge and the new pot holes that regularly appear and exposing suicidal wildlife.

I have a vision of your car with a rows of crossed out rabbits and foxes on the side of your car now :giggle:

Edited 12 January, 201214 yr by RainbowFore

Nevertheless, although it may be useful to use fog lights when there is no fog, etc., even with main beam, is still illegal. I'm merely pointing out the law on the subject and the highway code is NOT the be all and end all and sometimes gets misinterpreted and exists just to explain the do's and dont's in everyday language - consult the actual regulation if you want chapter and verse.

As far as a Passat is concerned, the programming will have been set up so that it works for all the countries it is exported to, in other words what may be legal in one country may be illegal in another. Manufacturers only set the programming to what is strictly required in law in a particular country and nothing more, hence for example, only one rear foglight activated instead of the two fitted even though that would be handy and legal.

Mac

Reading this I see Fog Lights can be used at any time when there is reduced visibility (with the proviso they are switched off when visibility returns or may dazzle other road users) Darkness usually reduces visibility to less than 100 meters!!

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069859

OK so here's the law... additional lights can be fitted about anywhere on the front as long as they are not further towards the outside of the vehicle than the dipped beam! So yes the OP can have driving lights that come on with main beam in the "fog light" enclosure!

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/schedule/5/made

Nevertheless, although it may be useful to use fog lights when there is no fog, etc., even with main beam, is still illegal. I'm merely pointing out the law on the subject and the highway code is NOT the be all and end all and sometimes gets misinterpreted and exists just to explain the do's and dont's in everyday language - consult the actual regulation if you want chapter and verse.

Mac

So, in essence, what you're saying is that the cornering light system fitted to many Skodas, Mercedes-Benz and many many other marques, is illegal and the legislation was mis-interpreted by all of those manufacturers.

However, from what I recall, european legislation over-rides local legislation B) (hence the whole DRL and HID thing and you'll notice they're all ECE regulations, not UK regulations). If ECE regulations permit the use of fog(/multi-function) lights to be used as auxhillary driving lights, the UK regulations become redundant and over-ridden.......

......welcome to Europe!

right bought skoda fog lights bought h8 led bulbs wired them up to my main beam and drove home tonight and wot a diffrence it makes driving on the types of roads i use which can only be classed as worse than any forestry roads. its much easier to see large and small holes in the road. had a word with a local police man was goin past the police station and popped in asked if they would have anything to say on it and his words were "we wouldnt have a problem with it aslong as they turned off when full beam is turned off as it wouldn't dazzle other road users" he wasnt sure on if i would have a problem at mot time so ive put a inline fuse holder in the live wire incase i do so they can be turned off completly. anyone who wanted to do this its well worth it. for anyone who came on to this to see an answer to my initial question as there was no answer just the rules gettin flung about no the golf inserts dont fit tried it yesterday.