Hi, as above. These have caught my eye lately as I need something that is a great family car and a decent drivers car. My current MKII VRS has done me proud but I feel the styling is dated now so with the next gen VRS a short while off i've been looking at other things. With 2 young kids this seems to tick all the right boxes.

My mileage is low and I do lots of short journeys so a diesel is off as I would probably kill the DPF, plus I prefer the drive of a petrol. So, how good is the 1.8TSI 4x4 in SE plus spec? I know most people buy diesels, but it seems this could be the best of both worlds for me and for what I want it for.

MPG seems reasonable for what's on offer, and the spec seems decent (Elegance is a bit out of my league) & gives me everything that I would want.

Thinking long term, is it likley this will still be popular and sought after, or will this be difficult to sell on?

I got a nearly new, pre registered (75 miles on the clock) 1.8 TSi 4x4 Elegance for £4K off the list price! I'm getting 30mpg (mixture of urban short journeys and A roads, not really motorway) and love it. So get googling......

Calculated my urban/b-road journeys and higher cost of diesel meant a petrol made more sense. And it's more fun to rev when alone on a twisty b-road!

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Whilst I have averaged 30.1 mpg over the lat 18,000 miles, (it's 2 years old in April) the consumption deteriorates considerably when traveling above 60mph or so. I believe the diesels' consumption is less affected by motorway speeds. Having said that, compared with the extra cost of buying a diesel & the increased cost of diesel fuel, and potential DPF issues in later life, I am still winning overall. And it's a hoot to drive!

Mine was a pre-reg car with 60 miles on the clock. I was able to take delivery 2 days after signing the paperwork which was immeasurably better than the anticipated 3 month wait that I was warned about (which would actually have ended up being 6 months) for the 170bhp diesel that I had originally wanted.

I am more than happy with my purchase!

I got my 1.8Tsi just before Christmas and have done nearly 2000 miles so far. My logic was similar to yours as I do a mix of short and quite long journeys but not a huge annual total so was happier with a petrol engine, especially given the price of diesel now.

I am really pleased with the mix of performance and comfort it offers; you can drive on the torque of the engine (pulls smoothly from about 1200 rpm) or run it up through the revs for a sportier drive. Considering this is a small SUV with real offroad/bad weather abilities I think it is a great car. I am averaging just over 30 mpg but on a good run on A-roads have seen nearly 40 mpg. As Speedsport says, going over 60 makes a noticeable difference, but I recently did a 400 mile return trip up and down the A1 at 70 - 80 mph and still averaged 32 mpg.

Unless you do really high mileages I don't think you will regret choosing the 1.8Tsi.

I came from a 1.8TSI Octavia to my 170 TDI Yeti and I much prefer the 170 TDI engine in all respects. Just as fast and much more flexible. I only do 10,000 per year so perhaps an accountants view may be that I should stick to petrol but if I did that I would have chosen a 1.2 or 1.4TSI Yeti. Over 6660 miles I have done (calculated accurately) 42mpg.

Based on the above two posts only (and assuming petrol is 9p/litre cheaper than diesel), the TDi has saved £239 in fuel costs over the 6660 miles quoted when compared with the TSi. This equates to a £359 saving p.a. based on 10,000 miles annually. With a fair ownership term and higher residuals I, too, prefer the diesel version. Hoever, I do higher private mileage than most, so it will not be relevant to everybody.

I would add that I sold my nearly new 1.8TSI Octavia (L&K) for a very low price indeed (I really coveted a Yeti) with the sales people saying as an apology - "but if only it was a diesel".

Based on the above two posts only (and assuming petrol is 9p/litre cheaper than diesel), the TDi has saved £239 in fuel costs over the 6660 miles quoted when compared with the TSi. This equates to a £359 saving p.a. based on 10,000 miles annually. With a fair ownership term and higher residuals I, too, prefer the diesel version. Hoever, I do higher private mileage than most, so it will not be relevant to everybody.

My pre-registered (as new, 75miles on the clock) 1.8TSi was £5K less than a new 170 diesel. I couldn't find a nearly new 170 diesel anywhere. As I'm borrowing that cash it equals about £6K. I plan on keeping the Yeti for at least 5 years doing about 10K pa so fuel saving is only £359 x 5 = £1,795 (lets assume price ratio petrol to diesel stays constant). Extra £80 quid a year road tax is offset by cheaper insurance to repair the petrol. So far I'm £4205 in credit and the first 'registrar' has already taken a big chunk of depreciation hit (and I'm hoping that in 5 years people may realise that a robust 1.8 petrol is cheaper to replace bits on than the technically complex diesel!)

Yes, I'd like the torque of the diesel but four grand buys a decent secondhand motorbike!

Oh, and I drove home in my new toy within 1hour of arriving at the dealers.....not 7months+...!

Whilst I have averaged 30.1 mpg over the lat 18,000 miles, (it's 2 years old in April) the consumption deteriorates considerably when traveling above 60mph or so. I believe the diesels' consumption is less affected by motorway speeds. Having said that, compared with the extra cost of buying a diesel & the increased cost of diesel fuel, and potential DPF issues in later life, I am still winning overall. And it's a hoot to drive!

Mine was a pre-reg car with 60 miles on the clock. I was able to take delivery 2 days after signing the paperwork which was immeasurably better than the anticipated 3 month wait that I was warned about (which would actually have ended up being 6 months) for the 170bhp diesel that I had originally wanted.

I am more than happy with my purchase!

Except for the SE Plus trim level then the TDI 110 4x4 is cheaper to buy than the 1.8TSI and holds it's value more.

If buying new 1.8TSI then only the SE Plus makes sense to me.

Regards,

TP

My pre-registered (as new, 75miles on the clock) 1.8TSi was £5K less than a new 170 diesel. I couldn't find a nearly new 170 diesel anywhere. As I'm borrowing that cash it equals about £6K. I plan on keeping the Yeti for at least 5 years doing about 10K pa so fuel saving is only £359 x 5 = £1,795 (lets assume price ratio petrol to diesel stays constant). Extra £80 quid a year road tax is offset by cheaper insurance to repair the petrol. So far I'm £4205 in credit and the first 'registrar' has already taken a big chunk of depreciation hit (and I'm hoping that in 5 years people may realise that a robust 1.8 petrol is cheaper to replace bits on than the technically complex diesel!)

Yes, I'd like the torque of the diesel but four grand buys a decent secondhand motorbike!

Oh, and I drove home in my new toy within 1hour of arriving at the dealers.....not 7months+...!

Wow - someone else actually also did the sums before assuming the diesel offers a cheaper cost of ownership! Mines two years old now (with 24,000 faultless miles on the clock) and I've just been offered 17k for it by a dealer. That's a loss of just under £4,500 in two years which im really impressed with tbh. :-) Btw - a remap on the 1.8TSi gives diesel like torque but over a far greater rev range with power to 6,500rpm. The result is quicker real world performance. Economy wise I get 30mpg average and have had 48mpg doing a steady 65mph between southern Germany and the Swiss Alps. The 1.8 is very smooth and refined to boot.

Thanks for the info guys, very useful. The 1.8TSi is also a no brainer for me over a diesel (lets not turn this in to another one of those threads...). I do 8k pa, my commute is 3 miles each way and once I month I do a 200 mile round trip down the motorway. On top of this I like taking extended drives when I get chance at the weekend asI enjoy driving. To me this has petrol written all over it!

SE Plus seems like a good spec level and has just what I need. I've had a quick look around and it seems the pre-reg cars have disappeared so if I want one i'll have to buy new. Plus if I get one I want that panoramic roof!!!

A remap sounds good, can this be taken close to 200bhp?

If I was going to have 2 cars then I would buy the 1.4TSI and have something sporty in the garage, but right now I don't want to be paying 2 lots of everything so a 1.8 TSI would hopefully suit me just fine! A 1.8 SE Plus seems like quite a good deal if you can get it for a good price - it's got bags of equipment and very flexible and is somehow still cheaper than most other cars out there - which is a surprise considering how much a new VRS or Superb is these days.

re: dealer trade in - tbh sometimes it is often dealers using diesel as an excuse to buy petrol cars cheap, not true in all cases but it is an easy thing for them to run off.

Problem I now have is I can't find a 1.8TSI to drive to see if I like it

I think the SE Plus is very well priced, considering it has more kit than the SE and cost less.

The only complaints on the forum so far is the seat fabrics, I don't see any problems with them.

I have never driven the 1.8 TSI so cannot offer any opinion, but only thing I would say is I was expecting the 1.8 TSI to have poor depreciation and I actually thought I could change my 1.2 TSI to a 1.8 TSI in a couple of years time with little margin - but it doesn't look like it would happen as the 1.8 TSI does hold its value quite well!

Except for the SE Plus trim level then the TDI 110 4x4 is cheaper to buy than the 1.8TSI and holds it's value more.

If buying new 1.8TSI then only the SE Plus makes sense to me.

Not sure the 110TDi matches the performance of the 1.8TSi though, and I suspect 1.8 TSi owners are not the "shy retiring type" performance-wise

I need something that is a great family car and a decent drivers car.

I am loving my 1.8TSI, can be driven like a hot-hatch or as a comfy family car. I do low mileage so not bothered about mpg. I drove the 170bhp diesel in a Tiguan, and while it is probably the best diesel I've driven I still prefer petrols for driving involvement.

Many thanks, sounds good. Any good deals going on these atm or is that for a separate thread?!

Whilst I have since even doubted myself and considered a diesel, i'm now back in the TSI camp. As mentioned, for driver involvment it is the way to go.

Out of interest, what is the fuel consumption of the 1.8tsi around London where you average over a tankful (my diesel will do about 450 miles) 16mph? For that I mean driving stop start, congestion, queues, taking an hour to do 10 miles? My diesel will average about 30mpg in those conditions, but I suspect the 1.8tsi will be nearer 20mpg....

Having just read through this thread I'll offer two 'pearls of wisdom' for Weyland;-

1. Fuel consumption on a Yeti takes a nose dive over 60-65mph regardless of whether is is a diesel or petrol simply due to it being shaped like a brick.

2. The diesel vs. petrol equation on residuals is very finely balanced at present and IMHO I would not be surprised if, in 3 - 5 years time, the scales will have swung back towards petrol being better. Do remember that, whilst a current 3 year old diesel will have a better residual than its petrol counterpart, it will have cost more in the first place.

3. I appreciate your comments that you are looking for an SE plus as it gives you 'all that you need'. However do take a serious look at the Elegance. I know it costs more but it gives you some important items of kit i.e. xenon headlights, that are extra on other model and IMHO the SE 'plus' is really a marketing ploy and in 3 -5 years time the 'book' will gloss over the 'plus' part of the spec and it may well be valued more as an SE; whereas an Elegance will be an Elegance. PS> With young family in mind, leather seats are easier to clean than cloth with the inevitable spills of this and that.

Food for thought.

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Yes I've reported it to the superiors. I just replied as normal. It is a bug in the system upgrade I suspect.

Having just read through this thread I'll offer two 'pearls of wisdom' for Weyland;-

1. Fuel consumption on a Yeti takes a nose dive over 60-65mph regardless of whether is is a diesel or petrol simply due to it being shaped like a brick.

2. The diesel vs. petrol equation on residuals is very finely balanced at present and IMHO I would not be surprised if, in 3 - 5 years time, the scales will have swung back towards petrol being better. Do remember that, whilst a current 3 year old diesel will have a better residual than its petrol counterpart, it will have cost more in the first place.

3. I appreciate your comments that you are looking for an SE plus as it gives you 'all that you need'. However do take a serious look at the Elegance. I know it costs more but it gives you some important items of kit i.e. xenon headlights, that are extra on other model and IMHO the SE 'plus' is really a marketing ploy and in 3 -5 years time the 'book' will gloss over the 'plus' part of the spec and it may well be valued more as an SE; whereas an Elegance will be an Elegance. PS> With young family in mind, leather seats are easier to clean than cloth with the inevitable spills of this and that.

Food for thought.

Also remember ESP has saved more lives (by preventing accidents) than airbags (that only help after the accident has happened). I will never ever buy a car as tall as the Yeti without ESP - no make that ANY car no matter how tall, heavy or low. ESP of course comes as standard with the Elegance spec.

Confuses me why comments that the diesel is more expensive to buy keep coming up. As stated the 110 4x4 is a few hundred pounds cheaper in all but SE Plus trim to purchase new RRP. OK not as quick but has better performance than the figures suggest; almost on par with the 140.

Was offered to switch to a 1.8TSI when my 110 4x4 got delayed, however rough calculations at the time, suggested it would cost me about 2-3k more in ownership costs, so I rejected the offer.

Regards,

TP

Some really good observations above, but I can give you some reassurance on your decision making (of course we both could be wrong!). I too do around 8000-9000 miles and want a vehicle that will be fun as well as practical for the family. I currently drive a TDI octavia, so am open minded in the diesel/petrol argument.

The car I have chosen? Tada: a 1.8TSI 4x4 Yeti in the SE+ trim!

The SE+ trim represents really good value. The main draw back seems to be strong reactions to the Crystal fabric trim, I really don't have a strong opinion on it to be honest! There is a significant price difference between the SE+ and the Elegance, the main gains being leather, Xeon's and off road button, by the way ESP is standard with all 4x4 Yeti's no matter what the trim level! The main lose between SE+ and Elegance is the loss of Sat Nav (although it's the less specified Admundsen, opposed to the £1200 option Columbus - so no great sweat there!), a 6CD auto changer if you are specifying the Columbus and a set of fabic car mats (ok not a big loss - but might take the pressure of the Crystal!).

If I did 10-12k+ a year it would've been the 170 Diesel, but under 10k with a 'fun' specification it had to be the 1.8TSI! This was the car driven by Top Gear and Honest John and they both loved it - described as a 'hot hatch' type experience!

Word of warning: it is often reported that the petrols come through quicked than the Diesels, but I have been waiting 5 months so far! Last update from dealer (yesterday) was week 12, although not confirmed. If it is delivered then it will have been 7 months!

...by the way ESP is standard with all 4x4 Yeti's no matter what the trim level!

I must, must go and memorise that brochure! LOL I stand corrected re ESP.

I do about 12,000 miles a year and wanted a DSG. I tow a utility trailer, sometimes have bikes on the roof, or a roof box and go to all sorts of places, so needed grunt and a 4x4 - so no 1,2 DSG for me. So there is only ONE Yeti to go for in my case: the 140 diesel DSG. Had we got the 1,8 DSG I would have had to make some sums in terms of mileage, but as it stands I'm happy with my diesel.

My main gripe with petrols is how you have to row the gears to get the car in the sweet spot to overtake or get into a gap in traffic. I hear people say the turbo 1,8 does not suffer from this and you can get into these gaps as easily as the torque of the diesel allows you to. So my one gripe with a petrol does not hold water anymore apparently. Having been in FocusZtec's 210bhp + 1,8 I can vouch it SHIFTS big time compared to mine or Rockhopper's chipped 140. The difference is like night and day.

I do not however want to be owner 2 or 3 with a modern CR diesel. Nope. THEN you want the 1,8 for sure as it will cost you a fair packet less to service I suspect the older the car gets.

Confuses me why comments that the diesel is more expensive to buy keep coming up. As stated the 110 4x4 is a few hundred pounds cheaper in all but SE Plus trim to purchase new RRP. OK not as quick

I think thats the point right there - people are trying to compare the two different fuel options at comparable performance levels, hence why people wouldnt compare the ownership costs of the 110 and the 1.8TSi.