Hi,

I came across a very interesting discussion forum that discusses the viability of diesel in F1.

More importantly it points the technical direction diesel engines may go in the next few years.

Interesting?

John

Most of that went straight over my head but I suppose the jist is that diesel engines might be feasible in F1 if there was a change in the rules like in endurance racing.

Worth the read though.

Doubt diesel will ever be used in F1.

It's way too expensive.

diesel race cars shouldn't be allowed in any series. except maybe banger racing?

diesel race cars shouldn't be allowed in any series. except maybe banger racing?

On the other hand, if you subscribe to the idea that Touring Car racing should reflect the kind of cars people are actually driving, should they not be encouraging diesel participation?

On the other hand, if you subscribe to the idea that Touring Car racing should reflect the kind of cars people are actually driving, should they not be encouraging diesel participation?

There will be no diesel in Touring car in a few races. Tom Boardman and one other SEAT still use the 2 litre diesel but are about a second a lap slower than the 1.6 litre petrol engine which despite being only 80% of the capacity produces about 10% more power.

Diesels may have peaked in sales terms now. It depends on two main things, how countries tax diesel cars and diesel fuel versus petrol. UK is unusual in that it taxes diesel fuel same as petrol ie about 58 pence a litre. Nearly all countries in the world tax diesel fuel less than petrol as diesel inflation feeds through to other inflation, petrol less so.

Audi diesel R10, R15, R18 are awesome machines. No Peugeot this year but will be interesting to see how the Toyota petrol hybrids go, for competition sake let us hope that Toyota have learnt a thing or two after spending quarter of a billion pounds a year on F1 and seeing very little for it!

Edited 8 April, 201214 yr by lol

Isnt the fuel used in F1 over 100RON?

This will mean more power then a diesel.

F1 fuel doesn't contain anything exotic any more and the cars can even run fine on Shell stuff as this vid shows. I'm guessing V Power though but as Alonso said the only difference was a bit of hesitation on pick up but again that was down the map needing a tweak. Full power was identical.

To answer a post: Doubt diesel will ever be used in F1 - It's way too expensive - when has money ever been an issue in F1

Technically speaking, a Le Mans diesel prototype (P1) had more advanced engines than current F1 cars

diesel race cars shouldn't be allowed in any series. except maybe banger racing?

Don't forget tractor pulling

Don't forget tractor pulling

very funny - mazda 3 1.6 couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding - lol

F1 fuel doesn't contain anything exotic any more and the cars can even run fine on Shell stuff as this vid shows. I'm guessing V Power though but as Alonso said the only difference was a bit of hesitation on pick up but again that was down the map needing a tweak. Full power was identical.

Think this is a bit of a PR stunt, im sure they still put some sort of higher explosive chemicals to increase the energy output on ignition with race fuel.

I always assumed the difference between race fuel and road fuel was the purity/quality of the fuel? Somehow electrically align them or something magical so they have a better burn?

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very funny - mazda 3 1.6 couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding - lol

Correct, my car has never pulled my pudding. Can't speak for you though.

Steamed pudding is my bag