Quick question to everyone, (off-topic banter welcome ), anybody know if the anti-roll bar (sway bar - conecting L&R wheels) off a felicia would fit onto a favorit? Or even if the favorits had them fitted to some models? Any help would be appreciated and if anyone has one kicking about do they want to sell it?

Thanks in advance

Kris

Don't think the favorits had them. You would probably need the mounting holes etc as doubt the favorit will have them but yes it should fit.

Phil

I didn't think they did either but was just double checking, and mounting hole etc are not a problem for me, do you know where they fitted exactly? And where I could get one from?

Thank you for your help

Kris

I think you'd need the wishbones from the Fel for the ARB to mount to? I'm not sure if they'd fit - certainly they wouldn't directly as the rear mount of the wishbone is different between Fel and Fav, (from the bits I have at home, but maybe an early Fel was the same, pre-RB), but could possibly be adapted to fit? Then of course you need to have the mounts to the subframe which again is quite different (although a pre-RB Fel would be different again, I think they were more Fav-like underneath, certainly had a similar bulkhead and chassis legs whereas the RB ones are quite different).

Jim will no doubt correct me on most if not all of this!

Hmm a lot to consider I was hoping for more of a direct fitment but I am rather good at making things fit and as you said I do belive the earlier fellys were more fav like

Thank you for your inputs much appreciated

Kris

the easier way is to fit a felicia x member but its not straightforward at all, you could fit felicia wishbones but then you need to swap the rear mounts for fav ones and fabricate up some brackets to hold the ARB to the x member etc.

to fit the felly x member you also need the rear gearbox mount too (much better than the fav one) so need a few gearbox bolts and to find a way to align everything back up afterwards.

fitting a decent strutbrace will have a better effect on a fav.

Ahh so not the easiest task to take on then, and I have already fabricated my own strut brace(and strut brace to subframe conecting rods) and it works a treat, was just looking for more stability. Do you know if fely lowering/stiffer coils will fit the fav?

Kris

Pretty sure mk1 focus coilovers will fit the favorit and mk1(shorter) /mk2/mk3(much longer) golf coilovers will fit the back.

Someone should be able to confirm this....

you will put so many parts on a Favorit to make it a decent car, that one day you'll discover a Felicia in your courtyard.

a good steering is much more than fitting things.

felly springs are much shorter than fav ones so be carefull there

I've fitted a front ARB on my favorit... I got some felicia wishbones with the ARB mounting holes in them and then removed the rear mounts from them and replaced them with favorit ones. I then drilled holes in the subframe to take the ARB mounting brackets. I re-used the existing ARB mounting brackets...

However, as Jim said the best way would be to change to the felicia subframe.

Thank you ever so much for your help, I may have to have a little re-think on my plans, I take it that its quite difficut to make an ARB?

Kris

Difficult to make a front one yes due to the parts it has to clear under the car and the shape required for this.

Phil

If I could make one clearing all the parts required, where does it have to attach to and how? And is there a specific kind of material it has to be made from?

Kris

It needs to be attached firmly to the body, and then to each of the front wishbones. The felicia design looks to me like it was an afterthought as such as it goes under a couple of places leading to it decreasing the ground clearance, one of the reasons I've not bothered with one on the Felicia (plus I don't do any tarmac in it, so it seems less important to me).

Making one is possible, but I think there would be a fair bit of messing about needed to make one that will work well and fit OK. And then of course you have to make it the correct stiffness, OR you can do something like they did on Escort WRCs and similar where you have a rigid bar linking the two sides and then tunable sections linking them to the wishbones:

The tapered looking bits are these parts, they are effectively a flat bar, and altering their angle to the load allows you to tune them precisely without needing to replace any parts.