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Diesel/Vacuum pump PD130 ASZ

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Hey folks.

I'm sking this in here as the Fabia vRS seems to be the most popular car to have a PD130 in it.

Mine is an ASZ engine and the diesel/vacuum pump on the side of the engine is leaking.

Is this DIY-able? Not sure of the pressures involved.

It looks pretty easy to remove owing to it's accesible location and none of the bolts should be sized as they're all nice and oily from the leak.

Not sure if it's the pump for just the seal at the moment but hoping to get a new seal and take the pump off and have a look. If it's the seal then I can just put that on and if it's the pump then I can put it back for the time being and order a new one in the mean time.

Phil

Yep, it's do-able yourself.

Mine went on my first Fabia vRS.

Luckily i got a used one from here, although you can buy the seal/gasket kit for it and try that.

There was also a recall on some of the early LUK pumps...worth checking if it was ever changed.

:)

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That's what I wanted to hear.

Thanks.

How would I go about finding out about the recall though?

Phil

I'll see if i can find my original thread....

It was a good few years back so i cant remember how i found out about the recall.

Mine had already been done but was just unlucky with a leaky pump again.

A set of seals is around £7 retail from a dealer. There are slight variants, so make sure they use you VIN to get the right ones.

Found it:

http://www.vosa.gov....eeText=Blank=

Need to check the build date of my car. If this has never been carried out will I still be eligible for it?

Excellent.

In theory i'd say yes you should be eligible. Wether or not they'd honour it i don't know, but worth asking.

Workmate of mine has just had a recall done on his A4, which is 4 years out of warranty, and local dealer honoured it.:)

They can only say no!

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Cool.

Well I will check the build date of my car. Then ask them to check if it had the recall done. If it did have it done then I will just get them to order the seals. If I didn't then I will ask them very kindly to do it for me!

I also need to check if it had the recall regarding the airbag. The recall states that the airbag may fail to deploy in certain collision si****ions.

Lol... you've gotta love the swear filter. Why has it picked that up?!

Phil

A set of seals is around £7 retail from a dealer. There are slight variants, so make sure they use you VIN to get the right ones.

when you say a set do you mean more than one I understood that only the head to pump seal was available but would love to be proved wrong :sun:
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I think you might be right as I've been doing some searching around and have seen the same mentioned elsewhere.

Vag-cat boards seem to be down so I can't check on the parts catalogue.

Phil

If it turns out to be the pump itself rather than the gasket, I have a spare one in good nick. :)

It's a set of seals because it is a tandem pump (fuel/vacuum) and both seals need to be replaced when the unit is replaced.

On early Skoda versions the fuel seal is a 'figure of 8'. It and the vacuum seal are available separately.

On the later Skoda version the seals are part of a gasket. It could be the case that the Seats only ever had the later version which is part 038145215

If it turns out to be the pump itself rather than the gasket, I have a spare one in good nick. :)

Seeing as i bought one from you previously...i can vouch for Jasons pumps :D

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If it turns out to be the pump itself rather than the gasket, I have a spare one in good nick. :)

Thank you!

I will certainly take you up on that should I need a new pump.

Phil

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Just ordered the gasket for the pump. Will see how I get on and if it still leaks then I will drop you a PM Jason.

Also ordered a new turbo pipe clip and also the vacuum control unit has broken (the little nozzle for the anti shudder valve has snapped off). It comes complete with all the vacuum pipes which isn't a bad thing as a couple of them need replacing anyway.

Phil

keep us posted cheers

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Right. I finally got round to sorting this.

After the whole gearbox saga and now with a new clutch, DMF and rebuilt gearbox I thought it time to sort out the diesel leaking all over the gearbox housing.

Undid the bolts holding it on (4 in total all allen keys of 2 different sizes).

Put a load of kitchen roll undeneath as I couldn't budge any of the pipes to drain the fuel out. Not much came out anyway.

Removed the vacuum pipe off the back and unplugged the injector wiring to be able to wiggle it out enough with all the other hoses still attached.

All cleaned up and new gasket in place.

I can't see that any more diesel has leaked out but hard to tell as there is still a load of diesel over the gearbox from before. Will get some degreaser and give the engine a good going over this weekend then will be able to see better.

It didn't look to be leaking from the end plate which is good news (new pump otherwise as the seal isn't available seperately).

Cycled the ignition about 20 times to prime the system then turned it over continuously for about 20 seconds till it fired (less strain on the starter that way).

Phil

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Another update.

It was still leaking ad it seemed to be from the end plate.

No way was I forking out for a new pump for the sake of not being able to buy the new gasket for the end plate.

Got some gasket sealer. Been on a couple of days now and no sign of fuel.

Fingers crossed.

Phil

The recall was to replace the bolts on the end plate as they weren't done up properly. If its diesel leaking then it's the end plate not the main gasket normally as they leak engine oil. The torque on the end plate bolts was very important and quite tricky to do due to the stupidly shallow bolts they used.

The recall was to replace the bolts on the end plate as they weren't done up properly. If its diesel leaking then it's the end plate not the main gasket normally as they leak engine oil. The torque on the end plate bolts was very important and quite tricky to do due to the stupidly shallow bolts they used.

+1

IIRC, it's 20Nm for the upper bolts and only 10Nm for the lower ones. Overtighten the lower ones and it'll leak diesel.

The cover bolts were no where near that I don't think, they were M4 bolts I think, not much,more than screws. Low torque and then 90 degrees which was hard due to them being shallow. If you didn't use a T bar it always wanted to pull sideways and strip the head.

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Yeh I did email seat with my reg and VIN number and they confirmed that my car was not included in the recall for the pump.

It did occur to me at the time that I didn't know the torque to tighten to but just did them nice and "hand-tight" and it seems to have done the trick.

Will see how it goes anyway.

The pump on mine out of curiosity was branded as LUK. Can't remember which make of pump leaked and had the recall.

Phil

Silver end or black?

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It's got the black end on it (oooo eeer missus :wonder: )

Pretty sure it was the black ones that had recall, but not all of them

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