Mine now seems to always idle at 900rpm whereas previously it used to do that at cold then when warm at about 1100rpm. What's everyone else's do?

mine is the opposite - it would start high, then settle down low when its ready.

my previous cars (non skoda) did the same too.

has been like that from day 1.

TFSI here, cold start at around 1200 - 1300 then drops to 700 ish after a couple of minutes. All FI cars I have owned have followed a roughly similar pattern.

Starting low from cold then raising sounds very odd. Apart from my e reg metro (manual choke) all my cars have idled slightly higher when cold then dropped a little once warmed up (in fact you could argue the metro did too, except that it would only idle high whilst you had the choke pulled out)

Mine now seems to always idle at 900rpm whereas previously it used to do that at cold then when warm at about 1100rpm. What's everyone else's do?

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say you must be mis-remembering, what you've described is the exact opposite of what should be happening...

TFSI here again, but has always idled at ~1100 cold and ~800rpm when warm.

I'm going to stick my neck out here and say you must be mis-remembering, what you've described is the exact opposite of what should be happening...

TFSI here again, but has always idled at ~1100 cold and ~800rpm when warm.

I think you might be right mate now thinking about it! I think having the torque arm insert makes the low rev vibrations at standstill more noticeable!

Wonder why mine doesn't start high then!

I think you might be right mate now thinking about it! I think having the torque arm insert makes the low rev vibrations at standstill more noticeable!

Wonder why mine doesn't start high then!

Must be the remap....

I think you might be right mate now thinking about it! I think having the torque arm insert makes the low rev vibrations at standstill more noticeable!

Wonder why mine doesn't start high then!

Maybe the ambient temp is high enough at the moment for it not to really need to?

Maybe the ambient temp is high enough at the moment for it not to really need to?

I know it's been a cold summer, but even in the good years it's never that high!

It's probably always been the same and I have not noticed! Thinking about it I am sure now it used to start higher or maybe i am thinking of my tfsi!

Hey Jonno, my vrs starts at about 1100 before dropping down to 800, I hope that helps, not sure whats wrong, boost leak perhaps or a pipe loose somewhere?

Not sure if the vRS is any different mate but the Golf GTI 2.0 TSI engine code CCZB idle specification is anywhere between 640 and 800 rpm.

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Hey Jonno, my vrs starts at about 1100 before dropping down to 800, I hope that helps, not sure whats wrong, boost leak perhaps or a pipe loose somewhere?

Don't think anything's wrong, it just seems to idle from cold at the same revs as when warm and doesn't rev a little higher when cold. It's running as well as ever infact only yesterday did I spoil the day of a BMW 335i driver!

I think i am going mad, started it up this morning and it idled at 1000rpm and then shortly after dropped to 900. All very normal!

Don't think anything's wrong, it just seems to idle from cold at the same revs as when warm and doesn't rev a little higher when cold. It's running as well as ever infact only yesterday did I spoil the day of a BMW 335i driver!

He clearly wasn't trying then

He clearly wasn't trying then

I meant it couldn't pull away from me. Trust me he was seriously trying and seriously gutted. 335i is about 190bhp per ton depending on what you read and stage 1 vRS is also about 190bhp per ton i reckon based on it being circa 265bhp. The stage 1 vRS actually has more torque i think too but could be wrong! Could of been 335d though which is about 180bhp per ton I think.

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I have a TFSI, but if you don't mention whether air con is on (or "economy" is off), it's fairly irrelevant as it will increase the idling speed by up 100-200rpm. I normally have economy switched on - hasn't been warm enough and the windows don't seem to steam up - and idling speed when the engine is warm is around 750-800rpm.

I meant it couldn't pull away from me. Trust me he was seriously trying and seriously gutted. 335i is about 190bhp per ton depending on what you read and stage 1 vRS is also about 190bhp per ton i reckon based on it being circa 265bhp. The stage 1 vRS actually has more torque i think too but could be wrong! Could of been 335d though which is about 180bhp per ton I think.

now you're talking. I am mid way through compiling a chart to compare bhp/tonne and torque/tonne of a cars I have owned, and cars I think mine is now as quick as. I had mine dyno'd on Monday in Mansfield and despite a leak somewhere which I gave up trying to hunt out we managed "only" 235bhp, which is 172 bhp/tonne, but torque is up to 297lb/ft = 403Nm = 295Nm/tonne or 217lb/ft / tonne. If you look in the back of Evo mag, they list all of the relevant cars bhp/tonne figures so it's a starting point.....

a 335d would eat you for breakfast, as would a heavier 535d unless your drinking magic potion of course

EDIT

Evo data

335i M sport 200 bhp/t

Your vrs (@265bhp) 194 bhp/t (assuming 1.365t for the pre FL GVW)

335d which is 286bhp but 1.655t = 173 / tonne

I guess the crux is whether yours is really making 265 bhp (Revo claims and all that), as both versions are quick. The 330d is fast enough, i doubt i would leave one behind easily....

I know from my experience a Honda civic type R is fairly easy to drop at 166 bhp/tonne, but since the characteristics of the two cars is polar opposite I suspect on a track it would be different, though depends on which track!

If nothing else, the crude data is just that.

now you're talking. I am mid way through compiling a chart to compare bhp/tonne and torque/tonne of a cars I have owned, and cars I think mine is now as quick as. I had mine dyno'd on Monday in Mansfield and despite a leak somewhere which I gave up trying to hunt out we managed "only" 235bhp, which is 172 bhp/tonne, but torque is up to 297lb/ft = 403Nm = 295Nm/tonne or 217lb/ft / tonne. If you look in the back of Evo mag, they list all of the relevant cars bhp/tonne figures so it's a starting point.....

a 335d would eat you for breakfast, as would a heavier 535d unless your drinking magic potion of course

EDIT

Evo data

335i M sport 200 bhp/t

Your vrs (@265bhp) 194 bhp/t (assuming 1.365t for the pre FL GVW)

335d which is 286bhp but 1.655t = 173 / tonne

I guess the crux is whether yours is really making 265 bhp (Revo claims and all that), as both versions are quick. The 330d is fast enough, i doubt i would leave one behind easily....

I know from my experience a Honda civic type R is fairly easy to drop at 166 bhp/tonne, but since the characteristics of the two cars is polar opposite I suspect on a track it would be different, though depends on which track!

If nothing else, the crude data is just that.

You're right, it is just crude data and doesn't tell the whole story. These are just peak figures and it's the areas under the power and torque curves that are equally important.

It's always an interesting discussion and I am often surprised with what mine keeps up with in the real world.

I would expect the 335i to be a bit quicker than the 335d incidentally looking at the figures so not sure I agree that one would eat me for breakfast unless from a standing start.

265bhp wasn't a Revo claim it is a guess on my part, probably a bit high and probably it's probably nearer the 260bhp mark given the experiences of others. Hope to get it on the dyno soon. Revo state 275bhp which is just silly!

Don't forget acceleration figures wiil look worse for a diesel that has similar torque/weight figures, as there are nore frequent gear changes because of the lower rev limit. 0-60 is meaningless today, 0-100 a bit more interesting, but the best way is a g sensor, probably an app for it somewhere! At low speeds torque is what counts, as speed rises, then the power output of the engine becomes more significant as you have to do work just to overcome drag.