I've been side-tracked from my new car hunt by a second hand manual VRS that I saw up for sale.

It's 2008 year, estate, 2.0tdi, 6 speed manual.

What engine code would this car be expected to have, would it be fitted with a DPF?

Were the VRS geared lower than other tdi Octavias? How is their fuel consumption?

Lastly, what is the worst thing that could go wrong with such a car and what would it cost to fix?

A 2008 could be either a CR or a PD, not sure of the respective engine codes. Both have dpf.

Common problems on the PD include the dpf and injector failure; others will ellaborate I am sure.

Personally if you are looking for one that age I would stretch to the later CR. The power delivery is linear and more petrol like unlike the PD where you get a big surge of torque low down then nothing. Some people prefer this though.

Thanks. I have driven the 2 litre CR tdi's in other cars, but not a PD. What is the worst case cost for injector failure? Can the ECU's on these be remapped without ripping the whole thing out and using the BDM (back door method)?

Engine code on the PD's BMN, im not sure if its the same for the CR's

Tbh the PD's and CR's are not a million miles apart, just the CR is more up to date and little be more eco friendly.

I wouldt say the DPF's are the most common thing to fail, obviously all depends on what mileage your looking at as some say that the DPF struggles to live past 80k. The DMF (duel mass flywheel) is in my opinion the big worry, these are expensive to replace and annoyingly common for failure on the VAG diesels.

Injector failure once again i dont see this as a big threat, i wouldt be buying the car if the owner has not bothered to have the recall and if the new ones fail then they will be covered by the parts warranty.

Have a look on www.honestjohn.co.uk for the Octavia review, theres plently things to go wrong but you have to think how common they are.

Gear ratio's in my opinion are higher then all the other vag diesels have i driven, not by much though. Fuel consumption, depends entirely on how you drive and where you drive, these cars love to cruise. Mine is a work horse regrettably (lots of stop start urban driving) but still manages 41mpg without going to extremes on eco driving, long motorway run should easy return 48+mpg

Edited 7 August, 201213 yr by Ema_jane

Thanks. I have driven the 2 litre CR tdi's in other cars, but not a PD. What is the worst case cost for injector failure? Can the ECU's on these be remapped without ripping the whole thing out and using the BDM (back door method)?

I've used the Back Door Method (BDM) a few times but let's focus on the cars. You should be able to remap a PD and early CRs via the ODB port but later CRs will be an ECU out job I believe.

I defer to Ema above on the other stuff as she actually owns one.

Regarding mpg I managed 37mpg in my old CR but it was remapped and I drove it hard. There might of been something wrong with it as others get 45+. I have seen it recently at the car park at my gym so will speak to new owner soon enough and see if it was just me. Incidentally I now get 29mpg out of a remapped.tsi vRS.

The big decision to make is:

1. Hold out until the first 4wd Octy 3's are out and jump straight into an early production one (risking all the teething problems).

2. Buy something like this that'll fill a gap for 2 years or so and look into Octy 3's when they are more of a known quantity.

Decisions, decisions.

With 185,000km on the clock if the clutch and flywheel hasn't been done, it'll likely need done by the next owner. DPF issues can be dealt with via saw, welder and remap, but there are no remappers I would trust in my country. I would have to read the files and email to a tuner in the UK.

Given I have two project vehicles already, I am looking for a dead reliable third vehicle that will suck up a minimum of my spare time. This one might not be it.

CR. The power delivery is linear and more petrol like unlike the PD where you get a big surge of torque low down then nothing. Some people prefer this though.

Sorry to hijack the thread....quick question...

I have a 57 plate pd vrs and thinking about a dpf removal and stage 1 remap, will it drive like a cr after a remap or will that big ' surge ' disappear ?

The dpf has been well behaved over the last 2 years ( only sensor ) I'm just interested in the extra mpgs and better driveabilty....

and not forgetting about all those extra horses under the bonnet....

Edited 7 August, 201213 yr by studmuffin

Sorry to hijack the thread....quick question...

I have a 57 place pd vrs and thinking about a dpf removal and stage 1 remap, will it drive like a cr after a remap or will that big ' surge ' disappear ?

The dpf has been well behaved over the last 2 years ( only sensor ) I'm just interested in the extra mpgs and better driveabilty....

and not forgetting about all those extra horses under the bonnet....

It really depends on what remap you go for. I understand from people who have had remaps on the PD that it makes the power delivery more linear whilst retaining some of that initial surge but it's less noticeable. Others can better comment here.

It really depends on what remap you go for. I understand from people who have had remaps on the PD that it makes the power delivery more linear whilst retaining some of that initial surge but it's less noticeable. Others can better comment here.

Thanks,

never driven a cr so can't compare. Don't know whether to have it done when I have the pennies or wait until it gives me problems...

Thanks,

never driven a cr so can't compare. Don't know whether to have it done when I have the pennies or wait until it gives me problems...

Just do it and maximise your investment by driving it remapped as soon as you can afford to get it done. You will wonder why you waited so long once you've had it done.