I got a month before mine came on - but that was 3000 miles...

George,

It's all well and good saying we should check our own oil level after having a service but at the end of the day we are paying top dollar for this such service...

I know of mechanics who can do and do do this properly...

I don't understand why you seem to be pushing the ownness of checking the oil immediately after the service back onto the owner of the vehicle? We drive the car but the mechanics are the ones who have been trained to maintain them? I'm not saying they all get it 100% correct all of the time but I really can't see that many getting it that wrong that people believe they have a consumption issue...

Just as a side note (and this is without technical data to hand), could it be that with the difference in temps across the European market and the potential effects on the oil be the reason for warm checking?

I.e. the temp in south France is consistently higher than the UK does that 5-10 degrees have a bearing on the resting density of oil?

There would definately be differences with uk and south of France temps, however if as you said evil the right quantity is put in by the techs at dealers shouldn't be that much of an issue,engine full of oil is an engine full of oil, there are too many of these cars with this issue and they still eep on coming

I expect some usage when running in (first 10-20k?) and also because its a (heavily) forced induction unit, you tend to get higher oil consumption anyway so I'm not overtly worried in my case. When there's only 3.5 litres though, it becomes more noticeable in terms of dipstick levels - plus the shape of the sump can make a great difference as well.

When topping up last night, I've switched to some oil supplied by the dealer when I had my Scirocco and whilst still Castrol 5W30, its brown rather than the green stuff which came in the pretty bag. Will take a pic tonight...

Is that right that when the low level light comes on, its used 1.5 litres???

More or less yes. I can tell you for sure that from Oil Light to Max I've put around 1.5 lt in, on two different occasions so that's probably it.

But as I said, given the technical characteristics of the engine and the officially quoted figures for expected consumption I am not worried with 200-300 ml / 1000 KM. I also voted as "not having high oil consumption" in Sharkrider's poll a few months ago but that doesn't mean I have 0.

Edited 5 September, 201213 yr by newbie69

Evil Miyagi, since you asked.

?? Why would you expect someone to check the oil level after its had a service??

If you trust the Professional to get it right, then you might be interested to see where the Oil level is on the Dip Stick when they do it, so that you would do the same & know what the correct level on the stick looks like.

(That is if they do it right!)

& Because you are on a forum with a car thats known to have possible high usage problems!

Because its normal that any one that likes spirited driving to know their tyre pressures and oil fluid levels.

Because anyone that talks about changing Traction settings and up rated spark plugs etc would normally be interested in the basics of a car.

Anyone modifying cars and tuning and adding performance parts and thinking of getting more performance from a car might think on being sure that it runs correctly first and is reliable.

When you have had a major incident with a call out of Skoda Assist it might be usual to check the oil level.

If you know a car might be using oil its odd to go 2 weeks or 1000,s of miles without knowing if the car has enough oil.

Thats really the type of thing i think that would have anyone checking their oil level.

george

My vRS has just had its first 10,000 mile service. After driving the car home I checked the oil level (oil temperature at 90 degrees C when stopped). Oil was over the hatched area on the dip stick and up to the orange plastic. I supplied my own oil for the service (4 litres of Castrol Edge) as I didn't wan't it filled with Quantum. There was less than 200ml left in the container that they gave me back. Therefore they had overfilled. When I originally collected the car from new (different dealer) the oil was half way up the orange marker on the dip stick when hot.

The engine consumed 7 litres of oil over the first 9,000 miles.

The engine consumed 7 litres of oil over the first 9,000 miles.

~ 480ml/1000 km then, still considered "expected" according to the manual.

Have just spoken to Skoda UK customer relations about my oil consumption since I'm interested in the new 'fix' that has recently been enounced. They consider 7 litres of oil over 9,000 miles to warrant further investigation and have arranged to book me in for a consumption test where weight of oil fill will be measured before and after driving a set mileage. They won't give me any details about the new fix since it is apparently confidential but it does appear to be related to the oil breather/separator. However, I am told that they could still decide that piston rings need to be replaced with or without the new modification if my oil consumption is over a certain amount. I won't be able to pick and choose the fix. I would be very reluctant to have the engine opened up for piston ring replacement. Skoda are willing to refund my oil costs if I can produce receipts.

Very, very interesting (sounds of everyone looking for receipts....)

Litre of oil is £16 castrol edge x 7 = £112 on top of the cost of fuel and this I agree is within the tolerance in the manual, some vrs owners are using even more than this, if potential buyers knew this before purchasing the car would they have bought it? It's ludicrous to expect owners to fork out all this money on a car and be expected to not only put fuel in but top the engine up so often, I understand it's in tolerance but even so, how many people where told when buying the fabia vrs,polo gti or the seat " yeah it's a great little car this although you need a oil tanker in the back garden cos its thirsty on the old black gold" or anything similar to these words, don't get me wrong I would like a vrs but the better half wouldn't let me have one , one other thing does the Octavia vrs use any ol ? Hopefully the oil usage will go down eventually,

Look on the bright side - its not a Mazda RX-8...

Octavia vRS is a different engine. On the other hand, I had a Scirocco 1.4 twincharger for over 70,000 miles and only had to top it up once (at about 15k) in all that time.

Have just spoken to Skoda UK customer relations about my oil consumption since I'm interested in the new 'fix' that has recently been enounced.

Any additional info on this "new fix"? topic links etc?

Judging from their reply it sounds like a hit 'n' miss situation. (We may do or don't do this or that, very few words from Skoda etc.) I think I'll wait 1-2 years until they have finalized any "fix" they are thinking of appying regarding oil consumption and then drop a visit before my warranty is over. Up to this point, certain people have been through so much trouble and bureaucracy and haven't even solved their problem in several cases only because there isn't yet an official solution to the problem and it's up to the dealer's sensitivity.

Edited 5 September, 201213 yr by newbie69

Just seen a fix for the vrs not for a while yet tho :( VAG are dropping the 1.4 tsi engine 2013 for the 1.6 turbo, so good news

I'll be checking my oil on the way home ready for Castle Combe. Only place by me that's flat is Tesco so that will have to do. I have noticed oil temps to be fairly low since the service and I don't think I've seen over 90 any way. I don't check the temp that often, normally after a blast but it's been fine.

Litre of oil is £16 castrol edge x 7 = £112 on top of the cost of fuel and this I agree is within the tolerance in the manual, some vrs owners are using even more than this, if potential buyers knew this before purchasing the car would they have bought it? It's ludicrous to expect owners to fork out all this money on a car and be expected to not only put fuel in but top the engine up so often, I understand it's in tolerance but even so, how many people where told when buying the fabia vrs,polo gti or the seat " yeah it's a great little car this although you need a oil tanker in the back garden cos its thirsty on the old black gold" or anything similar to these words, don't get me wrong I would like a vrs but the better half wouldn't let me have one , one other thing does the Octavia vrs use any ol ? Hopefully the oil usage will go down eventually,

I think that's exaggerating Seb. If we are still talking about the same figures (up to 500ml/1000 KM) then it really is not that big a deal imho, and yes I wouldn't have been put off buying the car If I knew it. (I actually did know it and went on).

Also a litre of Castrol Edge 5w-30 actually costs half the price you quoted, I doubt anybody would buy oil in 100ml bottles would he ? http://www.opieoils....engine-oil.aspx

So all in all, an extra £40 cost every 8000 km, which for some is even the annual mileage, isn't that much if we want to be honest. Sorry If I sound harsh to some but the thing is, apart from very few exceptions with ridiculous consumption, most people that complain about this here and in other forums just don't want to spend an extra penny other than what they paid for the car, even If that costs as low as half a fuel-tank per year.

Edited 5 September, 201213 yr by newbie69

Just seen a fix for the vrs not for a while yet tho :( VAG are dropping the 1.4 tsi engine 2013 for the 1.6 turbo, so good news

Not sure about that. The 1.4tsi in a lower state of tune will be used in the Golf Mk7 with cylinder deactivation tech

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/new-2013-vw-golf-mk-revealed/263797

So all in all, an extra £40 cost every 8000 km, which for some is even the annual mileage, isn't that much if we want to be honest.

I've thought this too. It's barely an extra tank of fuel

Not sure about that. The 1.4tsi in a lower state of tune will be used in the Golf Mk7 with cylinder deactivation tech

http://www.whatcar.c...revealed/263797

...or is that a beefed up non-supercharged version (i.e. the current VAG 122PS unit)?

I've thought this too. It's barely an extra tank of fuel

Lol, you got me, I edited the message right away as it was the first thing that came to my mind as well. Actually ridiculous If you want my opinion but hey, I am not in everyone's pocket. It's almost similar to the ron 95 vs 98 debate and people refusing to pay an extra 0.05 per litre...

re dropping the 1.4 tsi engine.

I read that about the new Golf, The new Audi engines are announced & wonder about the new Seat and what engine they will get.

No word yet on Discontinuing the 178bhp engine in the vRS or Polo GTi, Audi A1, as far as i know,

* Does someone know something else, for certain ?*

Re ,

Acceptable Engine oil usage.

I have said before, If that Oil was required & Petrol, VAG are cheating on Emissions figures.

Every 1000km (600 miles) 16 gallons of petrol & 1/2 a litre of Fully Synthetic oil still required for ever,after covering the first 5000 km.

They would be a laughing stock, as it is they are now i think.

They need to start paying for peoples Oil.

No use giving 3 years Skoda Assist, or people can just start calling up the Skoda Assist and they can send out the RAC man with the next Oil infusion.

george

Agree with you most people would buy it anyways, however the issue ain't just the oil usage, it's what is causing it really, most of it is down to " that's what it uses " however a great deal is a build or mechanical issue, most people would just pop to halfords or similar and purchase a litre @ 16 rather than £40 for big carton, I agree that most would have known but not all about the oil issues, I wouldn't have bought one knowing it's thirsty on oil but I'm a skin flint anyway, It does look as if they generally use less the more miles you put on them, it's the lack of direction skoda that's an issue, it's the oil breather pipe , it's the spark plugs or some other reason I hope they sort it quick as its not good pr

Not sure about that. The 1.4tsi in a lower state of tune will be used in the Golf Mk7 with cylinder deactivation tech

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/new-2013-vw-golf-mk-revealed/263797

The technologically advanced (but expensive to make) 158bhp 1.4-litre TwinCharger engine, endowed with both a turbocharger and supercharger, has been dropped. However, word on the rumour mill suggests that VW could bring a turbocharged 1.8-litre engine to the new Golf line-up with a rumoured 178bhp, which would bridge the gap to the more performance-orientated models in the Golf range. 

Well tell you what, If my car continues to consume as much as 200-300ml/1000 km as it's done up to now, I really don't care and I really wouldn't bother taking a 40 euro receipt to the dealer every 6 months during which I normally cover 6-8000 km. I could also sleep in peace If I never found out what's causing it.

Put another way, I normally drink two espresso's per day. That 4lt bottle of Castrol Edge equals the money I would save If on Fridays I decided I should have only one instead of two. I don't think I need to go on. If these 40 euros / 6 months were that crucial for my budget (while I am far from a millionaire) I (and most people today) could think of a thousand other useless expenses we do every month that we could stop or reduce.

The new Audi A3 engines are going less power & lighter cars supposedly.

VAG make up their own figures & generally lie about weights and emissions to suit the Customers,

Audi, VW, Seat, Skoda.

I still would like to know why the Polo & A1 have lower Road Tax/emissions, wider tyres, same engine, shown as lighter kerb weight,

shown as using less fuel than the vRS Hatch.

& the vRS gets 25kg stuck on the rear crash bar.

Is that because Audi & VW customers do not want the Cheaper car out performing their Expensive vehicle?

(on paper or actually!)

Or VAG do not think it would look good when it is picked up on if anyone buying an Audi or VW,

which i dont think they care really, they are not looking at buying a Skoda or even the SEAT when it was available.

Different buyers in a different market mostly.

george