Ah in that case then, i think this debate is down to the good old blinkered brand snobbery! Rearing its ugly head again! Those who cant see past the £800 they spent in case us lot start having fun with our cheap stuff,,,,,, It shall not be allowed - you are not allowed cheap coilies and to be pleased with them

Edited 31 October, 201213 yr by Lofty79

Ah in that case then, i think this debate is down to the good old blinkered brand snobbery! Rearing its ugly head again! Those who cant see past the £800 they spent in case us lot start having fun with our cheap stuff,,,,,, It shall not be allowed - you are not allowed cheap coilies and to be pleased with them

its not that dude, there is a real difference between 200 coilovers and 800 coilovers, trust me!its down to peoples perception, expectations, and of course how bad their suspension was to start with.

Well i've just bought some pro sport coilovers for my vRS (they do a set specific for the vRS/cupra R and audi tt 8n iirc), apparently the springs rates of them are: 1175kg and 1230kg, which if true is a fair bit stiffer than the weitec's which is ideal for me, as I am intending to do some trackdays with the vRS in the not to distant future

I don't think for daily driving they will be too harsh for me (I hope), but I do hope there not mega bouncy although I like my cars to sit low, I don't like them to scrape the floor as they do it, so I won't be winding them to the bottom and then raising the car until it moves lol.

Edited 31 October, 201213 yr by Cossie1

I know im just messing, i would expect an appreciable difference. However its the ones that say they are crap awful and a POS, which they are not! If they said Joms arent as good as my weitecs - ding ding ding correct! Those with brand snobbery refuse to accept that joms are good in ANY sense, whereas in reality, the truth is yes more expensive is better!

£165 to suspend over a ton of vehicle, and dampen the bumps too? Thats Bluddy good imho and with 2 years warranty aswell!

£800 to do the same job......... alot lot better? Yes if you want that,

Let me illustrate: a vw polo tdi, lets say for arguments sake £11,000........ Then we have a mercedes SLK Black again arguments sake (i havent time to check) £80,000.

Just because of the existence of the mercedes, does that make the polo a crap POS??????? Absolutely not! it comes down to money, if you can only afford a polo, its a great car!!!!!!! If you can afford the merc - expect it to be better in many ways! Do we now downgrade the polos position?

Having owned an SLK for 9 years since new (back in 2001), I would say the Merc was the POS. And it was just short of £30K, for a 230SLK. On topic, handling was nice though.

Racelands fitted to mine since March time and no complaints. After a sneaky drunken bid on ebay I got them for less then £150 delivered

Try the joms if you dont like them sell them thats what i did and only lost £15 but as others have said its preference to what and how you like your car to sit drive etc

problem is i find you get what you paid for on these budget items

I've had a few different sets... best set I've had were FK AK's - went very low, and were still comfy, very cheap too. Worst set was some Weitech's... horrible bouncy ride!

I've had a few different sets... best set I've had were FK AK's - went very low, and were still comfy, very cheap too. Worst set was some Weitech's... horrible bouncy ride!

did you run uber low babs?did you cut down the bump stops?

is it worth cutting the bump stops on the pro sport/jom kit? They dont seem that big in the first place on the front

is it worth cutting the bump stops on the pro sport/jom kit? They dont seem that big in the first place on the front

You know that the Pro Sport coilovers are not the same as JOM don't you ?

Pro Sport are the new name for Jamex (not that it matters, just thought i'd mention it).

My Pro Sports arrived this morning, look lovely and shiney lol

is it worth cutting the bump stops on the pro sport/jom kit? They dont seem that big in the first place on the front

do you mean the kit has bumpstops (which should be shortened if they are included) or the stock ones, which should be cut down, or replaced for shorter items?

is it worth cutting the bump stops on the pro sport/jom kit? They dont seem that big in the first place on the front

I'll be honest.

Anyone cutting their bump stops who stack it and have to go through insurance naturally run the risk of forfeiting their claim, under the 'unsafe modification' category. Not only that but if it becomes a police matter and they see it... Could also put you squarely in the "i'm shafted" category.

Bump stops are progressive foam which progressively gets harder the further along the bumpstop compresses, and loads up as you're cornering or hitting bumps. If you cut your bump stops down, you're effectively making that weight transfer when you do hit your bumpstops very abrupt (i.e. you'll hit the harder parts of the bumpstop) which can result in some NASTY snap oversteer... Which if an investigator sees it can mean even more bad news.

Bottom line? Don't do it. Buy/find uprated shorter bump stops and if you can't? Then maybe you shouldn't be lowering to the point where you're riding bump stops in the first place.

Just my two penneth on it. Uprated suspension isn't designed to ride on bump stops and once you start cutting you're making your suspension a very unknown quality.

seems to make sense, im happy anyway...............ill just leave it

I'll be honest.

Anyone cutting their bump stops who stack it and have to go through insurance naturally run the risk of forfeiting their claim, under the 'unsafe modification' category. Not only that but if it becomes a police matter and they see it... Could also put you squarely in the "i'm shafted" category.

Bump stops are progressive foam which progressively gets harder the further along the bumpstop compresses, and loads up as you're cornering or hitting bumps. If you cut your bump stops down, you're effectively making that weight transfer when you do hit your bumpstops very abrupt (i.e. you'll hit the harder parts of the bumpstop) which can result in some NASTY snap oversteer... Which if an investigator sees it can mean even more bad news.

Bottom line? Don't do it. Buy/find uprated shorter bump stops and if you can't? Then maybe you shouldn't be lowering to the point where you're riding bump stops in the first place.

Just my two penneth on it. Uprated suspension isn't designed to ride on bump stops and once you start cutting you're making your suspension a very unknown quality.

I have had poly bump stop bushes before, they were a lot smaller than the normal items and not rubber, so you can get items to replace the large oe bump stops.You mention about hitting bump stops under cornering and causing issues with cut down bump stops, the same can be said from running a low car with stock bumpstops as the suspension will not get the chance to work as it should. It will not run properly sitting on them all the time, and over time they will disintigrate leaving no bump stop at all as the rubber just persihes. Seen that several times on suspension i have changed.imo if you are hitting your bumpstops all the time you are too low anyway!

I have had poly bump stop bushes before, they were a lot smaller than the normal items and not rubber, so you can get items to replace the large oe bump stops.You mention about hitting bump stops under cornering and causing issues with cut down bump stops, the same can be said from running a low car with stock bumpstops as the suspension will not get the chance to work as it should. It will not run properly sitting on them all the time, and over time they will disintigrate leaving no bump stop at all as the rubber just persihes. Seen that several times on suspension i have changed.imo if you are hitting your bumpstops all the time you are too low anyway!

Agreed!

If you know you're riding your bumpstops then it's your responsibility to get them checked and replaced. There are other options out there it's just a case of looking.

Either that, or don't run so low heh.