just got a vrs 170 cr with a tuning box to fit if required.there was no fitting instructions with though.

there is a tuning guide but dont know which programme to use.

can anyone help.

1. Take tuning box

2. Throw in dustbin

3. Get a proper remap

Im fed up of people saying that! If he wanted a remap he would get one!

Im buying a tdi tuning box next week, i have been emailing them all week, and i am very impressed with what has been said!

Sorry i dont no how to help to fit, go to there website there is a video!

People say it for a reason.

Yeh and thousands sell every year for a reason

Yes because the world is full of clueless idiots.

HAHA!

I bow down to your overwhelming knowledge Master Keyboard Hero

I've had 'chips' on 3 Passat's and have found them excellent. My son chipped an Ibiza and a Passat, again excellent results. All diesels. My son has since had a remap on a T5 transporter. Good but not as impressive and without the fuel economy improvement seen on all the others so lots of practical experience to support tuning chips.

I acknowledge that there are good and bad 'chips' but from what I read here there are good and bad remaps so don't write chips off unless you have some overwhelming evidence to back it up.

Incidentally, I'm currently looking for a chip for my Superb 2 140 as it's a bit short on torque and the consumption is poor compared to my previous 'chipped' 130 Passat. Any recommendations? I note some chip suppliers offer a refund if you're not happy. Do the re-mappers do this?

Festive greetings to all,

Mike

I've had 'chips' on 3 Passat's and have found them excellent. My son chipped an Ibiza and a Passat, again excellent results. All diesels. My son has since had a remap on a T5 transporter. Good but not as impressive and without the fuel economy improvement seen on all the others so lots of practical experience to support tuning chips.

I acknowledge that there are good and bad 'chips' but from what I read here there are good and bad remaps so don't write chips off unless you have some overwhelming evidence to back it up.

Incidentally, I'm currently looking for a chip for my Superb 2 140 as it's a bit short on torque and the consumption is poor compared to my previous 'chipped' 130 Passat. Any recommendations? I note some chip suppliers offer a refund if you're not happy. Do the re-mappers do this?

Festive greetings to all,

Mike

There is a big difference between Chipping a car and fitting a Tuning box and same with a remp.

If you Chip a car then you are fitting a new chip in the ECU.

A tuning box usually plugs and the cheap ones just fool the car into feeding more fuel in.

And dont forget different engines dont aways react the same.

Edited 4 January, 201313 yr by ruffday

A chip and a remap are the same thing.

Their is a EEPROM chip on the ecu which stores the engine maps. In the old days the only way to alter these maps was to remove the EEPROM and read/write to it using an external programmer. Then came ODB. Depending on the type if EEPROM we are now able to read/write the EEPROM via the OBD port. No more need to remove the EEPROM unless you brick it. Then came BDM etc

The tuning box on this if dtuk will work wonders and if crusing on motorway looking at 70mpg

The commonrail "tuning boxes" in their most hideous form simply fool the ECU into thinking the common rail fuel pressure is low. So it cranks up the pressure.

This makes it spray more fuel, earlier. It also completely over-rides ECU control of fuelling and throws the fuel computer right out of whack.

So the "impressive" fuel economy of a "tuning box" is 95% due to the now incorrect dash readout.

There are far smarter tuning boxes, which work almost like piggy-back computers and plug into as many places as they can (MAF, MAP, Injectors, throttle etc). These are better, but still not as good as a remap. Some cars can't be remapped (many toyotas can't) and these tuning boxes are the only option.

Hi,

Can we stop this discussion about tuning boxes being better/ worse than remaps as it's not such a simple choice.

If you have a vag car with a 1.9, 2.0 or 3.0 tdi, or, 1.8t, 2.0/ 3.0 tfsi engine then yes a remap will be better than a tuning box because mappers have enough ecu knowledge.

If you have a car with a more obscure engine such as toyota/ lexus 2.2 diesel and others then a sophisticated tuning box such as dtuk and tunit will probably be better.

There are excellent tuning boxes out there such as mtm's device which monitors the fuel injected, fuel rail pressure and turbo boost pressure that almost mimic an excellent remap - I think dtuk have a similar device.

John

some overfuel and cause bore wash etc, others out there are good - fact

Buuut the good ones are pricey...............so much so that the remap is better usually as its done direct to ecu, not via second hand info units, no matter how complex.

DTUK setups are around £250 for a goodun, shark map??????? I personally would go remap as they are better, but a good tuning box is perfectly fine.

However that pd L shape piece of pish tuning box they crack out is an absolute sham and will cause a plethora of problems over a year

some overfuel and cause bore wash etc, others out there are good - fact

Buuut the good ones are pricey...............so much so that the remap is better usually as its done direct to ecu, not via second hand info units, no matter how complex.

DTUK setups are around £250 for a goodun, shark map??????? I personally would go remap as they are better, but a good tuning box is perfectly fine.

However that pd L shape piece of pish tuning box they crack out is an absolute sham and will cause a plethora of problems over a year

There are some cars it's simple impossible to get a remap for, forget about the quality, in these cases a good tuning box is the best you can get

I've had 'chips' on 3 Passat's and have found them excellent. My son chipped an Ibiza and a Passat, again excellent results. All diesels. My son has since had a remap on a T5 transporter. Good but not as impressive and without the fuel economy improvement seen on all the others so lots of practical experience to support tuning chips.

I acknowledge that there are good and bad 'chips' but from what I read here there are good and bad remaps so don't write chips off unless you have some overwhelming evidence to back it up.

Incidentally, I'm currently looking for a chip for my Superb 2 140 as it's a bit short on torque and the consumption is poor compared to my previous 'chipped' 130 Passat. Any recommendations? I note some chip suppliers offer a refund if you're not happy. Do the re-mappers do this?

Festive greetings to all,

Mike

I had a dragon digital box on my first vrs, was great, loved it and didn't cost me a penny, I sold it for what I bought it for. If yours is the same, then unplug the cable from your ecu too your engine, then simply plug this connection into one side of the box and then the other side of the box back into the place where you just disconnected the ecu cable from. Simple as that

The TDI-Tuning boxes are nothing more than a resistor in a box which they sell around the £100 mark. See the thread below

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/264986-dtuk-diesel-tuning-box/