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Dunflops of some sort. Probably the stock tyres

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Dunflops of some sort. Probably the stock tyres

That's what mine came with - do Dunlop actually make a decent tyre? Had Dunplops on two different cars and they're shocking in anything other than dry / warm conditions. They ain't cheap either!

Grapo,

re coming out of a roundabout & being in the wrong gear.

There are 7 gears there & i have no idea if any car you are used to driving has seven gears.

You are in 2nd by 10 mph

& it can be in 5th or 6th by 50mph even in 7th.

I doubt you will actually stay in too high a gear in 'D' if you just put your foot down.

You have the Super charger up to 2400 rpm at certain throttle positions, then Super & Turbo up to 3500 rpm then Turbo.

I would not look at the Gears on a Twin Charger with DSG in the same ways as the gears on a manual.

If you put the foot down in 'D' you will not be left behind by the other traffic or embarrassed by the lack of go,

(well as long as you do not have a loss of traction.)

it will not stay in a high gear for long when the throttle is used even in 'D'..

It should be perfectly easy to drive it as an automatic,

but a 7 speed auto will not act the same or be in the same gears as say a 4 or 5 speed manual or automatic.

george

One thing I find about the DSG in drive is that it is quite often has the tendancy not to provide the sort of go I expect of it for the throttle input its given; usually because its decided it can pull one gear higher than I like (usually happens when I expect 3rd and it stays in 4th, same with 4th and 5th). What is strange with the twincharger is that unless you're in the right gear the car really doesn't start it surge until its completely handed over to the turbo, in these instances its still quick but not savagely so like when performing full bore accelertion through the gears. D is very economy focused and at times can be frustrating. The delay when pulling away is also a frustration but you learn to counter after a while.

Manual mode with paddles is probably the best way to push the car along as it allows you to change gear before the power runs dry (6.2k).

S I'd only ever any good for full blown acceleration, sometmes use it to quickly overtake slow traffic though it will tend to rev to 7k in each gear allowing the car to become a little breathless at the top end of each gear. You can counter this by getting on the paddles but the car soon resumes S mode and chops about 2 gears.....generally it has its place for thrashing the thing but is very wearing if you're not in the mood.

Kickdown works welll unless you are travelling at low speeds, find that it tends to change down too many cogs putting you in one of the shorter first three gears and not giving the satisfying lick of ppace you get say in 4th from about 50-60mph.

I love the DSG, makes for a very easy to drive car and the standard paddles add a dimension to the driving experience that is novel on a car its size, also satisying being able to perform really quick upshifts at full bore throttle inputs though I am starting to feel it would be more immersive to drive with a nice shortly stacked 6 speed manual

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Agree with everything in the last post

Second that!

My biggest gripe with DSG it's finding it difficult to accelerate straight after heavy breaking, but this only happens in D. S is perfect but takes it to 7k rpm, which I find less than optimum for best acceleration. If you factor in 500 rpm needed to shift a gear up on max acceleration paddles work best, except roundabouts but then you have the stick do shift up or down if you want :). So choose the mode best suited for you driving mood and then it will reward you.

What my DSG learned from my driving style, and I think it is simply phenomenal, in D it stays in say 5th gear at relatively low speed and let's me use all that torque produced by combined charger and turbo to accelerate really well without shifting-just like I'd drive with manual box. Gotta love this tech!

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but why would you want to? if you were heavy braking surely you would be wanting to make progress, in which case, use the paddels! there is NOTHING better than blipping down with the left paddle assting braking into a corner (while still in a straight line) , keeping it between 5-7k, and having INTANT throttle response on the exit!!

trust me, learn the padles properly and you will be grinning like a lunatic ALL the time you want to press on.....

D is for cruising ;)

but why would you want to? if you were heavy braking surely you would be wanting to make progress, in which case, use the paddels! there is NOTHING better than blipping down with the left paddle assting braking into a corner (while still in a straight line) , keeping it between 5-7k, and having INTANT throttle response on the exit!!

trust me, learn the padles properly and you will be grinning like a lunatic ALL the time you want to press on.....

D is for cruising ;)

:rock: I agree so much... Paddles, paddles, paddles... (and/or stick). Nothing else will work better in any conditions other than stuck in city traffic, (actually, in that situation Manual mode will **** you off by dropping to 1st every time you need to slow down but don't want to stop, making you look like you just got your licence).

But that being excluded, manual mode will reward you more than D or S (each time for a different reason) whether it is a quick overtake you're after, a roundabout enter or a brake hard and blast-off situation...

How did you find fuel consumption between driving in manual (paddles and stick) and full "D" mode?

Obviously you use manual for performance and D fro cruising but you paddle junkies may be sticking with it at all times :)

Don't know about that as I have never ever driven from a Full to Empty tank using only D mode! :D Can't do it! I can't resist giving it a blast every time the road allows it. I find the 30-35 mpg I repeatedly achieve very satisfying given that I enjoy the car's power in almost every opportunity that comes along.

But even so, the paddles (or D mode) won't affect anywhere as much as the road conditions imho. One hour of city driving in D has always costed more than one hour of b-road driving even If I never shifted up before 4,5 - 5K. In fact, in weekends I often drive up a very steep, hill climb which If empty, is ideal to squeeze every last HP out of the engine. Even in these super fuel-hungry conditions, before I start the descent, the consumption has never been lower than 26 mpg.

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Well I thought my engine didn't use ANY oil. I checked yesterday and the oil was below the hash level. Topped up today and have used about 500ml in 3000 miles. Not nearly as bad as some, but it has still used oil. I presume Skoda had it at the right level when I collected the car.

Well I thought my engine didn't use ANY oil. I checked yesterday and the oil was below the hash level. Topped up today and have used about 500ml in 3000 miles. Not nearly as bad as some, but it has still used oil. I presume Skoda had it at the right level when I collected the car.

That's more than acceptable.

I believe we've moved to another era..I've had many cars in the past with negligible oil use,but now with turbo cars using thin oils I think some usage is almost the norm.

My previous Octy vRS,which I ran for 40k miles,consistently used 1 litre per 2000 miles but always ran perfectly.

I didn't consider it a problem at all.

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I don;t mind using a smallish amount of oil as long as the engine doesn't go pop!

I think its a trade-off personally - lower viscosity oils reduce losses in the engine, but are burnt easier. Simple fact - "back in the day", it was commonplace to put good-old 20W50 into an engine that was spec'd to use 10W40 (and burnt it); the thicker oil isn't burnt as readily. I reckon thats why mine almost stopped using any after a top-up of 5W40 instead of the normal 5W30...

My theory at the moment is such that those "thinner oils" are much more prone to being washed off the bore walls inducing oil consumption than the "thickier oils". When my 5-W30 Castrol Edge Professional Long Life III arrives I will do a test of sorts to see if this holds water. I have some Castrol 10-W60 racing oil in the garage, as thick as maple syrup lol, to compare with water-like Skoda recommended one for the 1.4 twincharger motors. I will also be dropping oil in my car ahead of service shedule at 4.7k miles and I will send it to have it tested at a lab to see exactly what is happening inside my car. If they find petrol there then my theories will be all vindicated, if not back to drawing board :). I just hope they won't find any chromium, iron or alu...

  • 1 month later...
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Well old greeny is being traded in on Friday (to Tunbridge Wells Skoda) to be replaced by a new Steel Grey Fabia VRS.

It has been a great car but I am looking forward to a slightly more aggressive (black pack and 20mm eibachs) VRS rather than the stick out like a sore thumb green one.

Hopefully the new one will be as reliable as this one has been.

Look forward to seeing it :)

Are you in t.wells much?

They sold my vRS in a week!!

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I'm over in tunbridge wells every couple of weeks with work, but not really about down there much.

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