re warm water or cold water getting poured on the windows to de-frost or de-ice

and ambient temps below freezing for days on end.

Not talking cold nights and warmer days!

'Nike'

ie 'Just do it'. is sometimes the best way to learn.

Start to see how your Parking Place looks after just a few days or pouring a Litre or 2 of Warm water on your car..

eg An Ice rink.

Or filled with little blocks and piles of frozen snow or ice.

It builds up quick suprisingly when never thawing.

After 2 weeks, or 3 weeks even it becomes not funny..

Maybe Open/remove the the Door Card

& maybe look at a couple of Pounds of Ice in the Door after a few days of pouring Warm Water on Side Windows

in temps below Freezing constantly.

Door Locks Freezing, window mechanisims freezing, blocks of ice in your Air Inlet.

Door Jams & Rubbers frozen.

-10 to even - 1&C in the Morning & 5 degrees *C by lunch time or the Pavement being split with the sun is rather different from

-6 C Night Time Ground Frost & -1 *C Daytime air frost for days and days.

Like i said.

Horses for Courses.

But Damp & Moist areas like the Seaside (Moray Firth) & Hoar Frost that can cover vehicles for days in inches of Ice/Frost

or in the Cairngorms might need different DE-Icing from say Liverpool or Kent, maybe Devon.

If deicing your vehicle is easy the way you do it and De-icer is not required or no use,

then thats great.

Theory is all good and well.

Happy Holidays.

george

I pinched the picture with 'Two Feet of Snow'.

Everyday can be a school day!

eg

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/259239-scratched-windows-on-vrs-2012

Why are you all messing about with scrapers, de-icer or a jug of warm water?

A fiver off eBay.

Pull it off and chuck it down the side of the house, drive off.

Guess I must have just chosen the wrong brands of deicer. Only -4C or so, the other day, but the warm water re-froze on the screen as soon as I set off.

As for a screen cover- I commute up to the High Peak of Derbyshire and would need to take it with me. Along with the snow shovel, wellies, spare coat etc etc.

Probably tried and rejected such a device 35 years ago due to icing being the least of my winter problems. Snow up to the door handles often occurred in Buxton in those days.

Will try hotter water next time. But hey it is now summery and +6C today. Almost suitable for summer tyres?

I use a spray type one in a squirty bottle and below -20 it works well, that said its the only one I have ever used that seems to work the label doesn't appear to have a distinctive brand on it just lots of tiny writing in a few languages but does genuinely work. The aerosol ones are a total joke giant cans and seem to last a good 3 or 4 seconds in my experience.

Why are you all messing about with scrapers, de-icer or a jug of warm water?

A fiver off eBay.

Pull it off and chuck it down the side of the house, drive off.

What if you live in a mid terrace house?

Post it through the letterbox!

Or chuck it in the boot.

I rarely use de-icer as it cools the inside of the screen and can freeze a missed up screen.

Never have any problems with using warm/hot water from hot tap. Once melted I use the wipers to was it away and to prevent refreezing. Currently there is a debate about this method in Fab I section. http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/258988-very-warm-water-to-defrost-windscreen/

I have just bought one of these. Best scraper I have ever owned.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/ICEPLANE-Twin-Bladed-Car-Scraper/dp/B005U3EK7G

Personally, I've used Auto Glym de-icer in conjunction with a plastic handled rubber blade used for cleaning windows for years and I've never had a problem with stubborn ice. I'm not employed by Auto-Glym or a retailer of their products by the way.

Cheers

Jonno

What if you live in a mid terrace house?

I would be able to sleep at night if I did!- I'd be curtain twitching 24/7 to see if anyone was within 10m of it :rofl: a garage is the obvious solution though most on my estate are full of cr*p and the cars sit outside, what's the point of that? I'd be off down the skip me when she was at work!

sign of the times I guess....

can we delete a post?

Edited 15 December, 201213 yr by peterhr

I use a scraper myself but for really thick hard ice have used a hot water bottle. The water stays in the bottle, just move the bottle about the window surface to get the ice to a stage where it scrapes off more easily. Haven’t had to do this since I got a garage - neighbours may doubt your sanity but it works (and keeps hands warm).

Years ago when I had a MK5 Escort which was very prone to freezing locks, the hot water bottle held against the lock often did the trick. – When it did not it was in through the hatch and hope the doors have defrosted by the time I got to work.

can we delete a post?

My mate did that with his Honda Civic 1.8 last week- costing him over £500 for a new front wing.......

If you can bear it and remember, let your screen accumulate a little road salt before parking up. I just mean don't wash/wipe it for the last five minutes of your icy journey. The thin film of salty grime will help prevent the next morning's ice from freezing hard.

Guys use warm water and as soon as you have poured it over the windscreen jump in the car and put the wipers on. There isn't any water on the screen to re- freeze then.

Simple.

Err no. Wipers spread the water thinly then it re freezes before it can be cleared properly on the second wipe.Will try hotter water next time.

Edited 17 December, 201213 yr by gregoir

Err no. Wipers spread the water thinly then it re freezes before it can be cleared properly on the second wipe.Will try hotter water next time.

In fifteen years of using warm water to clear frost I have never suffered this. Don't use hotter water, you need more volume of warm water, so the windscreen actually stays warm for a while.....2 litres should do it.

Err no. Wipers spread the water thinly then it re freezes before it can be cleared properly on the second wipe.Will try hotter water next time.

I have never had that problem,even when temperatures dropped to -20 two years ago.The water would re-freeze on the rear screen (which would then melt with the rear defroster on) but the front screen has always remained clear.

Regards,

Ivor.

Nice warm garage for me at home and at work. Don't think the Octy has experienced ice yet.

Being able to keep your car in a garage is a sign that you don't have enough motorbikes in your life

Jaytip,

were you pouring warm water on the car while the Air Temperature was still actually at 'Minus 20 Degrees Celsius' & it was not freezing?

george

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_2010-2011_in_Great_Britain_and_Ireland

I used the -20 statement to highlight the time when we had the really cold snap. The coldest I saw on my dashboard temp gauge was -16, but I had no problems with clearing the windscreen with the warm water meathod.

Probably not good advice.

I park on my driveway.

Long mains extension lead, fan heater wedged between front sets (pulls air in from back seat area, blows at screen) - 20 minutes, car is defrosted all around - sometimes the screen is steaming (it's wet and warm when very cold outside).

Car stays warm for about 5 miles - when the engine has warmed up enough to keep the glass clear - lovely

Been doing it for over 20 years.

Just remember to unplug before driving off, and don't set the car on fire, and do unwind the whole length of the extension lead so it doesn't cook under the load.

Probably not good advice.

I park on my driveway.

Long mains extension lead, fan heater wedged between front sets (pulls air in from back seat area, blows at screen) - 20 minutes, car is defrosted all around - sometimes the screen is steaming (it's wet and warm when very cold outside).

Car stays warm for about 5 miles - when the engine has warmed up enough to keep the glass clear - lovely

Been doing it for over 20 years.

Just remember to unplug before driving off, and don't set the car on fire, and do unwind the whole length of the extension lead so it doesn't cook under the load.

In other words, exactly like the heaters Scandinavians have been using in their cars for 40 years. Along with a heater on the engine, of course.

Edited 19 December, 201213 yr by Perc