I currently have a 55 plate vRS petrol manual, I like the car and have no complaints about it. However, in the last 16 or 17 days I have driven nearly 2100 miles, mainly motorways but a fair bit of to-ing and fro-ing in London and I've averaged a steady 37~39 mpg.

I was in the local skoda dealer this morning and they have one of the Blackline vRS's on the floor, I must admit it looks the part, especially in the black pearl paint with the alloys and leather, and it is the diesel manual. The PCP deal was at 242 a month for three years, which is not outside the possibilities of my limits.

I wonder whether I should go for it, since I'm not a big fan of front wheel drive or suckling from the black pump but the thought of a new car and all it entails is tempting, and I have not found another car from any make that offers the same bang for buck.

Any thoughts and suggestions welcome.

Ta

I've just brought a new cr vrs. It's really a pleasure to drive and definitely some of the best value for money that I could find.

However I only got just over 40mpg for the first tank( but the novelty hasn't warn off yet!)

my vrs is 2 years old really happy with performance local i get 43 mpg going to work 50 mpg and long run with wife son and 13 stone gresatdane in back going steady i can get 58mpg the only thing I still dont like is the dsg box give me a manual any day.

And as you say for money value you carnt beat it..........

The only option on mine is the xenons which after 2 years but mainly wife driving I have only just noticed on the bends the lights turn as well

,imd you at 4am in the morning off to work iam on auto pilot

37-39 mpg is pretty good. Lots of factors to consider, but sounds as though you fancy a new car!

You should consider a 2 - 3 yr old FL petrol vRS. There are some great deals out there due to the petrol not holding its value as well as the diesel.

You'll have more fun that way!

Most of my car history has had a sort of theme, celica GT4, skyline R33 GTR, mazda RX8, merc CLK320, the only 'sensible' cars i've owned have been a rover 216 gti that i started with and a bmw 330d, and i got rid of the beemer pretty quickly when i got fed up of the auto and the general manners of a diesel.

I changed the rx8 for the octi when i got my current job since I would be driving a lot more miles, and amongst the 8's plus points good fuel economy is not one. I've always avoided front wheel drive if I can, but now I'm getting older and more grown up, (possibly) I'm tempted to live with the octi.

I must admit the appeal of a brand new car with single figure mileage is very tempting. Oh god, just realised I'm turning into my dad! And that blackline keeps calling, but there is a little whisper at the back of my mind about the new vRS. Especially if the rumours are true about the 4WD, although I think it will be out of my price range for a while.

I currently have a 55 plate vRS petrol manual... ...and I've averaged a steady 37~39 mpg.

Are you sure you don't already have a diesel!?

Are you sure you don't already have a diesel!?

yep, very sure. what do you get from your vRS?

On a run I get 34 mpg out of my 3.7 litre 260BHP Audi which weighs just short of 2 tonnes, so I don't see any reason why 40MPG from a 2 litre 2.0TFSI is unachievable.

On a run I get 34 mpg out of my 3.7 litre 260BHP Audi which weighs just short of 2 tonnes, so I don't see any reason why 40MPG from a 2 litre 2.0TFSI is unachievable.

if it wasn't for the faffing about in towns at each end i make a comfy 41 on the motorways. Checked that last weekend on the run down the M1

Getting the sort of mpg you do from your car you don't seem like the stereotype vRS petrol owner! Give one a test drive and see what you think. The CR engine will do what most people want most if not all of the time with smiles to match until you fill it up when you'll always be more happy than if you were doing the same with a petrol doing the same miles. ultimately the TFSI will out perform it at the max which may be important to some but I'm very pleased with mine and have been getting 48mpg average on the maxidot since I've had it

Only getting low 20s from my tfsi but most of that is around town, on a run I still only get 27!!!

yep, very sure. what do you get from your vRS?

I average 48mpg but from the last few fill-ups I've only managed 43mpg which isn't far off your petrol.

Edited 7 March, 201313 yr by silver1011

I have a 2.0 TSI & regularly achieve between 35-40mpg, so go for the late plate petrol its great fun & the lower input of cash offsets an awful lot of diesel!!! Unlike a lot of petrol turbos it can achieve good fuel figures if driven "normally", giving you the option of economy or that bit more performance from the petrol.

Go for it, you will save 100 a month in fuel!

I get about 30-33mpg normal driving

On a good 400 mile motorway run I can get an easy 43mpg doing 75-80mph, done that a fair few times, Brum to Carlisle 420miles return journey = £65 in fuel without the light coming back on.

Diesel for same journey = £48

Edited 7 March, 201313 yr by vrs777

I think you really need a petrol turbo and remap. 40mpg really achievable if you want, the rest you can figure out.

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and a bmw 330d, and i got rid of the beemer pretty quickly when i got fed up of the auto and the general manners of a diesel.

I would say don't get one.

If you don't like the "manners of a diesel" when it's a 3L straight six (I loved mine and kept it for over 4 years), then I can only see disappointment and a lot of lost cash when you trade it back in for a petrol after 6 months.

As others have said, buy a nearly new/up to 3 year old petrol instead.

H

Well, I only just changed to the Octy vRS petrol from a Mondeo ST TDCI. Loved the ST and had racked up almost 100,000 miles in 5 years of ownership.......for about 20,000 miles a year, a diesel was worth it. Now my mileage is down to between 10000 and 12000 miles per year ,when the time came to get a replacement, I decided to go petrol.

Loving the Octy vRS.....although only getting 29.6mpg (lots of town driving.......but this consistently seems to be the brim to brim figure) was a shock as I was used to about 41mpg. But, totally loving the car - and can still get a shot of my old one, my dad bought it from me.......nowt wrong with it really just after 5 years it was time for a change!

As to your dilema.....guess you gotta do the sums - financially is it worth it to you???? Then you have to reconcile the FWD issue(although you're dealing with that already) and the manners of a diesel issue which you've already stated you're not fond of. I guess this all puts a price on your motoring, and only you can answer that!!

Oh - my ex had an RX-8 Evolve.......which was loads of fun unitl you had to fill it up.......which we had to often......best we got there was about 21mpg.....probably more realistically was about 15mpg....she did lots of small journeys!!!

Good luck with your car dilema - looks like a head vs heart decision!!

Difficult call really.....if youre doing lots of miles then financially a diesel is going to generally make alot of sense as there is no getting around the fact that the slightly greater purchase price and fueling cost is going to be massively outweighed by its far superior fuel economy (the CR can average late 30s early 40's without any effort, late 40s early 50's a realistic long term average.

Im not going to pull the wool over your eyes.....the Diesel simply is not as fast or as fun as the TFSi/TSi....but it is extremely effective and still a bloody fast point to point car also the VAG CR engines are about as petrol like as a 4 cylinder diesel engine comes nowadays, quiet and quite revvy.

I'd suggest you try a diesel as there is alot to like about them; and you'd certainly benefit from the cost saving.....does however mean commiting to 250/month for the next 3/3.5 years though got to remember that.

I would say don't get one.

If you don't like the "manners of a diesel" when it's a 3L straight six (I loved mine and kept it for over 4 years), then I can only see disappointment and a lot of lost cash when you trade it back in for a petrol after 6 months.

As others have said, buy a nearly new/up to 3 year old petrol instead.

H

I agree. I had a 330d manual but the manual box was horrid. Much preferred my later auto beemer. Gearbox's are a subjective thing though but what generally isnt subjective is that the BMW 3.0 6cyl diesel is probably onen of the best if not the best diesel engines you can buy. If you didnt like it then you will hate the VAG 2.0 litre unit and probably every other diesel in the world.

Stick with your petrol mate as i think its a new car you are lusting after rather than a diesel specifically. Get a newish petrol VRS as this will probably save you thousands over a blackline.

I like to use an engine, I like to let the revs build, especially if there is a little induction or turbo noise. Obviously with an oil-burner this doesn't work as well, the other reason is that distinctive noise. That was my logic in getting the 6 pot beemer as compared to its smaller 4 cylinder kin, (also because I believe that BMW always deliberately stifles engines to push sales of the higher ranges.)

I think part of the dislike is that the only diesel I've had so far was an auto, as was my merc, and I'm yet to be convinced by them.

After sleeping on the matter I'm pretty much decided that I will keep my current vRS, its already paid for, the economy figures are pretty good (at least on sensible runs) and as tempting as a brand new car is I don't fancy getting too committed to it.

Maybe when the new vRS comes out who knows?

(also, if circumstances change and I don't have to do so many miles I'm going back to my GTR anyway)

but there is a little whisper at the back of my mind about the new vRS. Especially if the rumours are true about the 4WD, although I think it will be out of my price range for a while.

It won't be 4wd :(

The car you choose will be dependant on your circumstances. I had a diesel for 4 years while I set up a business and money was tight. It was fine, but I never loved it.

Times are better now and I now have a car I love

Choose the best car you can afford to run within your budget

Choose the best car you can afford to run within your budget

I can happily afford to run my current car, it is fully paid for. insurance is very sensible, and I get 25p a mile expenses. My thoughts on switching were to maximise that 25p with higher mpg but to still have something sporty and GTi-y. A trawl through the back of the top gear mag and plenty of websites leaves a choice of one, the blackline.

I could afford to own the blackline, but that 240 a month is an expense I don't currently have and can now put towards other things, (of which i have a list... top is an exhaust and remap)

Edited 8 March, 201313 yr by Sacredsock

I can happily afford to run my current car, it is fully paid for. insurance is very sensible, and I get 25p a mile expenses. My thoughts on switching were to maximise that 25p with higher mpg but to still have something sporty and GTi-y. A trawl through the back of the top gear mag and plenty of websites leaves a choice of one, the blackline.

I could afford to own the blackline, but that 240 a month is an expense I don't currently have and can now put towards other things, (of which i have a list... top is an exhaust and remap)

Good choice I had a remapped vRS TSi and it was one quick & (relatively) economical car.

Wise choice, once the Mk 3 becomes more common the Mk 2 values will slide, no point buying a new Mk 2 now unless you can get it for a really really good price. What you will loose in depreciation on the new car will be more than the extra fuel you are using Im sure. The only other thing to factor in is if you can see reliability issues developing on the current car & that will depend on how many miles its done