I did spot that - so it will have some effect on what my next one is (just - as I get about 2 years from a car). I've got another 18 months to decide though - and by the rate cars are coming through at the moment it will be a different playing field by then.

Agreed. Cars very quickly start to look uncompetitive at the moment.

Ones I looked at last year that were top of the pile in terms of performance and emissions are already a bit so-so.

Could do if running a 4 year lease - we pushed our company car leases out to 4 years (from 3 years) sometime ago based on reliability etc of models.

You would have to do some serious sums to work it out though.

Not too hard.

Assume you are looking at a petrol and diesel car both in the same band on the 1st April 2013 - the Octavia CR150 and 1.4TSI for example.

In 2013/14 you'll have 17% for both

In 2014/15 you'll have 18% for both

In 2015/16 you'll have 20% for both

In 2016/17 you'll have 22% for petrol and 19% for diesel

I'll wait for the ACT version of the 1.4 - drops about 10-15g by the looks of the other VAG models with it in..Golf with 140PS DSG and ACT is 110g..

I'll wait for the ACT version of the 1.4 - drops about 10-15g by the looks of the other VAG models with it in..Golf with 140PS DSG and ACT is 110g..

Are they bringing that to the "cheaper" brands as well then?

It does sound good

One would hope so, especially as its an EA211 feature (which is what the new 1.4TSI engine is). probably saving for a later date though as its currently only on the Golf and Polo, I think. Twincharger started as a VW-only feature, then spread across the whole VAG range.

EDIT: Looks like its in the A1 as well..

Edited 22 March, 201313 yr by philhoward

In April 2016 the 3% diesel surcharge will be dropped too, so that will have a big effect on car choices.

Not a factor for anything you pick today, but it will be more relevant in a couple of years time.

As I understand it they haven't said they'll drop it, they just haven't committed to what it will or won't be yet. I'd be amazed if they just dropped it - more likely they'll raise the petrol bands to match the diesel!

Yes I'm a newbie - considering an Oct. III to replace my lease Mazda 6 which goes back at the end of July. New Mazda 6 is outside my budget, plus I don't really want an estate and the stupidly made it a saloon not a hatch, despite it being a shape that they could have put a hatch on. And it's even bigger than the last one. Shame because otherwise, apart from a lack of refinement at motorway speeds, it's a great car.

So I'm tossing up between a Golf 2.0 TDI SE, a Passat 2.0TDI Highline (some great deals on those at the moment) and an Octavia 150 Elegance. Need to try and get to drive them this weekend. The question with the Oct. is how refined is it on the motorway, i.e. tyre & wind noise. I know the Golf is a lot smaller, but it is beautifully put together and very refined. Passat is a bit long in the tooth and not so good on CO2, plus I'd rather have a hatch. Hmm.

Mike

As I understand it they haven't said they'll drop it, they just haven't committed to what it will or won't be yet. I'd be amazed if they just dropped it - more likely they'll raise the petrol bands to match the diesel!

It's in the budget that they are dropping the surcharge.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2013/tiin-2654.pdf

Hmm. I started reading that notice the other day but became comatose before I'd got to the 2nd paragraph.

So as I understand it, a diesel car in the 105-109g/km bracket will be subject to BIK thus:

2012-2013: 15%

2013-2014: 16%

2014-2015: 17%

2015-2016: 19%

2016-2017: 21%

However it's worded, that doesn't feel like a drop in diesel taxation, more like an increase but with an even bigger increase in petrol taxation

Mike

Hmm. I started reading that notice the other day but became comatose before I'd got to the 2nd paragraph.

So as I understand it, a diesel car in the 105-109g/km bracket will be subject to BIK thus:

2012-2013: 15%

2013-2014: 16%

2014-2015: 17%

2015-2016: 19%

2016-2017: 21%

However it's worded, that doesn't feel like a drop in diesel taxation, more like an increase but with an even bigger increase in petrol taxation

Mike

But with "In 2016-17... ... The 3 percentage point diesel supplement will be removed.", the last figure should be lower since you are talking about a diesel:

2012-2013: 15%

2013-2014: 16%

2014-2015: 17%

2015-2016: 19%

2016-2017: 18%

I can choose a 2, 3 or 4 year lease (4 usually being the cheapest, unless it is a BMW diesel estate, in which case 2 years is often cheapest!), so this may affect the car I order soon. If I only knew which car that would be! Not helped by the fact that neither my fleet supplying dealer, my local dealer, not SUK can get me a drive in an Elegance in the foreseeable future! SUK will be sending me a 1.6D DSG Elegance in 3 weeks and had offered a date in May for the 2.0D manual Elegance that I want... My local dealer hasn't even got its demonstrator yet.

Edited 22 March, 201313 yr by Juniperz

I'd hadn't added the supplement in to the new bands which come in2015, so I think for diesel that makes:

2015-2016: 22%

2016-2017: 21% (up 2% general rise, down 3% removal of diesel supplement)

I'm sure it's deliberately confusing like everything else the government and civil service do.

Anyway, apologies for the thread drift, back to your usual programming...

Edited 22 March, 201313 yr by MikeBz