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I shall shortly be ordering a new Yeti. Is the 'MDi interface' something that enables you to select tracks and control the i-pod in the glove compartment?

My current Fabia has the 'aux in ' but I would prefer to control it from the dash.

Any comments on this or other new Yeti subjects welcome.

It is much more than just an Aux in. It does as you describe in that it charges the iPod/iPhone as well as give you access to the playlists and tracks which you can then control via the radio or the steering wheel controls.

Will this not work via bluetooth also??

No the Bluetooth connects and lets you play music but as of yet not managed to control the iPhone/iPod through Bluetooth.

The MDI is the way ahead it lets you do everything via screen or the mfd on the steering wheel.

But I do not like the way skoda put there MDI connection underneath the stereo in the little tray as unless you unplug and put your iPod away each time you get in and out the car it's left on full show.

The way I retrofitted the MDI was the same way some other guys have done on here also is to route the wiring into the dashboard stowage tray which has sprung lid and conceals the iPod away from prying eyes and also makes the dash look a lot less cluttered with wires all over the place.

Will this not work via bluetooth also??

Yes it does, both my HTC One and Samsung S3 connect via Bluetooth and show the titles on the screen which you can touch pause, forward, reverse etc. Only thing missing is the charge which I do via a retractable USB micro cable adaptor in the centre console cig lighter socket

My iPhone and my iPad will both stream via bluetooth to the 2010 Bolero but do not show tracks or allow control via the steering wheel controls.

I suspect either android devices have a different bluetooth protocols or the bolero jonceebee has is differently configured.

I have mine installed through to the glovebox where my old iPod nano lives. On the L&K I have ordered I will use the later very tiny 16gb nano (about 1 1/4" square) which will hopefully hide away in the back of the little cubby.

I note from the new Octavia brochure that it has a Bolero with a usb and an aux socket but that if you want apple connectivity you need to specify a different apple compatible socket.

https://tools.skoda.co.uk/brochure_newoctavia.pdf

My iPhone and my iPad will both stream via bluetooth to the 2010 Bolero but do not show tracks or allow control via the steering wheel controls.

I suspect either android devices have a different bluetooth protocols or the bolero jonceebee has is differently configured.

I have mine installed through to the glovebox where my old iPod nano lives. On the L&K I have ordered I will use the later very tiny 16gb nano (about 1 1/4" square) which will hopefully hide away in the back of the little cubby.

I note from the new Octavia brochure that it has a Bolero with a usb and an aux socket but that if you want apple connectivity you need to specify a different apple compatible socket.

Just tried mt wife's I-Phone and you are right it does not show the tracks on the Bolero screen. The Android system does something the I-Phone cannot, I am impressed. With 64GB on my HTC and I have only used 22GB for music, Radio Four Plays etc. with much more to add. I can't wait to rub my Mrs. nose in it, she always claims the I-Phone is the Bee's Knees, well the Androud system must be the dogs B******s then

And of course the other option (neater in some ways than leaving a nano in the car) is the SD card slot, which I assume will display and control from the radio/steering wheel? A 32gb sd card's not pricey these days and less likely to be nicked from the car than a pod or android machine ;-)

Going back to the OP's question about ipod (not iphone) & Steph64's follow-up question of whether bluetooth would provide the same functionality:

  • ipods, as we know, have no built-in bluetooth
  • Several after-market modules are available
  • I have a sennheiser module that provides (I think) v1.3 AVRCP - it can certainly provide metadata & be controlled by a remote unit, if the remote unit is capable *. Bolero (or to be precise, Bolero with GSM II prep) must be capable if it is working with Samsungs etc.
  • Works great on my motorbike, but sucks battery power from the ipod like a hungry leach
  • Occupies the ipod socket, preventing any separate charging connection

My view, for what it's worth, is that you can, therefore, control an ipod via bluetooth (if you buy the right module) but, as the battery life will suck, best buy the MDI if you can afford it (only, of course, if you've got enough music on your ipod to warrant it [ipod classic etc] no point buggering around with a nano when a good SD card will suffice) .

Hope that helps.

* For AVRCP standards, see: http://en.wikipedia....ile_.28AVRCP.29

Edited by Skoda Al Coda

Ipod touch has bluetooth (as does the ipad).

Ipad will not pair with skoda Bluetooth as it cannot see the Bluetooth for some reason

Tried and failed before

Can't test mine as it's not arriving for another 6 weeks; shame if the pad doesn't pair (can't think why it wouldn't if the other apple devices do though...?)!

Having not got the Yeti yet all I have time to do is read the manuals; it seems that pairing a phone and pairing an audio device via bluetooth are two separate activities, the iPad would need to be done via the latter method to see the bluetooth I think.

Just tried mt wife's I-Phone and you are right it does not show the tracks on the Bolero screen. The Android system does something the I-Phone cannot, I am impressed.

According to Apple, the iPhone 3G and all subsequent models support AVRCP 1.4, which is what you need to be able to control the phone and browse tracks over Bluetooth. So be careful - if your wife has an original iPhone then you might just be providing her with an excuse to upgrade! If she has a later model iPhone then it might just need an iOS upgrade; at a minimum iOS 5 (introduced in 2011, so pre-dating either of your Android phones) is required for AVRCP 1.4.

Otherwise - something's not working the way it should.

According to Apple, the iPhone 3G and all subsequent models support AVRCP 1.4, which is what you need to be able to control the phone and browse tracks over Bluetooth. So be careful - if your wife has an original iPhone then you might just be providing her with an excuse to upgrade! If she has a later model iPhone then it might just need an iOS upgrade; at a minimum iOS 5 (introduced in 2011, so pre-dating either of your Android phones) is required for AVRCP 1.4.

Otherwise - something's not working the way it should.

No, I have the latest iOS and mine can't do it (Nov 2010 Yeti). The later Yeti's have a different Bluetooth module for the radio and THAT is what makes it work.

The iPhone may well have AVRCP 1.4 but if I remember rightly, both the Bolero and Columbus units only support AVRCP 1.3 (or specifically the Bluetooth module they use.)

This means that SOME degree of control is available for later iPhones and iPods, however, the ability to browse tracks, albums, playlists etc is not available via Bluetooth.

It is for this reason that I ordered the MDI module for our new Yeti, otherwise I'm not sure I would've bothered. All I would miss if full control and browsing were available is the charging which would easily be solved by plugging the iPhone into the cigarette socket.

I don't know if the AVRCP version is dictated by the hardware or the firmware but perhaps someone can clarify this? If its controlled by firmware then there's the hope that a new one that supports v1.4 will become available.

If my understanding of the AVRCP version is incorrect or there's somehow a way to fully control an iPhone or iPod through the Bluetooth, including full browsing, then I'd be very interested to know.

Edited by scottpcs

No, I have the latest iOS and mine can't do it (Nov 2010 Yeti). The later Yeti's have a different Bluetooth module for the radio and THAT is what makes it work.

Doesn't that mean that the limitation lies in the Bluetooth module, rather than in the iPhone/iOS?

It appears that stock Android as released by Google only supports AVRCP 1.0, which doesn't even provide metadata (track name, album etc) for the current playing track. This is despite the fact that the Bluetooth software stack that they used to build Android supports AVRCP 1.3 "out of the box". So, for example, the Nexus 4 released late last year is stuck with AVRCP 1.0, despite the rest of its spec (and its price) looking so tempting that LG couldn't make enough to meet demand. Recent Android phones which do support AVRCP versions higher than 1.0 have had the functionality added to base Android by the phone manufacturer. I understand that some third-party media player apps may also implement 1.3 or 1.4, as may some third-party Android versions such as Cyanogenmod.

(For clarification: as I understand it, AVRCP 1.3 supports display of media metadata ie track name, album etc whereas AVRCP 1.4 is required to be able to browse the connected device's media library.)

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Wow! Loads of info from those who know, thanks.

Doesn't that mean that the limitation lies in the Bluetooth module, rather than in the iPhone/iOS?

That is exactly what I was trying to imply. :giggle:

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