I saw part of the trailer for this and thought it was for a sitcom - didn't think it was 'real life'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2302581/I-conned-TV-bosses-says-teenage-star-Barely-Legal-Drivers-reality-show.html?ICO=most_read_module

I got wound up just reading that article. I'm pretty sure the program will annoy me to think that these people are allowed licenses let alone cars. I was not aware that they won a car, that is somewhat deluded in my view.

Unless you're an Argentinian footballer

They said on the radio that his £1000 fine equated to about an hours pay.

And his 250hours community service will almost be spent doing something footbally

with 'the kids', hardly a punishment. He'll be adored by the stupid wherever he goes

and the same people will forget the reason he's there.

I'd have had him out in all weathers for 250 hours picking up rubbish from the

central reservation. Even he would be capable of that.

Grr, can't agree with you more. The judge even said he should be setting an example. The fines and punishments for public figures should be greater than for normal people, not a weak slap on the wrist.

James, that explains the odd locations and that all the 'contestants' looked like that. I was wondering why they got them going to nightclubs and RR dealers.

I've always taken driving seriously but those who have driven with me know I have fun too but only when conditions allow. We all do. I think there should be massive incentives to build up proper NCB. At the moment it's not worth much at all. It's gone up £10 since last year for me and nothing has changed. Some companies do give discounts for IAM, RoSPA, etc but these aren't that big, plus it isn't advertised enough that these exist. Wonder how many of these morons have ever heard of advanced driving.

A good way would be having a driving CV where they can see what you driven and insured in the past and how many miles you've covered in each. This could help drivers build up to a faster car if they wanted rather than going all out then getting into trouble without the experience of it. You buy a car and tell the DVLA your mileage then when you sell they get told again plus now they have on record how many it's doing between MOT's. I've done well over 100,000 miles if not more since I passed over 6 years ago in all sorts of vehicles, my own and vans with work. Thinking back to the people I was in school and college with, very few of them can drive well or take it seriously enough. I'm not perfect but I know my limits. Sorry I've gone on a bit but it really annoys me when people like this are blatantly bad and couldn't care less

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I got wound up just reading that article. I'm pretty sure the program will annoy me to think that these people are allowed licenses let alone cars. I was not aware that they won a car, that is somewhat deluded in my view.

That's interesting and certainly explains a lot, I couldn't believe how badly the female was driving last night when the cameras were very obvious in the car but it makes sense if she thought she was being filmed for a reality style show as she seemed keen to highlight her Katie Price obsession including going to a Range Rover garage because that's what Katie Price had.

The program isn't just annoying as the driving they show is so bad it's really scary to think there are people like that out there who have a driving license but worse yet that they're rewarded for terrible driving with a car which is beyond belief. The format of the show was extremely poor as well as basically almost the entire content was their bad driving, you'd expect them to show one such section and the rest focusing on re-educating the drivers but not at all. On the likes of Britain's worst driver a few years ago with Quentin Wilson, almost all the driving was done off public roads so the terrible driving wasn't a risk to anyone else and the entire focus was on improving their driving standard which was a much better format.

I didn't think much of the ex police officer either who didn't seem that bothered either, I think getting a traffic cop to give them a rollicking would have been better particularly as they'll have seen the results first hand of that type of poor driving which isn't pretty.

I had a look at the BBC3 Facebook page and their response is pathetic, just a copy/pasted reply the same to everyone saying the program was intended to show bad driving but also contained practical tips to improve driving. I'd be interested to see what grounds people are reporting the program to OFCOM as I do think the content of the program was very poor given the BBC sat back and observed all the dangerous driving on public roads only stepping in when one of them was going to drink and drive, he was twice the legal limit.

John

Edited 4 April, 201313 yr by JohnMcL7

the program was intended to show bad driving but also contained practical tips to improve driving.

Must have missed those - unless the tips were "drive like you were taught and ensure you have a sober BBC film crew with you to breathalyse you if you've been drinking"

It's interesting that the journeys were condensed down to a few minutes of "highlights" so it's difficult to judge the whole of their driving solely based on how they are portrayed, although I agree that the traffic cop's feedback wasn't really very helpful.

Chris

Wonder how many of these morons have ever heard of advanced driving.

Not many, but I bet they could name all the 'celebs' on TOWIE.

It's the social media generation, I think they honestly believe their lives are that interesting

that every detail of it has to go on Facebonk. And I think they've been told how

'special' they are by their equally deluded parents all thier lives and this is the result.

They are nothing short of dole fodder unless they get real and work for a living.

1 in 50,000 of these plebs will see their 5 mins of fame.

I read the article posted earlier about the other silly tart albeit in the Mail

and wasn't surprised to read her phone was in use in the car as I predicted earlier.

I bet when the shows producers asked for 'fun and confident groups of friends'

the amount of these wannabees coming out of the woodwork was astrononical.

I expect the producers were over run with applicants who wanted to be on 'telly'.

The current crop of spoilt, polished, over made up meatballs with expensive

clothes and zero realistic aspirations are a real worry to me. I'd like to employ an

assistant one day but have been disheartened by the young men out there,

even my wifes younger brothers are turning out to be right spoilt little d1cks and

are the last people I'd employ and they have the advantage of being family.

But an 11 year old who can't tell the time or tie his laces (Not even joking)

and a 14 year old who is perfectly healthy but so lazy at school he is

sectioned with the learning difficulties kids , despite him being of at least average

intelligence. I find it very difficult to believe my wife was fathered by the same

sperm that created these two little wasters in the making.

/rant (for now, Jesus I'm getting grumpier in my old age... )

I'd have had him out in all weathers for 250 hours picking up rubbish from the

central reservation

of the M57 in L'pool.

Re. the programme:

Gonna have to watch it now... even though I know it'll wind me up!

Ran a dog over once years ago - not speeding or anything, it ran out in front of me - didn't half make me calm my driving. Maybe these people should have to do a couple of weeks with an ambulance crew.

Edited 4 April, 201313 yr by Yearofthegoat

I watched this on Tuesday. Now I know why insurance premiums are so high....

Gr666; perhaps describing how you have carried out insurance fraud is a bit unwise.

You said:

"Young lad driving just hadn't braked at all and slammed into me. Got a phone call that evening from

the boys father (saga policy) to say they wouldn't contest anything I said as long as I said it

was him (the father) driving at the time. (police not involved on the scene).

After doing the math in my head (working out that Johnny Yahoo wasn't covered to drive his

dads Avensis) I took the path of least resistance and put the claim through as if his father had

been driving. I needed my car for work and couldn't afford to wait for a criminal case to

get it fixed. I expect a lot of this goes on."

Edited 4 April, 201313 yr by loskie

Outrageous tosh....but it made all us saints think even harder about avoiding young drivers. If anything useful comes out of it ( besides giving poor drivers a car to abuse). It should be a follow-up in 12 months time to see if they had improved and learned to look after themselves and crucially other road users. Somebody will take offence eventually and is there going to be a film crew present to jump out and stop a loud teen getting a slap? It would appear that it's now just as likely for a young 'lady' to dish out road rage as a young guy. Lastly the car should come tied to passing an advanced driving course. Phew...

Just been on BBC3.

Quote of the program:

"Yes, that's right, Tommy has eleven blokes names tattooed on his bum."

Both of the kids should have had their licenses revoked and, for the amount of dangerous driving involved, prosecuted. And for it all to be shown on TV as an example to the rest of the world, both young and old.

Pair of to55ers, Jesus give me an AK and I'll sort it.

Grr666 you are not getting grumpier, your posts seem eminently sensible to me. Thick, spoiled brats need to be taught a lesson.

I don't have a tv at home, but it's discussions like this that make me want to get a telly.. When was this on? I'll see if it's on iplayer.

I don't have a tv at home, but it's discussions like this that make me want to get a telly.. When was this on? I'll see if it's on iplayer.

Here you go:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01rrxyw/Barely_Legal_Drivers_Tommy_and_Chantelle/

John

Wonder if a member of the public with a copy of the show on a hard disk recorder reported it with evidence what they'd do.

After all they do footballers when a member of the public sees something.

Caught a part of the programme last night, where the girl was driving while eating a sandwich, then on the phone. She had no idea where she was going, which lane to be in and was not aware of what was going on around her.

Unfortunately I see too many of these drivers around.

oh dear, just wtched it on iplayer and i've lost the will to live, the bbc have really scraped the barrel with this, what a stinking pile of poo, i'm so glad i dont have to pay for a tv license for little 'gems' like that.... the driving was pretty typical of most 19 ish year olds though, i was exactly the same when i was that age

It is a common thing lately that the multicoloured chino wearing, stupid haircut lot of kids seem to be the bellends who are always out getting smashed. I grew out of that when it became legal The excitement went and other, more expensive hobbies I found more important. I still drink but only on special occasions and normally locally. Clubbing in town is long gone and I'm only 24. A lot of people my age and younger from school don't have that many aspirations or hobbies or plans. I still live like a young, single man because I am. As hobbies and interests go I've got the car, road bike, motorbike, kayak, fishing, building PC's and a few other things. Many just aspire to getting so drunk on a weekend they forget where they are and are a £100 lighter. That IMO is no fun at all and it's seems how lots of my generation and younger went. I think that's quite sad really and it's these sorts of people, like the ones on the program who couldn't care less about driving either. I'm not saying they need to know the ins and out of all things cars, I know I don't but be interested enough to drive well. Failing that something Clarkson said a few years ago that if you're not interested in something you can't be good at it, therefore if they aren't interested in driving then they shouldn't be on the road.

Failing that something Clarkson said a few years ago that if you're not interested in something you can't be good at it, therefore if they aren't interested in driving then they shouldn't be on the road.

This is an interesting point - when Roadcraft was originally conceived it was as a result of the police destroying a huge number of their cars due to accidents. Its intention was to provide a framework such that any police officer who was required to drive as part of the job could do so in a safe, systematic and smooth way by identifying hazards and then applying a series of steps to negotiate it. Whether this could translate to civilian driving is another matter though, and all the people I've coached have been car/driving enthusiasts from the outset which I think makes it an easier task and certainly more enjoyable from my perspective.

Chris

Both of them didn't deserve to get a car. The bloke was going to drive at nearly twice the legal limit (the camera crew had to stop him) and the bird was eating, putting on make up, using her phone, couldn't navigate for poop and has the most horrific mouth I have ever seen behind the wheel of a car. I don't give a toss about her waterworks saying sorry about what she had done to get the car, she didn't deserve it. I'm 21 and have never held a condom out of the window of a car, never used my phone behind the wheel (exept in an emergancy but as soon as I had dialed 999 it went on loudspeaker and was put in the cup holders between the seats), never eaten behind the wheel and have never ever drink driven.

Looks like I need to live a little

Rant over

On another note tho I know how it feels to have a bunch of lads in the car egging you on to go faster but its not worth it because if you crash or get caught speeding it is all on you. If you get out the crash alive or get points on your licence then it is your insurance that is going to sky rocket.

never used my phone behind the wheel (exept in an emergancy but as soon as I had dialed 999 it went on loudspeaker and was put in the cup holders between the seats)

There's a specific exemption in the legislation that states you are allowed to use the phone handheld in an emergency, but it's nice to see a sensible approach and using a hands free mode

Chris

The program was a crock of ****e, neither should have got a car....

Both standards of driving were appauling. Come on, weve all been bigged up by our mates to show them what ours cars can do when we were younger so the 100mph on the motorway was not a massive crime. The bloke would have won the car if he hadn't got in the car after 4 glasses of champagne.

The girl just needed a slap, blatantly a spoilt little cow.

Wonder if a member of the public with a copy of the show on a hard disk recorder reported it with evidence what they'd do.

After all they do footballers when a member of the public sees something.

Well, there's quite a few officers of the law on here, maybe they'd care to suggest a course of action with this.