Next week's one has a coloured girl in it. Seem to recall some of the trailers had her saying she thinks she drives better when she's a bit tipsy. Oh dear.

Actually, that might not be as stupid as it sounds. Small amounts of alcohol has a calming effect on some people, and if she is an aggressive driver, it might actually take her down a notch. Not that I support drunk driving in any way, just that she might have a point. Although I do admit that it is a big might...

I don't get the instance to use mobile phones while driving though. If you know you cant multi task, don't! Doesn't matter if its legal or not. Although at this point, I'd prefer to leave it legal. Its better than people slamming the brakes and stopping on the shoulder on a dual carriageway, just because the phone rang. Or just stopping wherever they are.

I get the feeling that she'll become mum's runabout service though.

That's true, having been someone with a brain tumours taxi service myself

it's a good thing her mum has someone on hand to do that. Maybe some pass plus lessons

with some extra motorway tuition would be more useful to her than skid pan training.

That seems to be the weak area with her.

That's true, having been someone with a brain tumours taxi service myself

it's a good thing her mum has someone on hand to do that. Maybe some pass plus lessons

with some extra motorway tuition would be more useful to her than skid pan training.

That seems to be the weak area with her.

I suspect that the advanced lessons will include a bit more than the headline skid control. They might even be tailored slightly off the back of the videos.

Actually, that might not be as stupid as it sounds. Small amounts of alcohol has a calming effect on some people, and if she is an aggressive driver, it might actually take her down a notch. Not that I support drunk driving in any way, just that she might have a point. Although I do admit that it is a big might...

I see where you're coming from, however, given the general attitude that we've seen towards alcohol, her "a bit tipsy" is probably still over the legal limit. The ex-traffic cop did say to the boy this week that even one drink could have dulled his reactions when the taxi came at him. IMHO if you have anger management issues behind the wheel, then take the bus, not a pint.

Think we could have a "I should know better" program as well. Those of, er, "more advanced years" who think they can hold their drink and still drive.

Well, after catching up with this at the parents house the other night. Jesus, glad I dont contribute to the TVL funds due to not having/watching tele (Just a monitor for my gaming devices ).

Off topic but, Mr Grr, are you an xbox man with a similair tag to your username ?

Have seen the first two episodes,truly terrifying these idiots are on the road at all.

Edited 19 April, 201313 yr by leckman

Haven't watched it all yet but sounds like I was right. The minute he mentioned about her mum you knew she'd get the car. Of what I saw the only bad thing he did was drive off without clear windows. Both should have driver training anyway, especially her.

No, he got the car on offer from the show.

When the girl realised there was a car at stake and she never got given it

the waterworks came on. Her mum coughed up and bought her a car afterwards.

She got the training, not the lad. I forgot about the steamed up windows.

Ah I see. Oh that's OK then. I'd only watched about half of it.

I see where you're coming from, however, given the general attitude that we've seen towards alcohol, her "a bit tipsy" is probably still over the legal limit. The ex-traffic cop did say to the boy this week that even one drink could have dulled his reactions when the taxi came at him. IMHO if you have anger management issues behind the wheel, then take the bus, not a pint.

Think we could have a "I should know better" program as well. Those of, er, "more advanced years" who think they can hold their drink and still drive.

True. People have this remarkable ability to (greatly) overestimate their tolerance for alcohol. Its even worse with us "kids". Personally, I utterly despise the feeling of not having complete control of my faculties. I'm not against drinking, don't get me wrong. I like drinking, just not to the limit when you loose control. I got (accidentally) drugged once and it was the absolute worst thing I've lived through my entire life. That feeling of complete loss of control and then no memory of it whatsoever is terrible.

I seem to recall watching an old survey of sorts done by a motor magazine a back when when the limit was lowered from 0.5 to 0.2 (1990 unless I'm mistaken.). If I remember correctly, of the hundred people they tested, 74 passed the test course with 0.2, but only 12 could do it with 0.5. Its a **** statistic I know, because we swedes cant drive when were sober either. Just throwing it out there.

I've only just watched the first episode so on catch up. Interesting viewing and also quite frustrating. I don't think the lad (Tom) drove particularly badly. It was only when he went to drive the car that he fell down. Perhaps more an issue is him choosing to waste his higher education but that is something he will probably come to regret later in life. I can never fathom out why people spend all that money going to university and then don't take it seriously.

The girl on the other hand was a distinctly poorer driver. How many times did she cause a hazard to other road users; most notably when she swerved out into the outside lane of the motorway. Not to mention displaying poor car control on the motorway and describing the lanes as "slow" & "fast". Grr. I really don't think she deserved the car. I can understand why they couldn't give it to Tom after his attempted drink driving but by the same token she really didn't deserve it.

I shall watch the other episodes with interest.

I find some of the sweeping generalisations in this thread a bit hard to digest and I detect a certain degree of "holier than thou" going on. I doubt many, if any, young drivers don't make mistakes or do foolish things one way or another; I know I did. You only learn from your mistakes ultimately and experience is key to improving driver standards. I have long said that the best thing my Sixth Form college ever did for me was invite the local fire brigade along who did a talk about road safety which showed several road safety videos and rather horrid pictures. Education is better than persecution (financial or otherwise). Accordingly I don't agree with the ridiculously high insurance premiums, but my biggest objection is against the idea of making trackers compulsory for young drivers. I think for that level of state intervention and monitoring you need to move to North Korea. By all means have that as a choice for those that want it, but cannot, and most definitely should not, be forcing monitoring equipment on to anyone.

IMHO this program has been the "best" so far. The girl made rookie mistakes, and it was said that she hadn't driven since she passed her test in August (no telling when the program was filmed.) IMHO she'll get better with experience and was miles ahead of the other two "ladies" we've seen so far. Given how peer pressure usually works, the boy did very well, especially with the taxi incident (note the taxi had it's rear-fogs on).

Would agree that it was the best so far (or the least bad) and they were pretty much inline with what you'd expect from new, inexperienced drivers. I was disappointed that the ex-trafpol lady seemed to have absolved him of all wrong-doing for the taxi incident as imvho he should really have seen it earlier (rear fog light making it even more visible ) and he had the opportunity to move to the empty lane 2 to allow it to join, rather than focussing on the fact that "at least you hadn't been drinking" so the near miss was just that. I also thought she was laying on the melodrama a bit thick but maybe she thought it was the best way to reinforce the feedback.

The girl had a sound approach to driving, but I think lacked experience/confidence on motorways and it sounded like the advanced course she did was very useful to her (she mentioned being able to better identify hazards) and she seemed quite receptive to learning.

It was also nice to see a young girl and friends who don't feel the need to scream every five seconds.

Chris

I have long said that the best thing my Sixth Form college ever did for me was invite the local fire brigade along who did a talk about road safety which showed several road safety videos and rather horrid pictures. Education is better than persecution (financial or otherwise).

Is that really education though, or is it just reinforcing the governments "speed kills" message which is more about persecution (ever decreasing speed limits) rather than education (teaching people how to judge safe speed for the conditions)?

Chris

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22275953

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22275953

She was going faster than she and the conditions could handle. I do agree more training is needed. Even if something like skid pan training is introduced to show that when you lose grip and it lets go it really does.