Has anyone on here had experience of the Accord in it's more potent version? I'm toying with the idea of one at the moment as they are around the £2.5k mark for a reasonable example.

Are they any bigger in the rear than the Octavia? I know the boot won't be any where near as practical, but it's rear seat space I'm after. I'm also aware that they don't have the low down grunt of the 1.8t, but they do have 212bhp as standard so won't be too sluggish I'm assuming.

Any opinions are welcome and I won't be offended in any way.

Cheers,

Andrew.

I've never had one, never driven one but I want one so much

Just buy one!!

Never owned/driven one but have owned an Integra Type R and driven an EP3 Civic Type R. I don't think space in the rear will be much different to the Octavia. If you can find a good one, go for it!

There's one massive problem with that shape type are and it is its halfords looks! But I would have one soooo much more an later shape euroR with the k20a but then I couldn't justify spending £8k on an 04 plate accord haha

Andrew,

I have owned and still have my Accord Type R since new. 2000 reg.

The rear space is very similar to the Octavia but the Recaro seats are more comfortable in the rear.

The performance is moderate low down (nothing special) but hit the Vtech and it really flys.

The 0-60 is between 6.5 and 7 secs for a good strong one.

Things to watch out for are 5th gear synchro, power stearing pipes and brakes, these are a few of the common problem areas.

Providing they have been regularly serviced and gearbox oil changed it should be some cheap motoring. Providing the fuel costs are manageable :-) super-unleaded.

Martin

Cheers for the replies.

Martin, your points to look out for back up what I've found online so very useful thanks. People talk of a flexi pipe that needs sorting too, I've yet to research that properly.

The reason I'm looking is that I'm bored of the FRV. There's nothing wrong with it at all, but it makes long journeys so uneventful that even the Mrs is suggesting we change to something more interesting! The Accord Type R is something that I've always wanted to own at some point and seeing as we only cover about 8k miles a year it's not out of the question in terms of fuel. Insurance isn't an issue for me as an old codger - 40 in a couple of months - and the Honda reliability appeals.

The main thing is finding an unmolested, non chavified example that isn't lowered, decatted or an absolute dog. Seems that they have fallen into the hands of the bling brigade who love a loud exhaust innit?

Did test drive one when I was looking for a car, it was missing something I felt that the octy was a better all rounder

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Why not a type s? 190bhp.

Did test drive one when I was looking for a car, it was missing something I felt that the octy was a better all rounder

Can you put your finger on what the something was, or is it simply that it's a Japanese car and lacking character?

Why not a type s? 190bhp.

I hadn't considered an 'S' for a couple of reasons. One, I wasn't aware they had 190bhp and two, I'd always be thinking I'd bought second best.....

Can you put your finger on what the something was, or is it simply that it's a Japanese car and lacking character?

A VTEC doesn't lack in character, its anything but I owned a Civic Type-R EP3 and I always had a smile while driving.

I owned one. Fantastic handling car with a diff from the factory. Performance is good given plenty of revs.

Do it!

I had an Accord type R.years ago.

The fifth gear synchro was fixed under warranty.

Just as roomy in the back seat as Octy,front seats a lot better.

Lots more steering feel and better handling than the Octy vRS I had.

Where they fall down against the Octy is that the V-tec doesn't cut in until 5800 revs IIRC,so the performance is a bit flat at lower revs.

Also it's under geared for cruising,it needs a sixth gear....so mpg also suffers.

Still a great car though.

Dunno it had 110k on the clock, could of been worn suspension plus the lack of low down torque didn't suit my driving style. I know the octy isn't endowed with low down torque either but it doesn't need to be rev'd as much. I have a habit of going into fifth at 30 and my octy's happy to do it but the type r wasn't happy

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Can you put your finger on what the something was, or is it simply that it's a Japanese car and lacking character?

I hadn't considered an 'S' for a couple of reasons. One, I wasn't aware they had 190bhp and two, I'd always be thinking I'd bought second best.....

I think it may be the newer shape than you had been looking as I don't believe there is an R in this model.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/accord/15330/honda-accord-type-s

Guy in work has one, nice car. Don't go too much by the picture in that review, they seem to have more of a bodykit in the ones I've seen.

Back in 2002 I was lucky enough to drive both the Civic and the Accord Type R round the Indy circuit at Brands Hatch. I couldn't rave about them enough as far as fun road cars go. BUY IT!

It's this shape I'm looking at,

I've just got back from a run over the Moors with my mate in his ITR and there's something about Hondas from that era that still appeals...

I had an Accord type R.years ago.

The fifth gear synchro was fixed under warranty.

Just as roomy in the back seat as Octy,front seats a lot better.

Lots more steering feel and better handling than the Octy vRS I had.

Where they fall down against the Octy is that the V-tec doesn't cut in until 5800 revs IIRC,so the performance is a bit flat at lower revs.

Also it's under geared for cruising,it needs a sixth gear....so mpg also suffers.

Still a great car though.

Some good points there. To be honest the mpg isn't a major issue considering our annual mileage and seeing as I drive a Rallye every day, the need to rev a car isn't a bad thing nowadays. I got quite lazy when I had the remapped vRS, it was too easy to make good progress and I lost some skills in the time I had it. I've been relearning how to drive in the Rallye and I've now remembered what steering feel is. Don't get me wrong, I loved my Octavia and owned it for over 6 years, but it isn't a drivers car - more of a GT style cruiser.

I'm in no rush to get one which is just as good seeing as most out there are requiring a lot of work.

I borrowed one for a weekend years ago. Fantastic fun, the engine is sublime but you have to be in the mood. It's a totally different experience to a turbo charged 2 litre, and can be frustrating on an A road if you want to pass lots of slower traffic and you're stuck in the wrong gear. I thought it was fantastic personally

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Honda V TEC engines are known to be unburstable despite the high revs/output as long as they are looked after. They were very well regarded in their time and I think they have a mechanical LSD up front so the handling should be excellent. I don't know what it would be day to day with a hard ride and a very peaky engine but if you see a good one go and try I . I looked at a Type R Civic before buying my Vrs and sometimes regret buying it but the engine was very flat before the cam changed profiles at 5000k (above that it is just awesome) and I felt it would be too frustrating day to day.

For me, the Accord seemed to be missing the "magic" of the Civic and Integra. Maybe because it felt a bit more grown up. By no means a bad car though

Chris

the engine was very flat before the cam changed profiles at 5000k (above that it is just awesome) and I felt it would be too frustrating day to day.

I didn't find it too bad, but speaking to someone who'd had a bit of work done on his CTR, he said replacement cams are available which broaden the VTEC window so it kicks in earlier in the rev range. Not sure how that affects longevity of the engine, but I imagine it hurts the fuel economy

Chris

Sounds like the fuel economy isn't that good as standard anyway. 30mpg tops! Still, you only live once and all that.

Could be worse, im licky to get 20mpg from my celica :(

I never used to be a fan of hondas but i have to say i now love the dc2 itr after being in a mates, they sound amazimg and the vtec kick is awesome and i cant imagine the cord being much diffrent so go for it

Dont be put of by loud exhausts though...theres something about jap cars that makes them nice (although some hondas are stupidly loud..mainly with biddy club and spoon exhausts so avoid those)

They do look bloody good in black, I toyed with the idea of getting one but decided on a derv. kind of regret it now lol low insurance for what they are too.

Another thing you have to watch with these early VTEC is emissions. I was looking at S2000 brochure I have (always kind of fancied one of those) and the CO2 is 237 g/km which means £400 a year tax. However as you say you only live once. Some to think of it though the Accord might be just outside the punitive tax bands as I think that is for 2002 and above. They are certainly loads of fun but you just have to rag them all the time