Hi all,

Just wanted to post my figures from my car that's been mapped. It achieved 202bhp and 411Nm, would you say that's a good achievement or do you think its capable of more? Have you had your CR remapped and if so what figures did you get?

I only ask as I had a VW Lupo up my back side yesterday and I didn't seem to be able to leave him very easily. Maybe I could of driven the car a bit harder but even so its just a Lupo! :(

The 202bhp and 411nm figures came from a Superchips rolling road last week as I was unsure on the cars power as the original company didn't provide any print out or even a rolling road test.

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Sounds about right mate. Are you sure the torque figure is correct? 411 NM is about 300 lb/ft torque?

You never know mate, the Lupo may have had a 1.8T under the bonnet.

i was passed out by VW up two weeks ago just had to laugh...

how do you find the clutch after the remap? i will have to uprate mine its slips a bit high up. the remap really changed the way the car drives it just eases up from 0 to 60 .... and beyond!!

Mine made a tad over 200 on Shark's Bapro rollers, which are said to be pretty accurate, so I'd say 202 is about right

Mine made 208 bhp @ 3942 rpm and 461 Nm (340 lbs ft) @ 2693 rpm, remapped by Will at P-Torque. Mines a DSG though so can't answer the clutch question.

Power to weight wins every time.

To be honest I've struggled against a lupo before in both my combi and mk1 fabia vrs the later being remapped. They are quick little things, even more so when they are following in your slipstream :-p

Mine made 208 bhp @ 3942 rpm and 461 Nm (340 lbs ft) @ 2693 rpm, remapped by Will at P-Torque. Mines a DSG though so can't answer the clutch question.

is the DSG mapped aswell? and can you get the power down ok

My car before last was a remapped CR vRS and put out 204bhp and about 320lbs torque if I remember right. It was certainly better than standard but there were things I strugged to pull away from that I would have expected to.

Thanks for replies, at least its not just me lol. You know when you have doubts in your mind! My car is manual so I don't have DSG. There are just some cars you keep up with when they are giving it some beans (soot coming outa their exhaust etc lol) and others that just take you by surprise haha

Most tuners tend to quote 210 - 215; i think anything between 200 and 220 is probably achievable but the end figures youre given will only ever be as accurate as your tuners rolling road.

Torque is the really big increase with these engines, in OPs case another 60lb/ft but then again the TSI can make just over 300lb/ft with a remap, a near 100lb/ft increase over standard which is all the more impressive.

For me the CR has two negatives. Its power delivery lacks low down punch, doing away with the all then nothing torque delivery has made the CR smoother for sure but it lacks the v strong low end go that made a PD effortlessly quick at sensible engine speeds. The PDs ive had in the past I never really revved them that hard, 3 -3.5k in each gear was enough for really rapid progress, most of that go achieved between 1.5 and 3k rpm. To make a CR really go you tend to have to rag it a bit like a petrol taking it to peak power in each gear......takes some getting used to thats for sure.

As a consequence of this lack of low end go and short 1st 2nd and 3rd gears I also find the CR quite bad off the mark, its meant to hit 60 in just over 8 secs no different to the PD but it often feels slower and a bit laboured getting there because you have to rev it unnaturally hard to get the momentum. I quite often find in 2nd and 3rd its difficult to get away from slower metal unless you catch them off guard but it comes into its own 4th gear on when the better gearing and high torque output just allows for quite relentless surge, once in 4th and pulling they just start to disappear.

My view a standard petrol TSi is quicker than a standard CR, it would munch the CR off the line but the CR wont have much trouble keeping up with a TSi at motorway speeds.

A remapped CR is probably as quick as a standard TSi despite its slight power and significant torque advantages but thats good for a diesel car with a completely different power band and gearing.

A remapped TSi would demolish a remapped CR. No question.....probably cook a standard clutch or two as well with all that increase in torque. One thing it will never be able to do is sit a decent motorway speeds returning high 40's or have the ability to return over 500 miles to a tank like a remapped CR could.

I often think I made a mistake ditching my Fabia vRS TSi for the CR vRS Octavia and should have bought a 2.0 TSi but when I take a short trundle home from work and pretty much return 40+ mpg every time despite how I drive it makes me think it wasnt such a bad decision after all. The TSi would have been more fun though I know that :-)

Edited 22 April, 201313 yr by pipsyp

Most tuners tend to quote 210 - 215; i think anything between 200 and 220 is probably achievable but the end figures youre given will only ever be as accurate as your tuners rolling road.

Torque is the really big increase with these engines, in OPs case another 60lb/ft but then again the TSI can make just over 300lb/ft with a remap, a near 100lb/ft increase over standard which is all the more impressive.

For me the CR has two negatives. Its power delivery lacks low down punch, doing away with the all then nothing torque delivery has made the CR smoother for sure but it lacks the v strong low end go that made a PD effortlessly quick at sensible engine speeds. The PDs ive had in the past I never really revved them that hard, 3 -3.5k in each gear was enough for really rapid progress, most of that go achieved between 1.5 and 3k rpm. To make a CR really go you tend to have to rag it a bit like a petrol taking it to peak power in each gear......takes some getting used to thats for sure.

As a consequence of this lack of low end go and short 1st 2nd and 3rd gears I also find the CR quite bad off the mark, its meant to hit 60 in just over 8 secs no different to the PD but it often feels slower and a bit laboured getting there because you have to rev it unnaturally hard to get the momentum. I quite often find in 2nd and 3rd its difficult to get away from slower metal unless you catch them off guard but it comes into its own 4th gear on when the better gearing and high torque output just allows for quite relentless surge, once in 4th and pulling they just start to disappear.

My view a standard petrol TSi is quicker than a standard CR, it would munch the CR off the line but the CR wont have much trouble keeping up with a TSi at motorway speeds.

A remapped CR is probably as quick as a standard TSi despite its slight power and significant torque advantages but thats good for a diesel car with a completely different power band and gearing.

A remapped TSi would demolish a remapped CR. No question.....probably cook a standard clutch or two as well with all that increase in torque. One thing it will never be able to do is sit a decent motorway speeds returning high 40's or have the ability to return over 500 miles to a tank like a remapped CR could.

I often think I made a mistake ditching my Fabia vRS TSi for the CR vRS Octavia and should have bought a 2.0 TSi but when I take a short trundle home from work and pretty much return 40+ mpg every time despite how I drive it makes me think it wasnt such a bad decision after all. The TSi would have been more fun though I know that :-)

You sir make sense lol! However I find 3rd and 4th equally as good in terms of pulling power but 1st and 2nd are crap :-) Don't get me wrong I love my CR but sometimes it disapoints me against other cars but other times it surprises me. Hey, it might be my driving haha

You sir make sense lol! However I find 3rd and 4th equally as good in terms of pulling power but 1st and 2nd are crap :-) Don't get me wrong I love my CR but sometimes it disapoints me against other cars but other times it surprises me. Hey, it might be my driving haha

I know mine's DSG, but if a remapped vRS disappoints, you're being 'forced' to drive too fast

I used to own a Lupo GTI and I was always mocked when I suggested it was actually quite rapid.

on a normal road the Lupo GTI, with 6 speed Manuel, is just as quick as my standard VRS CR. I would imagine the remap would give you the advantage - but not a lot.

I have been playing catch up since getting rid of that car (family etc) and happy to be back on par with the GTIs but have all the practicality the vrs offers

I used to own a Lupo GTI and I was always mocked when I suggested it was actually quite rapid.

on a normal road the Lupo GTI, with 6 speed Manuel, is just as quick as my standard VRS CR. I would imagine the remap would give you the advantage - but not a lot.

I have been playing catch up since getting rid of that car (family etc) and happy to be back on par with the GTIs but have all the practicality the vrs offers

Its not surprising that in a car with 125hp that weighs less than a ton (about half a ton lighter than a diesel vRS). It has a superior power to weight ratio so should feel quicker in most conditions.

Christ I had a go in a mates Saxo VTS years ago, 930kg with 120hp made for an outrageously quick little motor.....no build integrity at all but bloody quick and a hoot to drive...also not officially of course but they were probably one of the first hot hatches that could do 140mph.

After my remap look at the mileage im now getting! I have the car nearly 5 years no matter how Slow I drive it never went abt 900km but this is impressive

I can't see you ever achieving that 1020km range unless you where on a 1000km long motorway and could drive consistently below 2000rpm.

I can't see you ever achieving that 1020km range unless you where on a 1000km long motorway and could drive consistently below 2000rpm.

i wont know till the end of the week but it wont be far off of 1000kms and believe me im not driving on motorways or minding the car i travel up molls gap the main rally circuit on the rally of the lakes so lot of lot gear high revs twisting turning bends

Fair play if you do. I can't get 1000kms to a tank from my remapped PD140 travelling mostly on motorways.

How are you enjoying the extra torque??

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I've had over a 1000kms to a tank in my Scout pd (650 miles), see fuelly below for proof, its not remapped though!

After my remap look at the mileage im now getting! I have the car nearly 5 years no matter how Slow I drive it never went abt 900km but this is impressive

She has seen fair amount of road my 07 Vrs has 132k km.

She has seen fair amount of road my 07 Vrs has 132k km.

560,000kms here!!

Probably explains my slightly off par fuel economy.

560,000kms here!!

Probably explains my slightly off par fuel economy.

Fair play that's great milage,has he ever been turned off lol

How am i enjoying the extra torque??..... not so good as the clutch is on the way out and is slipping when you pu the shoe down but if you feather it up and change gear at a sensible rev the torque is unreal and its really only when you over take and look in the mirror that you realise how the car flys up with little effort

Hi all,

Just wanted to post my figures from my car that's been mapped. It achieved 202bhp and 411Nm, would you say that's a good achievement or do you think its capable of more? Have you had your CR remapped and if so what figures did you get?

I only ask as I had a VW Lupo up my back side yesterday and I didn't seem to be able to leave him very easily. Maybe I could of driven the car a bit harder but even so its just a Lupo! :(

The 202bhp and 411nm figures came from a Superchips rolling road last week as I was unsure on the cars power as the original company didn't provide any print out or even a rolling road test.

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Worth noting if it was a Lupo GTi they have 125hp and weigh almost half a ton less than the Octy, probably has a very similar...maybe better power to weight ratio (Lupo can hit 60 in 7.7secs)