I have always believed that 'Learner Drivers' of Passenger Cars are not allowed on British Motorways.

But they can obviously be on 70MPH National speed limit Dual or Mulipiple Carriageways.

(Displaying 'L' plates and holding a Provisional driving licence, appropriate licence holder next to them etc.)

Is it Different for a UK Driving Test with an Examiner next to you doing an examination,

can you venture onto a 'Motorway'. ?

** There are no 'Motorways' north of Perth in Scotland.**

george

I have always believed that Learner Drivers of Passenger Cars are not allowed on British Motorways.

(Displaying 'L' plates and holding a Provisional driving licence.)

Is it Different for a UK Driving Test with an Examiner next to you doing an examination?

You're correct - you can only drive on a motorway if you hold a full driving licence, irrespective of who your passengers are...

Chris

I do not expect dirt cheap insurance but a incentive to make it worth while, it could easily be offset by increased premiums for not having some form of advanced driving qualification.

I like the idea of incentivising, but one of the hurdles with insurance is that there is insufficient statistical data to show that those who have taken further training are "safer". It was unclear whether this was down to an insufficient sample size or whether there was some other reason - it would be interesting to see the number of claims via the IAM's own Surety insurance scheme. I'm guessing it won't be zero

Actually, speaking of the IAM Surety scheme, my experience of them is that they only seem to be competitive when they price-match other quotes (which didn't offer IAM/RoSPA discount) which seems to suggest that I am not a better risk, even having done their course!?!

Chris

I have always believed that 'Learner Drivers' of Passenger Cars are not allowed on British Motorways.

But they can obviously be on 70MPH National speed limit Dual or Mulipiple Carriageways.

(Displaying 'L' plates and holding a Provisional driving licence, appropriate licence holder next to them etc.)

Is it Different for a UK Driving Test with an Examiner next to you doing an examination,

can you venture onto a 'Motorway'. ?

** There are no 'Motorways' north of Perth in Scotland.**

george

Yea your spot on as I understand it. There have been rumblings of learners getting on the UK's motorway networks for a few years now but bar a trial I don't think it has gone anywhere.

This tele link has some stats and reasons why it would be good and bad an idea. http://www.telegraph...-motorways.html

Places like you say have not got motorways available and people will never be expected to travel 200-300 miles round trip just to get a shot on a motorway. There is good logic in going on motorway as a learner but perhaps this could be controlled as in similar to motorbike multi practical tests required to obtain licence, pass current one then one for various other things like pass plus to then apply for your full licence. Still will never work for far reaching places. :(

Northern Ireland is a joke when it comes to such things, being as the DSA testing is the same as in GB I don't think it works for a different type and quality of roads. Longest motorway in NI is 35 miles long and shortest motorway in NI is 0.2 miles long, in comparison the M6 in GB is 232 miles long ffs...... Drivers upon passing their test in NI have one major difference to GB they must for a period no less than 12 months display an 'R' plate on front and back of vehicle denoting that the vehicle is restricted to 45mph (under the drivers control, no device to limit vehicle). But a restricted vehicle only allowed to do 45mph in NI IS allowed on motorways at 45mph !!! It is pure madness.

I like the idea of incentivising, but one of the hurdles with insurance is that there is insufficient statistical data to show that those who have taken further training are "safer". It was unclear whether this was down to an insufficient sample size or whether there was some other reason - it would be interesting to see the number of claims via the IAM's own Surety insurance scheme. I'm guessing it won't be zero

Actually, speaking of the IAM Surety scheme, my experience of them is that they only seem to be competitive when they price-match other quotes (which didn't offer IAM/RoSPA discount) which seems to suggest that I am not a better risk, even having done their course!?!

Chris

Adrian Flux used to work out cheapest for me for about 2 or 3 years they seemed to recognise everything possible differing levels of discount for ROSPA's Bronze/Silver/Gold, IAM, Police etc etc ROSPA Gold got me something like 15% off what at the time was still the cheapest quote I had. Then they seemed to not be as competitive later on.

I drive a 65 ft artic truck for a job..................

I undertake loads of muppets who just sit in the middle lane doing 50ish even with a truck up there back side

middle lane hoggers are a pain in the arse and need fining .......as it says in the signs,,,DONT HOG THE MIDDLE LANE

As I am blasting along at 3 figures am I right to consider anything traveling slower than me as slow moving? I have recently taken to driving in whatever lane is convienient at whatever speed I fancy and it seems by doing this you fit right in on the British motorways, no chance of being caught either as the motorway plod are too busy eating donuts....

Yea your spot on as I understand it. There have been rumblings of learners getting on the UK's motorway networks for a few years now but bar a trial I don't think it has gone anywhere.

Down in the plentiful south we have quite a few 2 & 3-lane A road dual carriageways, so learning on them is easy. :)

That is good, you would hope practice would make perfect.

http://independent.co.uk/lofe-style/motoring/motoring-news/bmw-owners-are-the-worst-drivers-1974852.html

george

Some fanny in a MKII Octavia vRS estate undertook me on the M8 in Weeg - doesn't add anything to the debate - just thought I'd mention it.

Were you hogging the outside lane?

Were you hogging the outside lane?

See other discussions of the M8; you can be in lane 1 of 3, and 5s later in lane 3 of 5 without changing lanes in one direction, and in the other direction you need to be in lane 3 of 5 simply in order to be able to stay on the M8!

Edited 29 April, 201313 yr by KenONeill

I've read the thread, it was meant to be tongue in cheek.