I've felt my DSG 7 slip the clutch in second when rolling slowly rather than selecting 1st......

I've felt my DSG 7 slip the clutch in second when rolling slowly rather than selecting 1st......

Yep the dry clutch will slow engage 2nd but the wet clutch box will slip forever if you're slow moving on an incline. In fact sometimes my mechanical sympathy kicks in and I'll manual shift it to 1st where there will be no slipping.

The difference is even wider when you consider 2nd gear ratio on a diesel 6 DSG is near to 3rd gear on a TSi 7 DSG .

Cheers

Lee

Edited 28 May, 201313 yr by logiclee

Just to clarify my DSG6 comment above - I was referring to downchanges (for acceleration); no lag (to speak of) on the vRS..

Just to clarify my DSG6 comment above - I was referring to downchanges (for acceleration); no lag (to speak of) on the vRS..

Yep that's fair enough, up changes are a dsg strong point, down changes are not. Lag isn't to big an issue on modern common rail tdi's with VNT turbos though,

Cheers

Lee

I saw someone on Twitter slagging off the Clio RS for not having a manual box and being "done with Renault" despite looking about 12. I tried to explain that even though I've yet to drive the new Clio RS that DSG type boxes are very good now. Then others waded in saying DSG isn't for a performance car and should always be manual. I bit my tongue and left it. There's a difference between a manual being more fun and satisfying over a DSG the same way a lighter, low powered car can be more fun than a 400bhp barge. Lots of lower cars have more fun aspects than my vRS does. But for speed then DSG is consistently faster. We all know it's positives. It just annoys me people still have prejudices over it even when most haven't driven it or given it chance.

I'm not a diesel fan - only had them out of necessity - but I'm not going to try and denounce them as a waste of oil and metal! It looks like the majority of people who have tried a DSG are very much in favour of it - whether or not their first experience was made better by the use of some paddles remains to be seen.

10 years ago, the only way to interact with an autobox was move the lever or occasionally use the Winter/Sport modes (used extensively on the Vectra and Omega Autos I had). Now we have intelligence and paddles..

I've had Dsg in two sciroccos one a gt the other an R the R was brilliant launch control was great I now have an A5 cab with dsg which is ok but really has to be in sport with the drive in dynamic for any punch, The Yeti is a 140 dsg which is ok for the car wish they would do the 170 with a dsg.

I saw someone on Twitter slagging off the Clio RS for not having a manual box and being "done with Renault" despite looking about 12. I tried to explain that even though I've yet to drive the new Clio RS that DSG type boxes are very good now. Then others waded in saying DSG isn't for a performance car and should always be manual. I bit my tongue and left it. There's a difference between a manual being more fun and satisfying over a DSG the same way a lighter, low powered car can be more fun than a 400bhp barge. Lots of lower cars have more fun aspects than my vRS does. But for speed then DSG is consistently faster. We all know it's positives. It just annoys me people still have prejudices over it even when most haven't driven it or given it chance.

I was 'forced' into my first auto (7speed S-Tronic), mainly because Audi like Renault dropped the manual in the S4.

I 'ummed & 'arred for ages whether I would take to it, and to be honest I went through a bit of an emotional roller coaster when I started to learn to drive with it.

I've always loved the ease of urban driving, but did't realise that to get the most out of the car using the S-Tronic would take as long as it did.

Knowing when to use D, Sport, manual or any combo in each situation actually became fun.

I reckon after 3 months and 3k I am just about there. I have had to adjust quite a bit in the way I drive (24 years of manual driving is a lot to adjust).

I must admit though I am just past the point where I think I now prefer it to a manual. The moral of the story I think is 'try it, you might actually like it'

to say "DSG isnt for a performance car " Martyn just shows them to be idiots.... how many people buy ferrari's and spec a manual box?!

Many performance and super cars are now "Auto Only" including the new 911 turbo.

BMW's own figures for the M135i suggest a 75% take up for the Auto, in some markets they have dropped the manual option, Manual 0-62 in 5.1, 35.3mpg. Auto 0-62 in 4.9, 37.7mpg.

When even the most hardened manual gearbox, rear wheel drive, limited slip diff, petrol head journo's are saying things like " It's the first gearbox that appears to have the same breadth of aspirations, in terms of performance and economy, as the average car enthusiast's brain." then I think the days of the manual box are numbered.

The top end is becoming auto only for performance reasons and at the smaller end to boost economy, eventually manuals will be a rare option.

Lee

Edited 28 May, 201313 yr by logiclee