So at 122k miles my beloved Scout has decided to go for a whistling turbo and DMF vibrations and a CV joint. All at the same time. Current estimated bill is north of £3k for a £5k car.

Stick or Twist?

Such a shame. Loved the car. Think I might be gunning for a used Yeti next.

Niall

Cut your losses mate and move on.

It's a tough one mate, easy route fix the car, hard route sell the car. Trying to sell the car with 3 major problems all your going to get is silly offers for the car. Are you willing to take a hit on it.

A 2007 Scout with 122K on it is really worth 5K?

So at 122k miles my beloved Scout has decided to go for a whistling turbo and DMF vibrations and a CV joint. All at the same time. Current estimated bill is north of £3k for a £5k car.

Stick or Twist?

Such a shame. Loved the car. Think I might be gunning for a used Yeti next.

Niall

DMF and clutch change – £400-£600

CV Joint – £120-£160

How much is a turbo? How do you get £3k?

A 2007 Scout with 122K on it is really worth 5K?

Yep, check out Autotrader. A desirable car!

DMF and clutch change – £400-£600

CV Joint – £120-£160

How much is a turbo? How do you get £3k?

A reconditioned turbo can be had for £1,000 (fitted). Genuine turbo's are reconditioned too.

So worst case scenario, a DMF for £600, CV joint for £200 plus the turbo = £1,800.

Get it all done at the same place/time and you'll likely get a healthy discount on that too...

Yep, check out Autotrader. A desirable car!

Yeah that is impressive

How do you get £3k?

Dealer Prices?

Currently seeking an independent quote.

Yep, check out Autotrader. A desirable car!

Exactly! Until today it has been a joy to own and use. Hence my reluctance to change if it can be made good again at a reasonable price. The only fear is after attending to the two 'Whens' not 'Ifs' of the 2.0PD world; what else may be in store (the DPF will fill up one day....) and will I be here again?

The flip side is that I've currently I've been offered £3k as trade in as is, which seems good.

Decisions, decisions........

Niall

If it was me, I'd probably trade it in.

But it will cost you if you want another Scout. Can you do without a Scout?

Edited 12 June, 201313 yr by booke23

Trade in at 3k? Bite their hands off and move on!

Then comes the best bit - choosing a new car.

Good luck with it all!

PS Scouts are uber-cool and hugely under-rated motors!

I would be tempted to take the trade-in and try and get the dealer to find you a Yeti in the spec and the price you want. They will want a sale and know they will sell the car you are trading in once its repaired. Double bonus for them.

Unless you want a new car id find a good indi & fix it & then keep it,a modern diesel should do 200k easily nowadays if its serviced reguarly. If the cars in good nick & nothing else wrong with it id keep it.

4x4 Yeti's can't be had for less than £13,000.

If you want a low mileage example then think upwards of £15,000.

Even a FL CR140 Scout with sensible mileage will hit you for a least $14,000.

Assuming £3,000 for the Scout that's still a lot of cash to find / finance.

Or, £1,800 and your back on the road in a car you know and love.

After the turbo and DMF all you have left is the A/C Compressor, the ABS, the DPF and the Haldex.

Hmmm, now I've listed them a few of those could be costly!

I suspect that now you've thought about it you now have the new car itch. Nothing we can will convince you otherwise now. After a test drive there will be absolutely no hope!

After much deliberation, I'm sticking.

It's a big reach to replace right now and would involve unravelling a few things I don't want to unravel just yet. None of the replacement candidates remotely in 'budget' fire me up either.

All acceptable but not quite as ideal as the Scout is for our needs.

If the new Scout were out and about it might be a different matter. But it isn't.

So haggled a good price on solving two distinct problems and will let it run for another 2-3 years at least. Yes, I could buy a 'banger' for the price of the repairs, but then you have no idea what you're getting, and the car wouldn't be as handy for me.

Having had the ABS pump done (FOC) a while back, and kept on top of Haldex servicing that leaves me with DPF and A/C. The driving I do has never shown issue with the DPF, apart from a failed EGR sensor back when it was under warranty.

So, I'm not gone from here yet..........

Niall

Good result.

I think I have just played the worst hand of automotive 'stick or twist'.........

 

Very strong vibrations under acceleration started on Weds, into garage for diagnosis, cam worn, cam buckets disintegrated, PD cam also taken out. Bill to fix also astronomical. Current value f**k all, new DMF and turbo in for all of eight weeks, bordering on feeling physically sick.

 

All the more galling as the car has been maintained to the letter from new. The 'best car I've ever had, bar none' has turned into the biggest money pit of my life to date within 4 months. All at a time when we're at the life stage of no spare money (two pre-schoolers, mum only been back at work 12 months or so and nursery bills mopping up any disposable income).

 

Any salvage value in the Xenons, OEM BT kit, towbar (inc CAN harness)?

 

So, on the basis I need a car for work, it's either fix it (and hope it all lasts a bloody long time) or see what £500 gets us off the local car lot and scrap the savings , which with hindsight I'd have been better p1ssing up a wall, or simply burning.

 

Gutted.com

 

Niall

I feel for you. :(

Ouch.

 

Have you thought of sourcing a second hand or recon head. It'll cost you much less than fixing up the old one. 

Bad news bud. Hopefully you can source some decent s/h parts to get you up and running! That really sucks, puts in to perspective people moaning about rejecting a new car cause of a few squeaks and rattles! Hope it turnsout ok

just get a recon engine put in

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-VW-SEAT-SKODA-2-0-TDI-BKD-BMM-ENGINE-05-10-SUPPLY-AND-FIT-2-0TDI-ENGINE-/181221764361?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a31a8ad09

I know this is the 1.9, but they might do a 2 litre one.  Rebuild not too much for the parts,  £400 all-in probably.

 

http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/complete-camshaft-kit-for-1-9-8v-pd-engines.html

just get a recon engine put in

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-VW-SEAT-SKODA-2-0-TDI-BKD-BMM-ENGINE-05-10-SUPPLY-AND-FIT-2-0TDI-ENGINE-/181221764361?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a31a8ad09

 

The Scout has the 8V SOHC (inc. DPF), and not the more common 16V DOHC 2.0 TDi engine.

 

Quite rare but I'm sure there will be a spare engine out there somewhere...

 

What on earth causes the cams to wear / fail!?

From what I've read online the main culprit is an inherent design issue with the PD system, followed by oil starvation and/or wrong oil for long life servicing being potential contributing factors (neither of which I have knowingly allowed).

 

Have put a few irons in the fire over the weekend and will see where that gets us.

 

Niall

Do you have full Skoda service history?

 

I know you are well out of Skoda's 5 year goodwill policy but it may be worth a shot.

 

If it can be shown that the reason for failure is incorrect oil / oil starvation then you may get some help.

 

Although it is likely even with a financial contribution it'll still be cheaper to get it fixed outside of the Skoda network...