Hi All Please Help

[lxisteve]

Firstly I am only a 1 day owner of a MK1 vRS and I'm in need of advice and help.

I have been looking for a vRS for a while and yesterday me and a mate when to view a very tidy looking one about 60 miles away from me. We are both engineers and very car savvy we did all proper checks and inspected the car, did back ground checks and took for a 10-15 mile test driver where both of us drove it and no issues what so ever. Car is on 93000 and had cam belt & water pump at skoda dealer less than 2000 miles ago and service book stamped up fully with approx 10k mile between services and receipts for oil and filter change in march. So I parted with my hard earned cash and drove it home was fine all down motorway etc a couple miles from home after giving it a bit of a boot full oil light came on so drove it steady and went off again so thought must just be a bit low. Both me and my mate checked oil several times before and after test drive and was fine. I checked it when got home and if I'm honest the vRS dipstick is pretty rubbish for actually see where the oil is but was just above the minimum so topped it up. Bearing in mind had fully checked under neither and no signs of leaks or smelling of oil. Packed car and headed away for another 60 mile journey oil light came on straight away so stopped let it settle and checked again and just to be safe put a bit more in. Headed off again and got about 3 miles down road and oil light cam on again having just gone round a roundabout then started sounding like a diesel so pulled straight over and switched off. Rung my mate who's a VAG specialist and he said could be possible oil pump !! :-( Spoke to seller he was a shocked as I was but is willing to pay at least half towards repair. My question is, is that the best I can hope for or can I make him take it back and get all my money back ?

Sorry long winded but just so gutted and angry

Cheers

Steve

[devonutopia]

Octavia or Fabia? I shall assume octavia for now as "sounding like a diesel" and move to the octavia 1 forum

[jocme]

Sorry to hear! :(

I really can't say how this works in England (laws, rules, and regulations) but to me it seems reasonable and fair that the dealer takes the car back...

Hopefully you'll get some more useful "English" reply. If you don't, perhaps you should post the message as a separate new topic.

Perhaps it's less easy noticed under "Introduce yourself"... ?

[sparks03]

Firstly I am only a 1 day owner of a MK1 vRS and I'm in need of advice and help.

I have been looking for a vRS for a while and yesterday me and a mate when to view a very tidy looking one about 60 miles away from me. We are both engineers and very car savvy we did all proper checks and inspected the car, did back ground checks and took for a 10-15 mile test driver where both of us drove it and no issues what so ever. Car is on 93000 and had cam belt & water pump at skoda dealer less than 2000 miles ago and service book stamped up fully with approx 10k mile between services and receipts for oil and filter change in march. So I parted with my hard earned cash and drove it home was fine all down motorway etc a couple miles from home after giving it a bit of a boot full oil light came on so drove it steady and went off again so thought must just be a bit low. Both me and my mate checked oil several times before and after test drive and was fine. I checked it when got home and if I'm honest the vRS dipstick is pretty rubbish for actually see where the oil is but was just above the minimum so topped it up. Bearing in mind had fully checked under neither and no signs of leaks or smelling of oil. Packed car and headed away for another 60 mile journey oil light came on straight away so stopped let it settle and checked again and just to be safe put a bit more in. Headed off again and got about 3 miles down road and oil light cam on again having just gone round a roundabout then started sounding like a diesel so pulled straight over and switched off. Rung my mate who's a VAG specialist and he said could be possible oil pump !! :-( Spoke to seller he was a shocked as I was but is willing to pay at least half towards repair. My question is, is that the best I can hope for or can I make him take it back and get all my money back ?

Sorry long winded but just so gutted and angry

Cheers

Steve

It depends on how you feel tbh. If you like the car, bought it for a good price and want to keep it hear out the dealer and see what the costs involved are. His initial offer doesn't sound so generous but at least he's acknowledging that he has liability in terms of sale of goods. Perhaps it can be negotiated once a price fitted is known or the dealer will move to paying full cost?

I think you'd be fully within your rights to reject the vehicle as being sold in an unusable state and let's face it there are plenty more Octy's in the sea Did you pay by cash/ debit or credit card? From experience the 'protection' from using a credit card will see months of time wasted before the provider opts for line of least resistance and just settles at the cost of the repair in the first place! They obviously aren't that adept with money otherwise half of them wouldn't have had to be saved by the tax payer!

[DGW]

Did you buy from a car dealer or privately?

[Raf_]

Oil pick up pipe, sounds to me that the strainer is blocked, the tapping would be oil starvation to the top end. Could be lucky and it'll be ok with a new one

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[lxisteve]

Yea sorry is an Octavia, was brought privately. Checked online there are no real laws/rights and as I mentioned we took for a 10/15 mile test drive and was fine then I drove 60 miles back and was fine. Seller has offered to pay half of repair bill he did seem an honest bloke.

I do like the car and a bit torn on what to do, but with it being a private sale think going to stick with it.

Going to get it taken to my mate who is a VAG specialist as he will fix and check of any other possible damage to bearings etc. Good thing I also have a mate who has just started up a car transporting business !

I will keep you guys informed, thank you for your replies. Yesterday was such a bad day !

[VRS Mike]

Will 100% be the oil pick up pipe being blocked, you may get lucky and have no damage to the engine. Do not drive it any further until you get the sump off and change the strainer.

[DGW]

Good luck getting the car sorted.

[lxisteve]

Thanks guys, just can't help worry done some proper damage to the top end. Literally stopped it as soon as I could which was about 30-60 seconds. And strangely yesterday oil was only reading like the minimum hence why I topped up only about 1 litre and checked it today and it seems like there's double the amount in the sump. Closer inspection of the dipstick shows a couple of small parts of the ridged have broken off, now I'm wondering if when people have viewed the car it's broken bits due to fatigue and gone down the tube and that's caused blockage to the pick up pipe. I'd put money on when my mate takes it apart there's little orange bits of plastic !

[demonufo]

Unusual for a blocked pickup to cause a low oil level in the sump though, eh!

You want to investigate this properly, including the condition of the turbo seals.

My fingers are firmly crossed for you, and I'm touching wood, but this could get a little messy...

[lxisteve]

Thanks :-) I'm keeping everything crossed...I'm so gutted...I always seem to have bad luck with cars

Last car I brought had the head gasket go a couple days later and that was brought from my old man and been in the family for like 5 years.

[sparks03]

Yea sorry is an Octavia, was brought privately. Checked online there are no real laws/rights and as I mentioned we took for a 10/15 mile test drive and was fine then I drove 60 miles back and was fine. Seller has offered to pay half of repair bill he did seem an honest bloke.

I do like the car and a bit torn on what to do, but with it being a private sale think going to stick with it.

Going to get it taken to my mate who is a VAG specialist as he will fix and check of any other possible damage to bearings etc. Good thing I also have a mate who has just started up a car transporting business !

I will keep you guys informed, thank you for your replies. Yesterday was such a bad day !

Good luck matey, fingers crossed that you get it sorted cheaply and quickly :sun:

[lxisteve]

So today both cars I own are on the back of trucks my old vectra on the way to the scrapyard in the sky and octavia on its way to The Phirm so my mate can fix her...hopefully in a couple days will know what the issue is ????

[mac11irl]

Good Luck sir, hope it is a straight forward easy repair!!

[lxisteve]

Good news finally, was oil pick up and oil pump...suspect the every 10,000 mile oil changing according to the service book stamps might not necessarily be true or very cheap oil used. Big end bearings checked and all look good and as expected for almost 100,000 miles. And no other issues found so pretty happy to be honest. My mate will hopefully be doing it tomorrow and a few little things just to make it sweet. And I'm going to treat her to a full professional valet and mop so she's look like a brand new one !! Smiles all round ????????

[lxisteve]

The question marks were meant to be smiley faces.

[DGW]

:) Be my guest! Good news.

[stig1]

I had to clean a strainer last night on one exactly the same problem , it was caked in crap but seems ok now

[mac11irl]

WooHoo!! Happy Days indeed..

[lxisteve]

I now have her back :-)...the bill is a bit hard to swallow but if the sell stays true to his word it's not too bad !

No I can start to drive her and see how good these cars can be

[Ade VRS]

Glad you got it sorted & are now happy with it. Hope you manage to get some cash back from the seller. Didnt you get 'Mates Rates' then?

Cant see an oil pump & pick up pipe costing the earth?

[amusingduck]

I now have her back :-)...the bill is a bit hard to swallow but if the sell stays true to his word it's not too bad !

No I can start to drive her and see how good these cars can be

I'd play it carefully with the seller, I'm pretty sure he has no legal responsibility to do anything about it. If you can get any money towards the repair, that's good going in my opinion.

[Bowders1]

normally oil pumps don't go in these cars the lack of regular oil changes blocks the strainer(pick up pipe) and then you get the red oil warning light due to reduced pressure and flow  caused by blocked strainer.

 

Once fixed the pressure normally comes back to life again

 

glad you got it fixed though.

 

The pick up pipe is a common replacement on these cars

 

I did a guide here perhaps for next time.

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/191103-vrs-pick-up-pipesuction-pipe-replacement/

[lxisteve]

Cheers guys, he is the big ends as well because they were showing signs of wear but because he had to check them in the grand scheme of things doesn't add a huge cost and for piece of mind as I'm planning on being the last owner of the car. Plus he did a few other things like replace rear wiper motor as knackered and replace aerial. If the seller keeps his word for the engine side and added with the money I got from scrapping my old car it'll only be a few hundred to have a very solid engine and car.

I get mates rates in terms of parts and time on payment nice instalment plan :-)