It's been a while since i've been on here posting but I am considering parting out my 105,000m Octavia. It has cost me so much money over the last 3 years (turbo, clutch/dmf, gearbox, rocker cover, EGR, IMF and the DMF needs doing again...) and has disappointed me. I am bummed as the rest of the car is in such good condition and fault free. My wives vRS has been great and covered similar mileage (102,000m)

So where to to turn to? It appears most modern diesels have lots of problems (DMF, DPF, Injectors etc). and various manufacturers have different problems:

Mazda 2.2D - Stretching chains, DMFs, DPFs that backfill the sump with diesel, poor customer services and dealers (several with CCJs against them due to the above).

VAG CR 170 - DMF issues and some people with DPF failures. Rest of it appears quite good though

Ford 2.2 TDCI- Eats injectors for fun and ford DMFs appear worse than VAGs

BMW 2.0D -It should be reliable but the tensioners can fail and BMW wash their hands of it. My colleague had a lot of electrical gremlins with his 320D touring and a replacement clutch/DMF at very low mileage

French Diesels - The engines seem good just the rest of it around it.

Nissan TDs - Based around Renault lumps and I don't like the Cashcow. Friend had lots of gremlins with his

Kia/Hyundai - Age of cars I could afford would be 89BHP models - try again!

Honda 2.2D - Seems fairly reliable and perhaps a good choice.

I only really want bluetooth as a must have (and an Estate is the next thing on my list). I have been looking at 1.8TSI Superbs as they come in much less than a TDI and less mileage to boot. I do around 17k a year and so on the cusp of petrol/diesel.

Second hand prices seem to have come up since I brought my Octavia (42k, Elegance 55 plate 2.0 TDI £8500 in 2009 - now closer to £10,000 for a similar spec).

What would you do?

Buy a 1.9 130 mk1 octy l&k and a bluetooth kit with the change lol

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Buy a 1.9 130 mk1 octy l&k and a bluetooth kit with the change lol

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Nice idea but it is smaller than my mk2 (in the rear leg room stakes) and with my second baby on the way I wouldn't want to go smaller.

Looking at slightly older German barges for me.

4yr old E Class estate. If I was doing low mileage I get an old premium barge with an enormous engine and good breakdown cover i.e. Supercharged Jag XJ.

Nice idea but it is smaller than my mk2 (in the rear leg room stakes) and with my second baby on the way I wouldn't want to go smaller.

Ooo babies then in that case a ford galaxy or s max it's quite fun trying to fit a person in between 2 baby seats otherwise lol

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If you and the wife do about the same miles and she has not had the problems you have had, could it be the way you drive thats causing the problems and not the car. I worked for a motor parts for a long time and you would not believe the storys people would tell me what they do with there cars, then complain that parts are failing. one customer told me that he loves to get some air on a hump bridge in his car on the way home from work every day and cant understand why his car fails every year on suspension parts come MOT time.

If you and the wife do about the same miles and she has not had the problems you have had, could it be the way you drive thats causing the problems and not the car. I worked for a motor parts for a long time and you would not believe the storys people would tell me what they do with there cars, then complain that parts are failing. one customer told me that he loves to get some air on a hump bridge in his car on the way home from work every day and cant understand why his car fails every year on suspension parts come MOT time.

Good theory but my wife does do less miles but we share the cars. I will routinely take her car to work (60mile round trip). I also had a 110TDI Toledo that did 65k (total 110k) under my stewardship with nothing more than routine maintenance. The BKD has never had the best reputation and so I am not surprised at my problems; just thinking it might be time to cut my losses.

The turbo never actually let go but went into limp mode alot and was replaced before it finally let go (this was when my 1st was small), DMF failure caused the input bearing on the gearbox to fail due to the vibrations and so had to be re-conditioned. EGR valve was 2 weeks after I brought it and rocker breather leaked oil. I've just been unlucky with the engine as the rest of the car has been tip-top and more than beat my expectations. If the PD130 was available in my shape Octavia I would by it in an instant!

Must be a friday afternoon car lol. I know what its it's like to have a car like that. Good luck for the next car.

Turbo?

DMF?

Clutch?

EGR?

The only remaining expense is the A/C compressor.

You are over the worst. Time to run it into the ground.

HOnda 2.2's Derv's are good - their 2.2 Diesels are just an izusu engine really. Iv heard of a few turbo related story's nothing else really.

Vag diesels are good but the DMF and DPF are such common problems.

BMW diesels are pretty solid overall.

Iirc the ford, French and Mazda engines are almost identical. All developed together...

I've heard Honda diesels are rubbish - its their petrol engines you want.

OP - did you read anything at all postive about any of the cars in your list or search purely for the internet hearsay? Cars go wrong - there'll be a lot more people sat at home entirely happy with their fault free versions of all the above cars than the minority who jump onto the internet to say all VAG CR engines are awful etc etc.

HOnda 2.2's Derv's are good - their 2.2 Diesels are just an izusu engine really. Iv heard of a few turbo related story's nothing else really.

Vag diesels are good but the DMF and DPF are such common problems.

BMW diesels are pretty solid overall.

The old Honda 1.7 diesel was an Isuzu unit, however the 2.2 engine is Honda designed and built. I've driven a CRV with that engine and I was very impressed. But they are not without their faults. Have a look on the Civinfo forum and you will see that the Civic diesel is plagued with the dreaded DMF fault. The engine on the whole is good, but is known to like a drop of oil.

There is also a new 1.6 Honda diesel on the market, but I don't have any knowledge of that I'm afraid.

Aside from that, my wife has a Civic, albeit a petrol one and its bloody awful. The interior resembles the interior of a car after a car crash and it feels very tinny in comparison to my Octavia. And the handling is awful too, very choppy but that could be down to the low profiles that are fitted.

Sorry to hear of your woes. My Octavia has been a cracking car, but my three previous cars Ford, VW & Honda were all lemons. That's why I'll be running the Octavia into the ground.

Good luck with your search.

FP.

I know an going to sound biast here but what about a volvo v70 diesel.

A petrol car? :lol:

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What about an Avensis?

Not my personal choice, but hard to fault and I know three that are showing every sign of outliving their owners.

Gaz

I put nearly 75k miles on a Mazda 6 2.2 180ps, all that went wrong was a tyre valve!

There was a recall for the timing chain so that shouldn't be an issue as long as the recall has been carried out.

Personally after getting all the expensive stuff fixed I'd be inclined to keep it.

Failing that I'd go for either a CR170 VAG motor or a Volvo.

Quite enjoying my Mazda so far and more toys on the car than you can shake a stick at......

Must be a friday afternoon car lol. I know what its it's like to have a car like that. Good luck for the next car.

Most definitely   it's a shame as my wives Fabia vRS has been great. It doesn't detract from the fact the rest of the car has been superb.

 

Turbo?

DMF?

Clutch?

EGR?

The only remaining expense is the A/C compressor.

You are over the worst. Time to run it into the ground.

 

Yup bad! The car is back in again on Tuesday for suspected failed DMF again.

 

HOnda 2.2's Derv's are good - their 2.2 Diesels are just an izusu engine really. Iv heard of a few turbo related story's nothing else really.

Vag diesels are good but the DMF and DPF are such common problems.

BMW diesels are pretty solid overall.

My colleague (who had said BMW 320D with problems) loved his Accord 2.2Derv. I did test drive an Accord estate before getting the Octavia and I did like it.

 

OP - did you read anything at all postive about any of the cars in your list or search purely for the internet hearsay? Cars go wrong - there'll be a lot more people sat at home entirely happy with their fault free versions of all the above cars than the minority who jump onto the internet to say all VAG CR engines are awful etc etc.

 

I did read good things but alot of bad things. I have tried all avenues for sensible thoughts and opinions. I try to take a pinch of salt with most things but there are some common themes. 

 

I know an going to sound biast here but what about a volvo v70 diesel.

It has been suggested the D5 has been a stunning engine and really reliable. My Dad had a D5 XC90 and the engine was a peach (apart from the horrendous lag!) and several colleagues with D5s and get great economy. My only concern is being 29 and driving a Volvo V70! However, an Octavia Estate or Superb are fine! Go figure.

 

A petrol car? :lol:

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You jest but it is becoming attractive. The savings in the purchase price versus diesel would pay for nearly a years worth of petrol. No EGR, no DPF to worry about. 

 

What about an Avensis?

Not my personal choice, but hard to fault and I know three that are showing every sign of outliving their owners.

Gaz

 

I did look at them funnily enough but they are good on residuals! Only intergalatic milers on my budget.

 

I put nearly 75k miles on a Mazda 6 2.2 180ps, all that went wrong was a tyre valve!

There was a recall for the timing chain so that shouldn't be an issue as long as the recall has been carried out.

 

It was more the DPF back filling thing to the sump which had me concerned. It would possibly be at the back of my mind and wondering when it would happen. Followed closely by the horror stories of Mazda customer services which appears to be worse than most out there. 

 

Personally after getting all the expensive stuff fixed I'd be inclined to keep it.

Failing that I'd go for either a CR170 VAG motor or a Volvo.

Well I think we will till next year (when wife goes back to work). But I need to be thinking about what I might buy in the future and what are the costs and pitfalls. 

 

 

Quite enjoying my Mazda so far and more toys on the car than you can shake a stick at......

See above, the DPF design just seems stupid!

 

thanks for everyones comments.