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Just tested 1.2 DSG - thoughts

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We only do 5k miles per year.

Family of 3 - toddler

Nippy lower down but bottoms out quickly after 45mph, perfect for the other half but I'd like something with a bit more pull, trying the 1.4 next week

The 1.8 is too expensive to run.

I take it that the 1.4 would be secondhand?

I believe the 1.4 is one of the models no longer available in the run up to the new facelift models.

I drove them back to back, the 1.4 wasn't noticeably faster to be honest

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Second hand yes

Have you thought about the Greenline if running costs are an important factor???   :think:

Have you thought about the Greenline if running costs are an important factor???   :think:

Steer clear of a diesel if mileage is 5k per annum. 

I drive a 1.2 DSG and while it lacks punch at 70+ it certainly has ample power up to 60'ish. Don't forget that the DSG "learns" your driving technigue after a few hundred miles but certainly not on a short test drive. Maybe try it again and put the selector in "S" (sport) mode then see if you like it. 

I also tried a 1.4 and 1.2 - both manual - couldn't see much difference in normal driving but as the tests were not "back-to-back" the difference would probably have had to be significant to remember the difference; anyway as I wanted an auto the 1.4 wasn't an option anyway!

Steer clear of a diesel if mileage is 5k per annum. 

I drive a 1.2 DSG and while it lacks punch at 70+ it certainly has ample power up to 60'ish. Don't forget that the DSG "learns" your driving technigue after a few hundred miles but certainly not on a short test drive. Maybe try it again and put the selector in "S" (sport) mode then see if you like it. 

I also tried a 1.4 and 1.2 - both manual - couldn't see much difference in normal driving but as the tests were not "back-to-back" the difference would probably have had to be significant to remember the difference; anyway as I wanted an auto the 1.4 wasn't an option anyway!

We had a Roomster 1.2 DSG and I thought the engine was a jewel. Tbh, I'm thinking of a 1.2 DSG Yeti when/if we change our current one. I have a set of Steels with winter tyres chains and snow socks.

John

We only do 5k miles per year.

Family of 3 - toddler

Nippy lower down but bottoms out quickly after 45mph, perfect for the other half but I'd like something with a bit more pull, trying the 1.4 next week

The 1.8 is too expensive to run.

 

Did the dealer accompany you on your test drive?

 

On the road, there's next to nothing to choose between the 1.4 manual and the 1.2 DSG, the reason being that the turbo stays on boost during gear changes in the 1.2 DSG.  But the 1.2 DSG does take a little while to learn a brisker driving style, although it responds if you put it in S mode, hence the good advice above.

 

I should imagine that most cars feel fairly staid after a Mini Cooper.

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The cooper was a 1.6 non turbo petrol 120bhp - over 10 secs 0-60 - similar acceleration to the 1.2 DSG

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Doesn't sport mode just keep the gear a little longer - probably gets quite thirsty doing that

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Driver accompanied us

Tested a 1.2 manual last week and I was surprised how much go the engine had in it for the size.

Doesn't sport mode just keep the gear a little longer - probably gets quite thirsty doing that

It sharpens up the throttle response - and hangs on to gears longer - but for a test drive it is a good way of estimating performance of the 1.2 even though I doubt you would want to drive in such a "S" sporty mode for everyday driving.

I changed from a 2.0 diesel Octavia to a 1.2 Yeti (both DSG) and in everyday driving the Yeti is better to drive than the diesel and soooo much smoother and quieter. The only time I notice the lower power is fast acceleration over 70. However, the 1.2 Yeti will cruise at motorway speeds all day with no effort at all. 

It sharpens up the throttle response - and hangs on to gears longer - but for a test drive it is a good way of estimating performance of the 1.2 even though I doubt you would want to drive in such a "S" sporty mode for everyday driving.

I changed from a 2.0 diesel Octavia to a 1.2 Yeti (both DSG) and in everyday driving the Yeti is better to drive than the diesel and soooo much smoother and quieter. The only time I notice the lower power is fast acceleration over 70. However, the 1.2 Yeti will cruise at motorway speeds all day with no effort at all. 

This seems to be true for the petrol, but the diesel just appears to hang on to gears for longer.

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Is the 1.8 extortionate to run? Very tempted..

Is the 1.8 extortionate to run? Very tempted..

If you only drive 5k per annum the extra fuel cost over the year will be small - road tax and insurance will also be more expensive. However, if you only drive 5k per annum is it really worth paying the extra when you will only be driving a few hours each week? Only you can answer that!

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Why don't they do a 1.6 tsi :(

Why don't they do a 1.6 tsi :(

A better answer would possibly be a somewhat more powerful version of the 1.4TSi - VW has more than one option in this engine capacity - to give rather more of a step-up from the 1.2TSi, but still without treading on the toes of the 1.8TSi.

Perhaps if the 1.8TSi is reworked to give around 180PS in the FL (which is available in other VW FL models and would have a nice symmetry, at least for those of us who don't think in kW), then a 140ish 1.4TSi ought to be similarly possible. (Dangerously wishful thinking, I know.)

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1.4 is too near to the 1.2 to warrant an upgrade in power and the 1.8 is a petrol guzzler :(. #imafussygit

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1.4 is too near to the 1.2 to warrant an upgrade in power...

An interesting piece of logic!

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