I think the current vRS is a big improvement over the old ones. Looks better, drives better, is bigger and they have fitted proper brakes rather than milk bottle tops.

I presume u r just talking about the petrol 1 rather than the faux 1.

You don't see cars that can do sub 8 mins at the nurburgring as performance cars?

The Octavia vrs can lap thenurburgring in less than 8 mins? Thats news to me

The Octavia vrs can lap thenurburgring in less than 8 mins? Thats news to me

I thought you were talking about the other cars

I presume u r just talking about the petrol 1 rather than the faux 1.

I'm talking about diesel as that's what I own and have owned.

Case and point on panorama tonight.

The vw would pass the test under the test conditions, ie cold engine, 20 min drive. Then it failed under the same test with a hot engine.

The zafira on the other hand couldn't even pass the official test under the correct conditions producing twice the limit of nox. Running on a hot engine it was over 3 times the limit.

They did tests running at motorway speeds, the vw was higher but not that bad, the zafira was off the scale of the measurements of the test equipment.

So as I said, people are deluded to think it's just vw affected. I wish they'd tested a megane on there as I'm sure that would have failed miserably.

Case and point on panorama tonight.

The vw would pass the test under the test conditions, ie cold engine, 20 min drive. Then it failed under the same test with a hot engine.

The zafira on the other hand couldn't even pass the official test under the correct conditions producing twice the limit of nox. Running on a hot engine it was over 3 times the limit.

They did tests running at motorway speeds, the vw was higher but not that bad, the zafira was off the scale of the measurements of the test equipment.

So as I said, people are deluded to think it's just vw affected. I wish they'd tested a megane on there as I'm sure that would have failed miserably.

Couldnt agree more.

I am sure I read online somewhere that alongside a VW two other comparable big mainstream manufacturers vehicles were tested...one was worse than the VW...the other alot worse than the other and far far worse than the VW.

VW are the tip of the iceberg...most of them are at it to some degree...juts VW were the first to get caught and are getting all the negative publicity...for now

Renault diesels, and most marques of their diesel cars came out awful.....