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Does anyone know if all the 7 speed DSG problems have been overcome in the Octavia 3?

Oh no, here we go again... :)

Jeez! I hope so, mine's due in the next few weeks !! My dealer reckons they've only ever had 2 problem DSG's, one due to trying to select reverse at speed, the other through lack of maintenance . Both were fixed under warranty he said.

I'm banking on the fact that most issues have been with 'boxes built in non European countries, and that surely VAG will have addressed all the problems by now. None of the Octy3 car reviews I've read (many, many of 'em) have been concerned with DSG reliability, so I'm fairly confident.

JKW

Why is there a problem?

I suppose, like any device, there is always going to be a meantime to failure, which we hope is a very long time. But unfortunately, there will always be the odd exception where one or more will fail early.

What I would like to say though, I have covered almost 50,000 miles in the Fabia VRS and not had a problem with the DSG box. Some members did have problems with the mechatronic control unit in the early life of their cars, but I certainly have not heard of any recent tales of woe.

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Jeez! I hope so, mine's due in the next few weeks !! My dealer reckons they've only ever had 2 problem DSG's, one due to trying to select reverse at speed, the other through lack of maintenance . Both were fixed under warranty he said.

I'm banking on the fact that most issues have been with 'boxes built in non European countries, and that surely VAG will have addressed all the problems by now. None of the Octy3 car reviews I've read (many, many of 'em) have been concerned with DSG reliability, so I'm fairly confident.

JKW

What engine have you gone for?

Oh no, here we go again... :)

 

Yawn.............

What engine have you gone for?

1.6 Tdi - I tried the 2.0 l & although impressed with it's power, opted for the 1.6 on the grounds of economy & the fact my boy racer days are past !!

JKW

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1.6 Tdi - I tried the 2.0 l & although impressed with it's power, opted for the 1.6 on the grounds of economy & the fact my boy racer days are past !!

JKW

Same setup as I am thinking of going for, how many miles you do a year?

Same setup as I am thinking of going for, how many miles you do a year?

10,000, & looking forward to each mile in my new Octy 1.6 Tdi Elegance DSG in Candy White with it's beige interior , wood trim and 3 spoke paddle shift steering wheel !! I've ordered the Spacesaver spare wheel too, but hope not to see much of that !

JKW

I highly doubt that if you go for a 2.0 TDI that would qualify you as a boy racer. ;)

If your left foot hasn't fallen off and works ok then get a manual.  Much better on economy and just works better.

 

Had a nasty incident earlier this week.  In sport mode, slowing for a roundabout, went from 3rd to 2nd (using paddles).  Rolled up to the roundabout at about 1400rpm as a car was already on it from my right and I was timing it so I didn't need to stop and could continue after it was clear.   Once clear (still rolling forward) I put my foot down (but not all way to kickdown position).  Engine revved, car went forward about 5mph, gearbox selected 1st then 2nd then 1st (the feeling was like slipping a clutch in a manual) then eventually decided to engage a gear and move forward.  

 

Only done this once but ffs this is dangerous. 

 

Not having a DSG in a diesel again.

If your left foot hasn't fallen off and works ok then get a manual.  Much better on economy and just works better.

 

Had a nasty incident earlier this week.  In sport mode, slowing for a roundabout, went from 3rd to 2nd (using paddles).  Rolled up to the roundabout at about 1400rpm as a car was already on it from my right and I was timing it so I didn't need to stop and could continue after it was clear.   Once clear (still rolling forward) I put my foot down (but not all way to kickdown position).  Engine revved, car went forward about 5mph, gearbox selected 1st then 2nd then 1st (the feeling was like slipping a clutch in a manual) then eventually decided to engage a gear and move forward.  

 

Only done this once but ffs this is dangerous. 

 

Not having a DSG in a diesel again.

 

Honest John has been talking about this kind of thing in the Daily Telegraph for some while, now, for example here.  Must have been a frightening experience!

If your left foot hasn't fallen off and works ok then get a manual.  Much better on economy and just works better.

 

Had a nasty incident earlier this week.  In sport mode, slowing for a roundabout, went from 3rd to 2nd (using paddles).  Rolled up to the roundabout at about 1400rpm as a car was already on it from my right and I was timing it so I didn't need to stop and could continue after it was clear.   Once clear (still rolling forward) I put my foot down (but not all way to kickdown position).  Engine revved, car went forward about 5mph, gearbox selected 1st then 2nd then 1st (the feeling was like slipping a clutch in a manual) then eventually decided to engage a gear and move forward.  

 

Only done this once but ffs this is dangerous. 

 

Not having a DSG in a diesel again.

 

May I be so bold as to suggest that you sell the car. Have you reported the issue to SUK or your dealer? Probably not.

 

I have never had a single problem with a DSG box as have many others.

 

If you search & use google the phrase "DSG Problems" you'll find loads of dissatisfied owners and conversely you'll find many thousands of very satisfied owners.

If you search & use google the phrase "DSG Problems" you'll find loads of dissatisfied owners and conversely you'll find many thousands of very satisfied owners.

 

As ever, I suppose that people are more likely to post brickbats than bouquets.  My limited experience of DSG, on an extended test-drive on a used Octavia II, was very positive, working no differently than the various automatics I have driven in the past.  I would certainly have no problems in ordering one.

Jeez! I hope so, mine's due in the next few weeks !! My dealer reckons they've only ever had 2 problem DSG's, one due to trying to select reverse at speed, the other through lack of maintenance . Both were fixed under warranty he said.

I'm banking on the fact that most issues have been with 'boxes built in non European countries, and that surely VAG will have addressed all the problems by now. None of the Octy3 car reviews I've read (many, many of 'em) have been concerned with DSG reliability, so I'm fairly confident.

JKW

Reverse at speed, well thats just asking for a world of hurt, what a numpty..........

If your left foot hasn't fallen off and works ok then get a manual.  Much better on economy and just works better.

 

Had a nasty incident earlier this week.  In sport mode, slowing for a roundabout, went from 3rd to 2nd (using paddles).  Rolled up to the roundabout at about 1400rpm as a car was already on it from my right and I was timing it so I didn't need to stop and could continue after it was clear.   Once clear (still rolling forward) I put my foot down (but not all way to kickdown position).  Engine revved, car went forward about 5mph, gearbox selected 1st then 2nd then 1st (the feeling was like slipping a clutch in a manual) then eventually decided to engage a gear and move forward.  

 

Only done this once but ffs this is dangerous. 

 

Not having a DSG in a diesel again.

 

Sounds like you've got a duff one.

It's only done it once (once too many I suppose).

 

Never had the problem since, always pulls away fine from standstill although that was only the 2nd time I've been in sport mode in 1300 miles as I don't like doing 4000rpm in a diesel waiting for it to figure out my throttle position is steady, I don't want to accelerate, please change friggin gear.

 

As it's a lease car there's not much I can do, if it does it again I'll take it to Skoda.  If they can't do anything and it becomes a repeat offender then I'll reject the car and go for a manual VRS.

No take it to Skoda, the cars memory system should have retained any faults/issues with the gearbox. It may have had an electronic "Hiccup" need a reset, mine did and after that all was well & good until I sold it. 

 

You may not be used to the way that it works either and sometimes you do need to anticipate your next move or why not select S and do it yourself.

I've got a '61' reg Jetta hire car at the moment with the 2.0TDI and the 6-speed DSG. I've noticed a real pause a couple of times when pulling onto a roundabout. I suspect I need a few days to get used to it's limitations and adjust my driving style to suit.

 

I've also noticed a real jerkiness when accelerating gently at times. It's like the change points of the gearbox don't always fit in the power band of the engine, so sometimes it drops out of the band when it changes gear, sometimes it's right in the middle of it.

 

I didn't notice either of these when I test drove the Octavia (although I may not have driven it long enough to pick up on the first one). Hopefully they've matched the gearbox and engine better, so it's less of an issue.

No take it to Skoda, the cars memory system should have retained any faults/issues with the gearbox. It may have had an electronic "Hiccup" need a reset, mine did and after that all was well & good until I sold it. 

 

You may not be used to the way that it works either and sometimes you do need to anticipate your next move or why not select S and do it yourself.

It was in S.

 

I was approaching the roundabout, manually changed into 2nd but when I went to accelerate nothing happened for a couple of seconds.  The engine revved away, it changed gear a couple of times itself (without giving any drive).  Then all normal again.

From someone who has never experienced that particular  behavouir.

And extrapolating from the fact that I leave the selector in "Drive" 90+ % of the time and NEVER use the manual  over-ride.

I would likely conclude that yourself (and others) have simply confused the transmission, by thinking you know better.

It could also be that I watch the traffic, hang back on a trailing throttle as I approach, then smoothly and continuiously accelerate.

In this respect the DSG is faultless

I am also aware that others come off and on the throttle intermittently.

In the case of a manual little odds.

In the case of a DSG with predictive alogroithms at work, it sends very mixed signals, thus causing the transmission to "freeze" until it can decide wtf the driver wants.

Cheers

Marcus

I've only driven a DSG6 + TDi for a couple of days and wasn't impressed (in a Golf); much prefer the petrol + DSG7.  I tried a rapid acceleration manoeuvre on a motorway (pull out to overtake) and as I pulled out and gave it some more throttle, I had to wait what seemed ages whilst it changed down 2 gears and then the turbo came in.  Perhaps it was because I was used to the instant wall of torque on my twincharger...a Scirocco 1.4/160PS + DSG7 at the time (although it was in with VW for its engine rebuild at the time).  

 

The DSG7 I have in the vRS seems much better than the one in the Scirocco; slightly lower gearing meaning it doesn't keep slipping the clutch in 2nd at very slow speed (like the Scirocco did).

 

As for the predictive nature of the box, it's clever..but can only respond to what you do rather than who you might want to do.  That's when the paddle come in handy ;)

But since you have control of what you know  you want to do, by planning ahead, using roadcraft and anticipitation.

Why not feed that information to the cars "brain" via the throttle pedal.

Thus keeping both hands on the wheel.

But!

Dammn!, some of younz got the steering wheel paddles!

I find the rare occassion I use "S" is for anticipated (the only kind I do obviously) overtaking.

When I also anticipate the known fractional delay by planting the throttle the necessary fraction of a second earlier.

I can afford to do this cos I hang back a little and am accelerating up to speed into the gap I have left myself, so as to have a bit of "way" on when I commit.

Smooth is smooth.

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