Evening all, sorry to post up on this forum considering I'm referring to my Ibiza Cupra TDi (did own a Fabia SDi beforehand though! ) Sadly not getting much response from SEAT Cupra.net

 

Since we have similar engines I was hoping someone might advise on what hybrid turbo to choose.

 

Ideally I'm looking for around 260 bhp/350-370 lbs ft. I was hoping that I might have my PD 160 turbo re worked to produce the above figures if possible? Not too keen on buying a brand new off the shelf turbo or swapping from the VNT turbo across to one which requires an aftermarket manifold, costly!

 

Any ideas? Thanks

For 260bhp you need to be looking at GTB2260vk turbo really.  Full conversion is probably £3-£4k including manifold, exhaust. turbo and mapping.   Would be a very comfortable 260bhp though.  The most you can expect from a hybrid VNT17 (pd150) turbo is about 240bhp when pushed/stressed hard.

Aren't the standard injectors pretty much at their limit with 240ish bhp?

I was looking at around £1000 for a set of injectors and another £1000 for a helix clutch.

Aren't the standard injectors pretty much at their limit with 240ish bhp?

 

 

With GTB2260vk you can push for a little bit more as the turbo can push more boost than any VNT17 hybrid.

With GTB2260vk you can push for a little bit more as the turbo can push more boost than any VNT17 hybrid.

Makes sense - kind of wish I'd gone for the 2260 over my hybrid 150. But then again it's knowing where to stop!

Maybe next year!

For 260bhp you need to be looking at GTB2260vk turbo really.  Full conversion is probably £3-£4k including manifold, exhaust. turbo and mapping.   Would be a very comfortable 260bhp though.  The most you can expect from a hybrid VNT17 (pd150) turbo is about 240bhp when pushed/stressed hard.

Darkside seem to think a max of 310 from the 2260? Not to keen on the expenditure though!

Yup in the real world a hybrid 150 turbo wont push past 210/220 bhp any more and the rr is over-reading!

All depends on your balance

As you have a cupra 160 you already have a fmic

For relaitvely little you can just get a hybrid 150/160 turbo (you will need a performance clutch + remap)

And thats you

For any more bhp your talking about doubling the cost of a hybrid 150/160

Darkside seem to think a max of 310 from the 2260? Not to keen on the expenditure though!

 

yeah, with plenty of other supporting mods.  I am just saying it will do a comfortable 260, compared to a stressed out smaller hybrid turbo.

yeah, with plenty of other supporting mods.  I am just saying it will do a comfortable 260, compared to a stressed out smaller hybrid turbo.

Ah right, I'm with you, sorry.

So when company's talk about supporting mods, what are they referring too? FMIC, clutch, exhaust etc. any more ?

Cams, head work, injectors, inlet manifold, map sensor, TIP all things I assume might need looking at? 

With these bigger turbos, wouldn't there be a big increase in lag? Can't say I'd fancy losing the driveability for some more ponies personally....  Or are these some fancy turbos to help avoid the lag?

I noticed a bit of lag on my pd150 hybrid last night. Always happens when your trying to show off doesn't it :P

Didn't fancy launching it at high revs - trying to preserve the clutch for now!

When you have a good clutch, you don't worry about this

 

You get lag, just like when you fit a big turbo to a petrol car, but you just need to drive around.  a 2260 will never tail off until the redline either.

I've a bit more lag since my hybrid 150 was fitted Dan. I like the way it kicks in, but it does catch me out occasionally when I'm at low revs in 2nd and I attempt to put my foot down! Hence why I don't think I could live with more lag as a daily...

 

A 2260 would be awesome when driven flat out I'm sure though :-) !

I've a bit more lag since my hybrid 150 was fitted Dan. I like the way it kicks in, but it does catch me out occasionally when I'm at low revs in 2nd and I attempt to put my foot down! Hence why I don't think I could live with more lag as a daily...

A 2260 would be awesome when driven flat out I'm sure though :-) !

I've only really noticed it in first gear when pulling away or something. I suppose I should get a decent clutch and make full use of my launch control :P

I've only really noticed it in first gear when pulling away or something. I suppose I should get a decent clutch and make full use of my launch control :p

 

Need to meet up and see this beast of yours soon Dan! Think we've got the same/very similar turbo setup now. Need to get my clutch and FMIC sorted!! So many things to do to it though....  I currently have no grille on it - being sprayed at long last!

 

Is that launch control really worth it do you reckon?

In short going from stock to +/- 260hp is likely to cost you about the value of your car! 

Need to meet up and see this beast of yours soon Dan! Think we've got the same/very similar turbo setup now. Need to get my clutch and FMIC sorted!! So many things to do to it though.... I currently have no grille on it - being sprayed at long last!

Is that launch control really worth it do you reckon?

We should mate, before the winter draws in! Sounds as though it is very similar. I've got a FMIC but no updated clutch currently, I'm just careful with the way I drive it!

Not used the launch control to launch tbh, it's set at 2,800rpm and is more of a gimmick than anything for me

Yup in the real world a hybrid 150 turbo wont push past 210/220 bhp any more and the rr is over-reading!

All depends on your balance

As you have a cupra 160 you already have a fmic

For relaitvely little you can just get a hybrid 150/160 turbo (you will need a performance clutch + remap)

And thats you

For any more bhp your talking about doubling the cost of a hybrid 150/160

Don't fancy the idea of spending out a hell of a lot on chasing bhp. Best spent on suspension and an LSD I reckon. Thanks for the info though.