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Been thinking about whether to hang on to the Yeti or not; basically itchy feet having been 3 years since ordering the current beast.

 

Would like to stay with the Yeti, however I'm put off by the new look as most are aware. Could stay with the current one but as I say I'm getting that itchy feet feeling, which I could disguise with various excuses but I'm not. I've have even been trying to quell the idea of a new motor by doing work on the Yeti to keep it in top form.

 

Unfortunately I've let my guard slip and started exploring the options in the Skoda range on a replacement for the current beast. Had thought of a Spaceback or a petrol 2wd Octavia III to keep costs down but I know from past experience I quickly find myself missing 4x4. No idea why, as I mainly drive on the highway and only occasionally do I go off the tarmac; current Yeti is my 5th four wheel drive car. So to be on the safe side I decided the only real option was the new Octy III estate 4x4 if I was to stay with Skoda and not be getting itchy feet all to quickly.

 

Now initial enquiries suggested I'd have to spend a lot more than I liked, particularly adding the ludicrously expensive xenon pack. However I may have found a deal  that's exactly where I wanted to be on an optioned factory order Octy 4x4 (albeit without the fancy lights) but I'm still unsure about taking that final step out of Monster ownership, for two simple reasons; the Octy depreciates more than a Yeti, so a greater cost to change next time round and I'm looking at the 1.6tdi 4x4 to keep those costs down. On paper the 1.6 just about matches my current 110 4x4 in output/performance, however the 110 is detuned against the 105 being at high tune :wonder: Not one normally bothered by performance and often it's me holding everyone else up by staying within the prescribe limits and I was happy with the 1.6 engine in a long term loan Octy II albeit 2wd but having not driven one with 4x4 I just have that nagging doubt; so far the only demo I've found is in Belfast, which is a bit far for a trip round the block so to speak.

 

 

So quite some thinking to do but I might end up leaving the Monster fold after 4 years of hanging around this excellent forum.

 

TP

 

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Personally TP, I'd want to drive a 4x4 1.6tdi before taking the plunge. I've driven the new models fairly extensively now and I've found the 1.6tdi to be an ok motorway cruiser although the 2 litre has more when you want it - goes without saying really BUT I do wonder how the 1.6 will go when it's carrying some weight - I suspect the mpg will suffer compared to a loaded up 2 litre and the awd is going to carry increased transmission losses. If you are fairly sedate then it may well be adequate but I can't help thinking the awd losses will just take that little bit too much away from the overall straight line performance. The octy 3 is a cracking car though IMO so what ever you do you'll win out. :)

Oh dear.  Another one of the Yeti Pioneers falling by the wayside?  :(

Taxi for TP? :)

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Personally TP, I'd want to drive a 4x4 1.6tdi before taking the plunge. I've driven the new models fairly extensively now and I've found the 1.6tdi to be an ok motorway cruiser although the 2 litre has more when you want it - goes without saying really BUT I do wonder how the 1.6 will go when it's carrying some weight - I suspect the mpg will suffer compared to a loaded up 2 litre and the awd is going to carry increased transmission losses. If you are fairly sedate then it may well be adequate but I can't help thinking the awd losses will just take that little bit too much away from the overall straight line performance. The octy 3 is a cracking car though IMO so what ever you do you'll win out. :)

 

Yes that's what's concerning me, the occasional long haul fully loaded, as I do venture abroad once in a while on my hols.

 

Also discovered that the 105 possible still has a five speed box even in 4x4 guise :S Skoda UK literature says five, owners manual which I used for my research states 6 but one dealer I've just spoken too is convinced it's 5, which I thinks seals it's fate to the idea discarded bin, unless I wish to find the extra 900 for the bigger lump plus added associated costs.

 

 

TP

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Taxi for TP? :)

 

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

Mind I've had three taxi's already :giggle:

 

 

TP

For sure the Octy 3 looks a fine car - I'm being drawn towards a VRS Estate myself! :wonder:

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For sure the Octy 3 looks a fine car - I'm being drawn towards a VRS Estate myself! :wonder:

 

That thought had crossed my mind also; not yet owned a vRS :doh:

 

However no 4x4 and like my previous Golf Sport TDI 4motion it's not got a lot of ground clearance for the odd dirt track adventure or fall of snow on the Wold top.

 

 

TP

Not an Octi, but I sat in a Rapid at the dealers last week, and was shocked how low it was, compared to the Yeti. Not sure I'd be happy with that.

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Not an Octi, but I sat in a Rapid at the dealers last week, and was shocked how low it was, compared to the Yeti. Not sure I'd be happy with that.

 

Yes they are lower, although for £150 you can increase the ride height of the 4x4 to 155mm from the standard 140, also adds under armour as well, so a good value option, compared with the Yetis £200 for armour and stronger rear brake pipes.

 

 

TP

For sure the Octy 3 looks a fine car - I'm being drawn towards a VRS Estate myself! :wonder:

nice car, I finally got a TSi for an extended test drive last Saturday and its moved on by quite some margin. The TDi is nice also but where as that seems to have been made 25% better than the old 170 Tdi VRS, the TSi VRS seems to be 50% better than the old tsi now! However... I too would miss the awd capability of my Yeti and the Octavia 4x4 I had previously. The main reason I sold the octy mk2 VRS in fact was down to it not being able to put the power down nicely. Then I got back in my car and just realised how well it went compared to the 220ps VRS so for those two reasons... I'm out! I think you'd regret getting a fwd car TP and tbh I think you'd kick yourself for not going for the 2 litre 4x4 when off on your euro jaunts. Also just how many other cost differences are there between the 1.6 and 2.0 4x4's?
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Also just how many other cost differences are there between the 1.6 and 2.0 4x4's?

 

Not many really in the grand scheme of things, a bit more annual car tax and insurance maybe and who knows on fuel, might actually be better despite the book figures with working that bit less :wonder:

 

Think your pushing me into an Octy 150 4x4; bit more go than my 110 or 140 before, could be intresting :giggle:

 

 

TP

TP

 

Surely you need to see a FL Yeti in the flesh before dismissing it out of sight (literally)?

Not many really in the grand scheme of things, a bit more annual car tax and insurance maybe and who knows on fuel, might actually be better despite the book figures with working that bit less :wonder:

 

Think your pushing me into an Octy 150 4x4; bit more go than my 110 or 140 before, could be intresting :giggle:

 

 

TP

that sounds like a good call to me and the 150ps unit isn't far off the older 170tdi in the lighter Octavia 3 IMO. Be interested to hear what you honk if you do test drive it. :)

I'd drive one first, and insist on a test drive.

I think you'd find the 1.6 sluggish and thirsty coupled with 4x4.

I'd also look at MGV figures as typically 4x4 Octavia aren't in demand by the public

Hi TP

If you do leave I hope you get great enjoyment from what ever replacement you get.

I would like to thank you as many of your posts have given me a great deal of enjoyment and assistance in my Yeti ownership and I feel you will be missed by quite a few Yeti owners.

 

All best Bob

Have to echo Bob above. Thanks TP for everything you have done to help us all with the Yeti; but thanks most for being TP.

I'm also toying with a switch to an Octy 4x4 myself. A recent week of the Yeti in the garage for an airbag fault and 3 attempts to fix is making me think it's worth changing before warranty runs out. Tried a Furby estate with the1.6 while the Yeti was being fixed and missed the 6th gear and extra power, so it would have to be the larger engine. The larger boot of Octy is tempting given Yeti a squeeze for a family of 4 at holiday time, but downsides I suspect I'd miss the higher driving position and wonder if depreciation would be worse - what if there was to be another Vat free offer in a year or so time when Octy is no longer a new model?

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I'd drive one first, and insist on a test drive.

I think you'd find the 1.6 sluggish and thirsty coupled with 4x4.

I'd also look at MGV figures as typically 4x4 Octavia aren't in demand by the public

 

Can you please expand on MGV :wonder:

 

Otherwise as in post one I'm very aware that the demand for the Octy 4x4 in the UK is low and is one of the reasons I've as yet not committed to taking the Octy route. Shame really as the good people out there buying the run of the mill 2wd don't know what there missing ;)

 

Very difficult to gauge the retained value as non Scout Octy II 4x4 are like hens teeth to find and with the Octy III I've only seen one demo 150 4x4 advertised and that went fairly quickly and one 1.6 over in Belfast, which is still for sale. Having spoken to a number of dealers many where not aware it came just as an SE estate, or could find full details of the raised ride hight option on their system it's so new; therefore chances of a test drive in the sec I'm considering are about nil.

 

I have however driven over 100 miles in an Octy III SE 1.4TSI hatch, which I liked, apart from the rear torsion beam suspension making it's presence felt; not an issue mind with the 4x4 independent set-up.

 

 

Regards and thanks,

 

TP

Minimum Guaranteed Value.

Might be worth asking in the Octavia 2 section what theirs were, car cost and what they actually got px.

Yes that's what's concerning me, the occasional long haul fully loaded, as I do venture abroad once in a while on my hols.

 

Also discovered that the 105 possible still has a five speed box even in 4x4 guise :S Skoda UK literature says five, owners manual which I used for my research states 6 but one dealer I've just spoken too is convinced it's 5, which I thinks seals it's fate to the idea discarded bin, unless I wish to find the extra 900 for the bigger lump plus added associated costs.

 

Go for the 2.0 litre for the six speed box...

 

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TP

 

Surely you need to see a FL Yeti in the flesh before dismissing it out of sight (literally)?

Hi aero,

 

very good to hear from you and I hope your keeping well :yes:

 

With the FL I've applied the old adage it it looks right then generally it is right and sadly to my eye the new Yeti is not. Will admit to being wrong on the Superb FL but I've taken much more interest and studied the new Yeti in as much detail as one can form behind a computer, as we both did back in 09 and it just is not for me. 

 

It may be I continue to run my faithful beast quite a while yet but the Octy is tempting :think: As otherwise theres little out there currently that's remotely interesting.

 

 

Regards as always,

 

Tim.

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Minimum Guaranteed Value.

Might be worth asking in the Octavia 2 section what theirs were, car cost and what they actually got px.

 

Are yes of course :doh:  :giggle:

 

 

Thanks again,

 

TP

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Go for the 2.0 litre for the six speed box...

 

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As above it's very tempting now Yeti-Man has pointed me in the right direction and resolved one issue ;)

 

So I just have the retained value one to resolve and I suppose it's a simple case of do I like the thing enough to take the potential hit on the wallet or not :wonder: and will I enjoy driving it as much as I have the Yeti.

 

With the 150 motor and Haldex V with XDS it's certainly got potential to be a very good drivers car.

 

 

TP

One thing is for sure as you quite rightly already mentioned, the MkII Octavia 4x4 is as rare as rocking horse poo.

 

Even the relatively popular Scout (compared to the 4x4) demands a huge premium over the 2wd Octavia's and they hold their value on the used market exceptionally well.

 

I can't see any reason why the MkIII 4x4 would be adversely affected, although I'd be tempted to head down the route of the 2.0 litre engine as this is likely to be the more popular choice. Two members have already taken delivery of their 2.0 4x4's.

 

Is the weight of the 1.6 TDi MkIII Octy 4x4 much different to that of the Yeti (to gauge performance)?

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