I believe fiat were the first to fit these and VAG only followed suit. If I had them on my car I would disable them straight away, removing the fog bulbs if need be, they look stupid along with those daft LED DRLs! I see VAG don't install those cheap looking things on VWs. Only skoda and seats.

I believe fiat were the first to fit these and VAG only followed suit. If I had them on my car I would disable them straight away, removing the fog bulbs if need be, they look stupid along with those daft LED DRLs! I see VAG don't install those cheap looking things on VWs. Only skoda and seats.

 

 

 

I think you'd be quite satisfied if you saw my vRS Octy approaching you . :sun:  

Edited 3 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

Main bug bare now with some peoples Cornering Fog Lights.

 

You are going up a dark road, maybe in town, maybe in the countryside.

Your side of the road is clear, you have your Head & Side lights on.

 

So you see a car or vehicle parked on the other side,

cars coming towards you,  they stop behind the car on the other side,

they give you right of way, 

as you approach and see the first car on the otherside and pass the parked vehicle,  the first vehicle waiting inches forward, steering ready to overtake the car,

He had on Sidelight, Head Light, maybe the Indicator, then on comes a Fog Light.

No fog light, then there is an extra light, a Fog light comes on

 

1 Fog Light coming on directed towards or at you, so no problem, well it should not be.

But some d1ck heads have Fog Lights with uprated non Fog Light bulbs.

So that shines at you, and maybe the car behind waiting to follow him has the same thing, it shines towards you.

(often no Indcator used, just a Fog Light showing they intend changing direction or are turning the steering.).

 

Some drivers just do not think, where these lights are coming on and who or where they are shining at.

 

T-W-A-T Lights,

 'This way and that', as you turn your steering.  Regardless if it is an inappropriate time to shine a Fog Light.

 

Fog Light in Yellow are quite effective, lets people know they are for use where Visibility is poor and Fog Lights should be used.

 

george

I'm actually quite suprised to see your such late entry into this discussion George.

 

Hang on while I just draw up my rocking chair and tub of popcorn please. 

 

Bun anyone?

Had one of those last night.

Dark and frosty road, clear night

 

Me going slightly uphill, all fine then just as i am passing, a full blown Spot Light comes on right in my line of vision at the last seconds.

That can happen and you then do not see a Pot Hole, Mising Drain Cover, Pedestrian or the likes.

 

Why the Highway Code says do not Dazzle Others, 

Switch off Fog Lights when no longer Required,

Maybe Use Fog Lights when Visibility is less than 100 meters,

 ** No mention of use them to make other Visibility worse.**  Even if EU Legal to Fit and use.

 

Picture is taken exactly where it happened last night,

Winter Day Time it is a place the Winter Sun can blind you as you climb & crest the incline,

Night time someone is not expecting to have a light turned on at them or should not need to have.

Obstruction was the Right, cars stopped behind waiting to pass it,.

there is Street Lighting, but some think a Fog Light with Brighter Bulb coming on is OK in a town

Flashed my foglights on and off several times at an oncoming car last night as they were actually a distraction.

 

Numb skull behind the wheel obviously thought I was just saying hello, as it had no effect whatsoever. 

Edited 3 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

It's always the same two 'haters'.

 

Front cornering lights, front fog lights, LED DRL's, high level brake lights, LED brakelights, xenon headlights, LED headlights - they are all here to stay whether you old luddites like it or not.

 

If something like a cornering fog light is enough to distract you then the advancement of modern vehicle lighting would be the least of my worries over meeting either of you coming the other way.

 

I find it quite amusing that you both drive the vRS versions of the Fabia and Octavia, two VAG vehicles fitted with some of the brightest DRL's on the road

...they look stupid along with those daft LED DRLs! I see VAG don't install those cheap looking things on VWs. Only skoda and seats.

 

The following xenon-equipped VW's all have LED DRL's...

 

VW Polo

VW Golf

VW Scirroco

VW Passat

VW Passat CC

VW Touran

VW Sharan

VW Tiguan

VW Toureg

VW Caravelle

VW Amarok

 

So pretty much the entire VW range then.

 

Cornering Fog lights are the subject,

 

I notice someone keeps saying time after time they come on with the Dipped Headlight,

but clearly many work with cars with Sidelights on and no dipped headlights on.

 

Always the same person that defends them,

then starts on about other lights, modern lights, different subject.    

 

The new lights might be here to stay.  Pity more and more everyday are faulty.

 

I can not believe just how many drive with bulbs or lights out now, broken, non operative, bust.

either too tight or too stupid to get them working properly.

Not cheap cars, just ones beyond their pocket possibly, maybe leased, their knowledge of maintaining a car maybe limited.

 

george

Cornering Fog lights are the subject,

 

I notice someone keeps saying time after time they come on with the Dipped Headlight,

but clearly many work with cars with Sidelights on and no dipped headlights on.

 

No they don't.

Always the same person that defends them.

 

Not just me, the majority of posters in this thread in fact.

 

Defending or disliking them is irrelevant.

 

The OP asked what they were and how they worked. I answered the OP's question.

 

Then the small minority of haters arrived just to say how annoying and pointless they think they are. Change the subject.

 

How about hanging up your 'thread spoiling' gloves for a change?

The following xenon-equipped VW's all have LED DRL's...

 

VW Polo

VW Golf

VW Scirroco

VW Passat

VW Passat CC

VW Touran

VW Sharan

VW Tiguan

VW Toureg

VW Caravelle

VW Amarok

 

So pretty much the entire VW range then.

 

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the golf and polo 'so that I've seen have a dim dip DRLs running from the dipped headlights. Anyhow still horrible and the first thing I'd do is disconnect them.

Also just to bring the post back on topic, turning fog lamps look cheap and make any car they are fitted too cheap and nasty. I'd disconnect them the day I got the car if they are fitted, just a cheap mans version of a citroen invention (so I'm told)

Re Cornering Fogs, on with just Sidelights,

or no lights, obvious the cars driving that do work that way do.  People tend to do what they want.  How can anyone say 'Never'. 'Does not happen'.

 

The Golf is moddified, they are non standard headlights. How can the manufacturer be held to account for aftermarket alterations?

 

I'm sure I could wire my car to use main beam to perform the role of cornering lights if I wanted to. This still wouldn't make the concept of legitimate and legally functioning lighting any different.

the golf and polo 'so that I've seen have a dim dip DRLs running from the dipped headlights. Anyhow still horrible and the first thing I'd do is disconnect them.

Also just to bring the post back on topic, turning fog lamps look cheap and make any car they are fitted too cheap and nasty. I'd disconnect them the day I got the car if they are fitted, just a cheap mans version of a citroen invention (so I'm told)

 

Most of the VW range have normal incandescent DRL's as with Skoda and Seat. Only those models with expensive optional xenon or bi-xenon headlights tend to get the LED DRL's so are remain relatively rare on VW's.

 

Early Polo's did indeed use dipped headlights which is why you see so many of them driving around with sidelights on as this is the only way the driver can turn off the headlights.

 

I don't think I've ever seen a "cheap and nasty" feature added by the manufacturer from the factory, only those fitted after purchase such as the headlights on the Golf in the video above, but each to their own I guess.

silver1011,

That is not what your post #12 says, ' work under 30 mph Dipped Headlight must be on.' (paraphrase.)

Just a general statement as i read it, as you say every thread you say it in.

 

The subject is not always VW or Standard, or not modified,  

it is Modified that often cause the reaction of other drivers.

Plonkers putting Stronger Bulbs in Fog Lights and having the Cornering Fog Lights Enabled.

Plenty of them around.

 

I said that 'But many work clearly with sidelights on & no dipped headlights on, you said,   'No they dont'.

 

There are standard new cars with Cornering Sidelights functioning with only Sidelights switched on.

Answers on a self addressed envelope.

George,

 

VAG cornering foglights only work as I described. There may be some slight differences across the various manufacturers but none of them work without dipped headlights.

 

If someone decides to modify their cars lighting or buy non approved patterned parts (as in your example) and controvene the regs then so be it but then they aren't cornering fog lights, you are then well within your rights to call them **** lights or whatever it is you choose to refer to them as.

Edited 3 December, 201312 yr by silver1011

You keep describing what you want to describe and ignore what else is out there.

 

They do where they do,

i start to wonder if you actually drive in the dark or just where you drive nobody has them.

Do you never see anyone with uprated bulbs in Fog Lights.?

& in Cornering Fog lights?

 

Why do people not have the gumption to have them disabled when not required,

*have a switch which has 'on' & 'off' , not a need to have enabled always.* Or Disabled, no other choice.

 

Off when not required, just Side, Dipped or Full beam is all that is required,

Fog lights front and back have 'On' Off' & Off when on Full Beam. (Mostly)

which is enough almost all the time when they are not out on some dark country road,

 

Do you have them working all the time, even in towns.

 

george

Mine, as with the vast majority of everyone else's works as the manufacturer (Skoda) intended. Refer to post 12 (the one with all the 'likes').

 

As a result they only operate when required and don't operate when not required - they provide useful additional visibility during slow speed manoeuvres.

 

The bulbs fitted to my fog / cornering fog lights are the same as those fitted from the factory and therefore don't dazzle or distract.

 

I also appreciate they won't be to everyone's tastes, they are of little use in built-up areas or on well lit roads, hence the reason Skoda provide the customer with the option to turn them on or off.

 

If you witness the likes of the Golf's lights in the video more often than properly working factory standard lights then I can only assume that you need to spend less time in McDonald's car parks.

It's always the same two 'haters'.

 

Front cornering lights, front fog lights, LED DRL's, high level brake lights, LED brakelights, xenon headlights, LED headlights - they are all here to stay whether you old luddites like it or not.

 

If something like a cornering fog light is enough to distract you then the advancement of modern vehicle lighting would be the least of my worries over meeting either of you coming the other way.

 

I find it quite amusing that you both drive the vRS versions of the Fabia and Octavia, two VAG vehicles fitted with some of the brightest DRL's on the road

 

 

Hi!!  :sun:

 

DRL's disabled actually, as are the winking foglights!

Whoopdeewhoop from smugsville.

 

Do carry on. 

Edited 3 December, 201312 yr by Mr Ree

I disabled the cornering fog lights on my vRS too because they didn't work, weren't bright enough.

http://www.lightmare.org/What_you_say.htm

 

Major place i see the Cornering or Static Cornering Fog lights functioning is the Tesco or Asda car parks,

Female Drivers of a New or nearly new VW Polo, DRL's on and Static Cornering Fog Lights.

 

I see these same cars going up the road in town, often in poor light conditions,

happy as Larry, front DRL's functioning , cornering Fog Lights, & no rear lights on.

(Are these Faulty Systems?)

Kia's, Fiats, & other Manufacturers models, DRL's or Sidelights on & Cornering Fog Lights.

 

Is that just some VW Dealership in Tayside Enabling them so as they work without the requirement to have 

the Dipped Beam on?

Or will i get told these are Cornering DRL's and not the DRL & Static/Cornering Fogs.

 

george

An example of another person (singular) having a moan and blaming the poor copper for doing his job.

 

The same person who admitted in the same rant to driving around with his fog lights on when it wasn't foggy.

 

Driving around with front fogs on when it isn't foggy is a bookable offence. Correctly functioning cornering fog lights isn't. Simple.

 

Remember when DRL's were introduced and the abundance of threads about members being pulled over for having their front fog lights on when in fact they were the DRL's?

 

My cornering fog lights are great, legal and staying tuned on

http://www.lightmare.org/What_you_say.htm

 

Major place i see the Cornering or Static Cornering Fog lights functioning is the Tesco or Asda car parks,

Female Drivers of a New or nearly new VW Polo, DRL's on and Static Cornering Fog Lights.

 

I see these same cars going up the road in town, often in poor light conditions,

happy as Larry, front DRL's functioning , cornering Fog Lights, & no rear lights on.

(Are these Faulty Systems?)

Kia's, Fiats, & other Manufacturers models, DRL's or Sidelights on & Cornering Fog Lights.

 

Is that just some VW Dealership in Tayside Enabling them so as they work without the requirement to have 

the Dipped Beam on?

Or will i get told these are Cornering DRL's and not the DRL & Static/Cornering Fogs.

 

george

George,

 

to comply with legal requirements cornering lights fitted by the manufacturer cant be on with without dipped lights in the same way DRLs wont be on with dipped lights.

 

Aftermarket is a whole different matter, but hopefully the MOT will catch up with this as they are with HIDs.

 

As for lightmare, the less said the better

Hard to understand where you think shining one Fog Light at people every time you turn your steering wheel at under 30 mph with your dipped beam on is somehow different from someone shining 2.

 

If the person with 2 on is waiting to come passed some thing covering the passenger side, you see their light on.

Yours comes on randomly.

Turn your wheel, shine a light! Nice and bright, looks like sharn, but hey Ho.

 

Each to their own. As we always decide.

 

george