Idiot youngest brother has picked up his first speeding ticket (37 in a 30). All seems to be a bit of a laugh and joke as far as he's concerned. Has quite happily put on his FB that it's because it had been a very long day and he wasn't paying attention as he was quite tired. (Birmingham and back to see a concert) Which does seem to me to place it into "Driving Without Due Care and Attention" (IMHO) which carries a greater penalty.

 

He's put the NIP on FB too, so I have a reference number, and would rather like for him to actually appreciate the gravity of the situation instead of it being just a big joke.

To be honest if that is what he is like he will soon gain another! He should of course inform his insurance company now too and see a nice increase there. That might just take the smile off his face. What age and how long has he been driving etc? If he's young young and named on say a parents policy I would recommend to them to drop him and make him get his own etc. As for increasing the penalty he has been offered a FPN that will be the end of it if accepted tbh. Provado on FB would be a long stretch for anything more and most likely not be taken seriously. 

yeah when the insurance find out he will need to grease himself up and assume the position    especially if he's a nipper

Don't do what you're thinking.

 

If he tries to argue it or takes that line with the police, they'll do it for him.

Regularly people try and talk themselves out of speeding in court, then end up incriminating themselves on a higher charge.

Sadly, it's a company vehicle, so he won't feel the effects of any insurance increase, otherwise I'd let him feel it that way.

 

He's 26 and has held his license for about 6 years. His stupidity already got a car written off and refusal for anyone in the family to let him use theirs as he was quite happy to demonstrate how he could get them to wheel-spin everywhere. Even his g/f took him off her insurance because of that. Having to wait for a previous car was "lame" as he *needed* it to go out. He was on the Fun truck insurance for a while, but again wheel-spinning and calling it a piece of sh!t before asking to borrow it didn't endear me to him using it again.

 

Am getting rather sick of the yoof of today treating everything as a laugh and then just walking away from responsibility when things go wrong.

When he has to pay for his own wheels and insurance, his attitude will change I'm sure.  His previous accident and this speeding fine would have to be declared to the insurance company when he does come around to paying for his own Policy.

if it's his first, won't he be going to a "Speed Awareness Course"?

Sadly that's seen as a laugh and a joke too. :(

As much as you want to I wouldn't interfere. As above he'll get more points and if he does a course will get the points for that too.

He'll have to declare his points to his employer, some only let you have 6 before you're shown the door

One of my half brothers doesn't drive any more (never should have been), he was convicted for drink driving so hasn't a mission of being able to afford any wheels until hes at least 30 now realistically. Was using his mothers car to go into town etc before even having had driving lessons let alone passing test. Had I been aware of this before he was caught only just over limit and smoked for it, I would have shopped him so fast! He had no insurance, no licence, over limit and TWOC but as he was co operative he was only felt for the drink side! Shame tbh! Piddly fine and a band from ...... having lessons essentially what a crap system! 

You're not seriously thinking about trying to get the severity of your young brothers speeding ticket increased!?

 

Younger brother may be, but he's 26, a grown man. Let him make his own way in life. We all have to learn, sometimes the hard way.

He was speeding he got a fine that is how it works, if he speeds again he will get another and so on. As silver1011 says, he is a big boy and will probably learn the hard way.

Let's hope he doesn't wipe someone out before he learns

He'll have to declare his points to his employer, some only let you have 6 before you're shown the door

 

Exactly, most company policies have limits so do it too often and it's more serious than a few hundred more on your own insurance.

Seems like he's a big boy learning nothing.

Let's hope he doesn't wipe someone out before he learns

 

That could apply to anyone who views speeding, talking on the phone etc. as trivial.

 

It is for this reason we have the punishments in place to discourage motoring offences.

 

Not family looking to grass up their own flesh and blood, a bit extreme to me.

 

I'm all for the cruel-to-be-kind attitiude, but I think at 26 he's old and wise enough to make his own way through life without the additional worry of big brother dropping him in it.

Idiot youngest brother has picked up his first speeding ticket (37 in a 30). All seems to be a bit of a laugh and joke as far as he's concerned. Has quite happily put on his FB that it's because it had been a very long day and he wasn't paying attention as he was quite tired. (Birmingham and back to see a concert) Which does seem to me to place it into "Driving Without Due Care and Attention" (IMHO) which carries a greater penalty.

 

He's put the NIP on FB too, so I have a reference number, and would rather like for him to actually appreciate the gravity of the situation instead of it being just a big joke.

Gave this thread a little thought (multi-tasking style) last night, and decided that it exemplifies what is wrong with greed scameras. 

if it's his first, won't he be going to a "Speed Awareness Course"?

 

So far, the course is viewed as getting away with it. If your attitude is that you've done nothing wrong and being there is a waste of time, then you will learn nothing.

 

 

Not family looking to grass up their own flesh and blood, a bit extreme to me.

.

 

There's a scheme where you can shop people for drink-driving, I'd have no hesitation in picking up the phone, regardless of who it is.

 

 

Gave this thread a little thought (multi-tasking style) last night, and decided that it exemplifies what is wrong with greed scameras. 

 

Can you expand on that one please.

If he was pulled by a traffic cop and had that flippant attitude, your wish might have been granted.

 

With the speed camera, a bill arrives by post, you pay it and carry on.

If he was pulled by a traffic cop and had that flippant attitude, your wish might have been granted.

 

With the speed camera, a bill arrives by post, you pay it and carry on.

Exactly. 

I love how no one on this forum breaks the speed limit.

My younger sister got caught at 87mph on the motorway and did the speed course. She said it was pointless in her eyes but kept the points off her licence.

Also hes your brother, whos 26 so leave him to it. Hes also the same age as me and if i caught wind of my older brother planning what you had in mind then it would be a serious issue for my brother, not only that you may upset other family members depending on how thick the blood runs in your family

You could always advise him to drive passed Old Trafford. Plenty come away from there with three points.

 

 He will be brought to heel sooner rather than later be it under punishments for speeding, driving manners or antisocial behaviour behind the wheel. 

I love how no one on this forum breaks the speed limit.

My younger sister got caught at 87mph on the motorway and did the speed course. She said it was pointless in her eyes but kept the points off her licence.

Also hes your brother, whos 26 so leave him to it. Hes also the same age as me and if i caught wind of my older brother planning what you had in mind then it would be a serious issue for my brother, not only that you may upset other family members depending on how thick the blood runs in your family

I'm more concerned about the "driving whilst tired" and the reported attitude than the "driving above a posted speed limit". 

 

And like your sis, I've driven at 70<cough>mph on a motorway.

The charge would have to change to affect the sentence much I'd guess.

 

In court there would be an upper and lower limit sentence that could be handed out by the sheriff/judge.

Normally mist people would try to do everything to get the judge to give them the lower end of the range.

 

I'd be surprised if he could self incriminate himself into a more serious charge though FB unless he's uploaded a film of his driving.

 

I suspect it's going to take a significant shock to knock some sense into your brother.

I'll pop over and break his legs! He can stick a pic of that up on his FB page

Edited 10 December, 201312 yr by damo :-)
Sure its a tongue in cheek comment, but mind the language