hi, 

 

I have just changed my battery to a tungstone (all I could get locally, today). Everything went ok as in all of the lights went off as a member described above, with the exemption of the yellow engine management light. I took it for a quick run and each light went off as expected as each item reset it self and I opened and closed the windows to reset them, but the yellow management light stays on. 

Any idea's??

Fixed the lights issue

 

After a search on the forum's you have to turn the ingintion on and off 5 times without starting the car. 

So when changing the battery

1 windows open fully and close

Turn steering wheel multiple times

ingination on / off 5 times

drive car 100 mtrs

 

All lights off

Fixed the lights issue

 

After a search on the forum's you have to turn the ingintion on and off 5 times without starting the car. 

So when changing the battery

1 windows open fully and close

Turn steering wheel multiple times

ingination on / off 5 times

drive car 100 mtrs

 

All lights off

Sounds a bit of a faff, my dealer fitted my new battery Bosch s5008 77aamp today . Hopefully this " you don't need a new battery " info proves to be nonsense and I can now go to the car without worrying if it will start. I could see how much brighter the foot well light's were compared to the old battery,

Oh crap!  Looks like I also need a new battery in my 170hp TDI as the symptoms and dealer actions are as above. only 24k miles and 21 mo The battery is a Banner brand, which I know score highly with their Leisure (deep discharge) batteries.  What brands have others had problems with?

 

FWIW, my Superb sat three months from manufacture to first sale/use.  Would this have deep discharged the battery and sent it on its way out?

 

Will take a pop at the dealer, but I guess it will have to be from a Bosch vendor at my expense.

PS  Is it safe to use a CTEK charger with the battery in the car and connected?

PS  Is it safe to use a CTEK charger with the battery in the car and connected?

 

Short answer is yes. This is from CTEKs FAQs

Answer:

CTEK’s charger will not harm sensitive electronic equipment and the battery does not need to be disconnected from the vehicle.

Most vehicle manufactures has a set limit of 16V, to not harm the vehicles electronic equipment. CTEK’s battery chargers do not cross this limit and charges with a very clean and controlled current. The only function close to 16V is Recond/Boost but not over it. If the manufacture gives a warming against high currents and you are uncertain about a specific level, disconnect the battery anyway.

 

 

I have used a CTEK on a number of different vehicles left unused for  several weeks at a time and have never disconnected a battery. I have used both the CTEK eyelet connectors connected direct to the battery terminals and their spring connectors connected to engine compartment charging points. My Superb currently has a CTEK connected directly to the battery and works fine .

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/index.php?/topic/299762-Battery-drain

At 20 months old, 15k miles I got a new battery from the main dealer with no quibbling at all. If anyone wants specific details, reg plate, dealer etc to go to Skoda UK with just PM me.

Just to add strength to the argument that the factory battery's crap the one they gave me under warranty's a higher output.

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Short answer is yes. This is from CTEKs FAQs

Answer:

CTEK’s charger will not harm sensitive electronic equipment and the battery does not need to be disconnected from the vehicle.

Most vehicle manufactures has a set limit of 16V, to not harm the vehicles electronic equipment. CTEK’s battery chargers do not cross this limit and charges with a very clean and controlled current. The only function close to 16V is Recond/Boost but not over it. If the manufacture gives a warming against high currents and you are uncertain about a specific level, disconnect the battery anyway.

I have used a CTEK on a number of different vehicles left unused for several weeks at a time and have never disconnected a battery. I have used both the CTEK eyelet connectors connected direct to the battery terminals and their spring connectors connected to engine compartment charging points. My Superb currently has a CTEK connected directly to the battery and works fine .

And in addition, if you have the ctek 12v socket connector you can charge the battery through one of the 12V sockets in the Suberb (they are permanently live). Although I haven't yet found a route for the power cable that is big enough to allow you to do this whilst being able to close and lock the doors.

I would definately say battery as I had the same and if you going for a battery I would recommend a Varta.

And in addition, if you have the ctek 12v socket connector you can charge the battery through one of the 12V sockets in the Suberb (they are permanently live). Although I haven't yet found a route for the power cable that is big enough to allow you to do this whilst being able to close and lock the doors.

If you have a 12v socket in the boot can you not exit the cable at the top or bottom corners of the tailgate? On the saloon you can at the top corners of the boot lid without pinching the cable.

I have my CTEK connected to the battery in the boot. I run the cable out at the top corner of the boot lid and lock the car. 

If you have a 12v socket in the boot can you not exit the cable at the top or bottom corners of the tailgate? On the saloon you can at the top corners of the boot lid without pinching the cable.

I have my CTEK connected to the battery in the boot. I run the cable out at the top corner of the boot lid and lock the car.

I tried, but failed. Closest I could get to a big enough gap was to leave the lock on the safety latch: tried all doors and the (estate) boot. Used the croc clips in the end and left the bonnet on the safety latch instead.

My battery has a 340A DIN rating. The equivalent and more normally quoted spec is SAE EN 570A, which is also on my battery.  But this is way undersize for a 2L diesel, IMO, especially a DSG variant with two gear trains to churn round in cold oil.  The Bosch S5008 is SAE EN 780A, or a third as much again.  Mercedes fit S6 batteries to all their range, btw.

 

Put the CTEK on the battery today.  It charged suspiciously quickly.  I've had this on batteries before - it usually means that the battery has somehow lost capacity.  I can't be arsed to take it out and connect a known load to it - I'll go and explain to the dealer that it is a known problem and ask for it to be replaced.  FWIW, the CTEK power lead just fitted between the headlamp and the front wing, so I could shut the hood.

 

Have tried a current clamp meter to look for drain and got 1.4 Amps, but apparently (according to the dealer) having the hood open to do this powers up all the convenience centres, and I don't have a clamp meter with remote read out.

When mine was having issues during Christmas break the RAC guy put on a current clamp with the bonnet open, locked the car and after 4/5 mins as all the convenience modules shut down it dropped off to 30 milliamps IIRC

Definitely don't need to shut the bonnet.

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My battery has a 340A DIN rating. The equivalent and more normally quoted spec is SAE EN 570A, which is also on my battery.  But this is way undersize for a 2L diesel, IMO, especially a DSG variant with two gear trains to churn round in cold oil.  The Bosch S5008 is SAE EN 780A, or a third as much again.  Mercedes fit S6 batteries to all their range, btw.

 

Put the CTEK on the battery today.  It charged suspiciously quickly.  I've had this on batteries before - it usually means that the battery has somehow lost capacity.  I can't be arsed to take it out and connect a known load to it - I'll go and explain to the dealer that it is a known problem and ask for it to be replaced.  FWIW, the CTEK power lead just fitted between the headlamp and the front wing, so I could shut the hood.

 

Have tried a current clamp meter to look for drain and got 1.4 Amps, but apparently (according to the dealer) having the hood open to do this powers up all the convenience centres, and I don't have a clamp meter with remote read out.

Funnily enough my wife's 55 plate A150 has a beefier battery than my 2.0 tdi 4x4

Did the clamp meter test.  6.5 A for about two minutes, then 2.5 for another 2, then a slow ramp down to 300mA.  After 30 minutes, drops to then steady at 150mA (alarm system?).  So the 70Ah battery should manage around 20 days before completely draining the battery from a full charge.

 

Mine's now booked in for a weekend drop test at the local dealer.  As the Service Manager lives next door but one, I'm hopeful of a decent job being done.

 

I haven't had starting problems with any of my cars since circa 1985, until this car.  Battery problems referred to above concern leisure batteries in caravans.

 

Going out for lunch now - hope it starts!

It has been with a Skoda Main Dealer all w/e.  Went in part-charged, because battery will not hold a charge.  They charged it over the weekend - it will not hold a charge and the Workshop Diagnostic Test prints out a battery fail, which the SM showed me.  However, as his did so the GM turned up with a Warranty Test printout showing 11.9 volts  and 'Pass'.  He even *******ed the SM for showing me the Fail print-out. He is refusing to do anything, even though the battery in the brand-new Elegance in his showroom (31.5k and same loaded spec as mine) has a significantly more powerful battery in it.  Used the excuse that the loaded spec has lots of current consumers - like my last Merc, said I, that had a battery in it correctly sized for the usage.

 

Ringing Skoda Customer Service next.

 

Getting ****ed-off as I cannot plan to use the car because I never know if it will start.

 

PS.  Logged it with Skoda CS - helpful but non-comittal.

Edited 10 February, 201412 yr by Mayor of Newark

It is not an easy one, especially as you live next door to the SM.  You could escalate to the dealer principal (or more likely the dealer principal's PA), but at risk of affecting your relationship with your neighbour.  If SUK are unresponsive, then you may have to bite the bullet and spend £80-90 on a new battery with high CCA and fit it yourself.

Problem is not the SM - but the other person who I now know was the Used Sales Manager.

 

Attitude  terrible -"we know it isn't right but we'll try and hide that from the customer using a print-out that says it is good enough - after all, it's only a customer".

 

Am I allowed to say on here who the dealer is?

 

I will not be going back.

Based on my research into battery testing (see post #20), I don't understand how they can read a voltage and claim a "pass"?!

I see no reason why you can't name the dealer. Obviously it would be unwise, if anything above could be deemed libellous, in so much that they could prove without doubt it to be untrue.

EDIT: Another non-start for me last week after a CTEK recondition about a month ago and "normal" usage patterns. I must get to my local dealer and see what approach they take.

Edited 11 February, 201412 yr by artichoke273

I suspect that the 'Pass" is based on percentage of nominal CCA (although Skoda work off the DIN Spec, so my battery is 570 CCA, 340 DIN.  The test showed 190 measured DIN-wise.  Would be a Fail to me.

Have you tried using Skoda assist when the car fails to start?

Am pleased to report that my car was left in a hotel car park for fifteen days and started immediately . This proves to me that in spite of my dealer insistence that I did not need a new battery , fitting the new one proves that the factory fitted one is not fit for purpose for this model . You can imagine my relief after my old battery would fail to start the car after being left for three days.

I have just ordered one of these solar trickle chargers for those extended periods of lay-up: http://www.solartechnology.co.uk/nqp-or-used?product_id=309

After they've had the car for 4 days, they have finally conceded a new battery under warranty.  But it has to come from Skoda, so it will be another 2 days    .  Been telling them that the battery is duff since mid December.  Sometimes I feel that it might be better not to be a Chartered Engineer, then I might not get as frustrated. And it almost certainly will not be as beefy as a Bosch S5  :( .

 

When it has been fitted, they'd like another day to monitor the quiescent current being drawn   .

 

All the messing about and investigation must have cost, at Main Dealer rates, much more than just fitting a battery. Seems illogical that Skoda will not permit local judgement by the trained techies.

Have you tried using Skoda assist when the car fails to start?

 

 

Never thought about it, as I have the Caravan Club's breakdown insurance as IIRC, my caravan is too long for Skoda Assist.

 

But I'll use SA if the battery goes again.  Thanks for the tip.

After they've had the car for 4 days, they have finally conceded a new battery under warranty.  But it has to come from Skoda, so it will be another 2 days    .  Been telling them that the battery is duff since mid December.  Sometimes I feel that it might be better not to be a Chartered Engineer, then I might not get as frustrated. And it almost certainly will not be as beefy as a Bosch S5  :( .

 

When it has been fitted, they'd like another day to monitor the quiescent current being drawn   .

 

All the messing about and investigation must have cost, at Main Dealer rates, much more than just fitting a battery. Seems illogical that Skoda will not permit local judgement by the trained techies.

After being told YOU DO NOT NEED A NEW BATTERY and it failed to start again, my dealer fitted my purchased S5 and it now starting is great, am totally confused as two Skoda assist techs said battery good ,two dealer visits said battery good and one ATS centre said battery was good, with your background can you explain why the test equipment can give such misleading results , or is it simply that my factory fitted battery was good but simply not good enough for the demands of the Superb?

Edited 11 February, 201412 yr by mellyboy