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Turbo for BLT without EGR delete?

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As per title I am looking for a Garret turbo for the BLT model - Without having to delete the EGR

a PD130/150 will suffice, any links much appreciated :)

What else will need replacing/fitting when doing the job? Most of Turbo's seen listed for ASZ models???

I saw this..... seems a bit to cheap lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171234394170&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123

It's cheap because it's an exchange price. You pay the price, they send you a recon turbo, you send them your old turbo.

From what I understand you WON'T.

Despite not really needing a turbo (yet) I decided to buy a insurance policy Garett PD130. Its ASZ because you just won't find BLT Garrett, AFAIK they were never designed for the car.

 

Although I've 2 issues with my purchase of this bargain basement turbo:-

 

1) I may not need it before I might eventually relinquish the car( having owned the car for 10 yrs EDIT: whoops its actually more like 8, I think I will eventually be itching for something different),

2) I kind of wish now I'd got a PD150 at least, since like you realised you will need to delete. For all that effort may as well up the power no ? Since you need to map it out, hence remap.

 

With my experience of the KKK I'd disagree with the mass census of opinion of them being chocolate though and would be tempted to fit a low mileage one instead of the Garett due to less hassle, no remap required, no insurance hike, etc etc.

 

I think I paid £160 for a breaker on ebay for it (guaranteed as good by the seller) but I recently offered it to someone who desperately needed a turbo after failure but ended up confronted with a wall of questions about it - not JUST from the guy I offered but a load of other jokers who thought I was offering it to them too lol

(its not much above the price of an exchange unit, what do you want for that price lol)

 

If I'd known the hassle involving the remap instead of panicking because my turbos been more whistly in the last 6-12 mths I'd have just ignored the noise and tried to get a KKK instead :rofl:

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Very interesting comments thank you for taking time to reply

Is there no way one could reinforce the kkk turbo? Can they not strengthen the internals?

The vrs has the original turbo and is well above 100k miles now so not bad lifespan really

Hardly worth the effort, probably not possible anyway.

I think the chances of finding a more suitable replacement KKK would overrule the benefit of trying to refurb your old one at great cost.

 

I agree, the same with mine, its all down to proper use of the turbo I believe, regular miles and all that. Mines on 110 now :)

I have a bigger turbo on my fabia it's a garrett 724930-6 vrs hy and I have the egr pipe still on but I have taken the pipe off the top of the egr and I have no problems with it :)

Do you have a BLT ? How have you got around the issue that the manifold has completely different shape to the non BLTs when it comes time to hooking it up?

 

(i.e. you can't fit a BLT to a ASZ without EGR delete AFAIK and vice versa you can't fit BLT easily to a ASZ).

 

Just wondered.

Do you have a BLT ? How have you got around the issue that the manifold has completely different shape to the non BLTs when it comes time to hooking it up?

 

(i.e. you can't fit a BLT to a ASZ without EGR delete AFAIK and vice versa you can't fit BLT easily to a ASZ).

 

Just wondered.

Yh I have the BLT engine and mine is kinda an egr delete but I still have the egr still on but the pipe is not connected to the egr but I dont how it was fitted because it was my cousin that fitted it and I brought the car off him and he changed the accout details for briskoda for me :)

To fit a garret to a BLT  you will need to be creative with the EGR pipe that comes from turbo as the standard one has wrong angles.

Or get a PD160 ibiza Garret as these fit straight on, but require a much larger rubber intake adapter 1K0 129 627b @ 32 quid 

Im sure you could find and EGR pipe to cure this issue from another vw based car, but there not cheap and the car runs sooooooooooooooooooooo much better with an EGR delete.

The KKK turbos are a lottery as some last longer than others but are not as well built internally as the garret.

Mine died @ 84k with the shaft snapping and the compressor wheel in halves. 

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Cheers bud

So with an EGR delete can any oof these turbos be fitted?

Cheers bud

So with an EGR delete can any oof these turbos be fitted?

yes... by the way its me who youve been txtin n bought the clips off ;)

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Cheers Matt, skoda don't apparently have those clips listed!! (rear brake line clips)

I'm in London need much power as possible low down lol, don't want a laggy turbo,

I reli do like power delivery of the kkk, only doubt casted over its reliability hence the reason hybriding it would be nice lol

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Cheers Matt, skoda don't apparently have those clips listed!! (rear brake line clips)

I'm in London need much power as possible low down lol, don't want a laggy turbo,

I reli do like power delivery of the kkk, only doubt casted over its reliability hence the reason hybriding it would be nice lol

KKK + Garrett standard 130 turbos are exactly the same size + drive the same etc.. you will only find more lag in a bigger turbo or a hybrid.

no company will hybrid a KKK so if you do want a hybrid then you will need a Garrett. The least laggy hybrid will be a Garrett 130 hybrid (see Xman750 for a good deal) because they are the smallest. You will get max 210bhp out of a hybrid 130 but it is more usable power lower down in the revs compared to the GTBs + hybrid 150s. Or you could get a non hybrid Garrett pd150 turbo that will produce max 195bhp + wont be laggy

If i were you + if you dont want big power or a laggy turbo. I would buy a reconned standard Garrett 130. Block your EGR off at both ends and remove the pipe that goes from the turbo to the EGR valve + get a remap that maps out the EGR.

this would be the cheapest option and will produce around 175bhp wont be laggy + will mean you dont have to upgrade anything else which is where the ££ starts to go (clutch/ flywheel/ FMIC/ exhaust etc) :)

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