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Filling the gearbox through the speedometer cable appature. I used Triple QX 75W - 90 EP semi synthetic to spec GL-5, about 2.4 - 2.5 litres, to fill (funnel into gearbox then funnel to funnel)

 

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So did you have any trouble withdrawing the speedo drive? I've heard sometimes they disintegrate.

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So did you have any trouble withdrawing the speedo drive? I've heard sometimes they disintegrate.

No, just quite stiff to pull out first. It's the type of drive where the plastic gear seperates from the spedo drive unit, so it stopped in place in it's housing. Gearbox has only done low mileage so that might be a factor, also I think it's the diesels that are more prone to disintergration / losing the gear into the gearbox.

 

 

from what I've read, API GL-5 type is not a good idea because it attacks the alloy of synchro rings.

I use 75W90 GL-4 as Skoda recommends.

 

See http://www.widman.biz/uploads/Transaxle_oil.pdf

Wish I had read this before, anyway it's too late now, probably just change the oil again sooner than needed

 

 

Why not write up a proper guide in the tech guides section, that's what it's for, user submitted stuff like this, it could help somebody else In the future.

If I get some time, i'll do one about changing gear oil

  • 1 year later...

Felicia 1.6 glx estate 1998. 45k miles. Speaking from experience, do not use a GL-5 gearbox oil. Now that i've spent two days under my car, at the roadside, fitting a new clutch and a (lucky to find) refurb replacement gearbox, i Filled it with the recommended GL-4. Some damage to the selector shaft rod, when using grips to aid the reconnection, leaves me needing a selector shaft oil seal. Hoping some emery cloth will smooth the shaft of blemishes. Having a bit of trouble sourcing a selector shaft oil seal. Bickertons say they have them, but on enquiry they don't. Anyone had any luck ourcing one lately? Cheer. cerin

  • 2 years later...

Hi!

I´ve been driving with Skoda Felicias about 5 years, and by now I had absolutely no problems with gear box leaks. Until this summer. First I had a 96-Felicia spi in which there was that older type oil seal and gaiter, and it worked well in this sense, no leaks. It is now at countryside being a spare part car for my 98-mpi-Felicia that has now begun to leak.

 

At least in Finland it seems quite impossible to get that kind of old and little parts to a twenty-year-old Felicia. I  was in dark despair as I found out that that kind of parts were sold only in eastern Europe countries as: Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Turkey etc. And only the Czech company Skoda-Parts.com had sites in English. But they wanted 33,88 euros about the shipment to Finland, as the parts did cost 3,88 euros :)

 

But finally I could get that  transportation with only 10 euros, so today I ordered two pieces of part 002 301 227  and  one piece of part 115 292 800     So, now I am waiting for the parts to come from the deep south to this faraway polar area. But I mus say, that I personally believe that the older system was better. The gaiter in my old Fellow  protected that axle against stones, salt and so on, so it never began to leak, I suppose. Would anybody have anything to comment about those parts or the work that has to be done while removing the old seal and oils and then replacing the new parts and new oils? Any comment is welcome :)

 

Best greetings from the rain forest climate in Finland (28 degrees Celcius and humidy about 80%), JussiG7                                                                                              

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Hi Jussi

I vote for the older seal. Better design, lip for the gaiter.

Hi Ricardo, nice to hear about you :) It really seems, that at lest in this case the old seal is better as the new one.

  • 3 weeks later...

Hi guys!

 

Finally I got the replacing of the old axle seal and the installing of the new gaiter done!

 

It has been so extraordinary hot in Finland almost a month, that it has been difficult for a Finnish Iceman to do anything in this infernal heat (every day the temperature between +27C --  +32C and a lot of sun).

 

I just put one big photo here as a comic strip here to show how NOT to do this job. Naturally I also changed the gear oils (API-4  and semi-synthetic 80W-90 oil), but as the very honored member R_U_A_F_A has made a complete manual to this job, I just describe the seal and gaiter job. And because in Continent it seems rather difficult to get new OEM- parts, I thus share the links of the parts here directly. Both parts are for Favorit Skodas, but I believe that they today work better as the Felicia ones: https://www.skoda-parts.com/spare-part/115222290-seal-14x24-30x15-cz-11334.html for the seal and https://www.skoda-parts.com/spare-part/115292800-shift-stick-cuff-cz-1156.html for the gaiter.

 

May your days be merry and bright... :)

 

 

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Pic8 - that hole is there to avoid pumping effect of gaiter. When it get clogged, it can pull some oil from gearbox. That may be reason why Skoda switched to newer type.

 

Btw, how gearbox works now, after oil change? Prescribed oil for Felicia is 75W - 75W90, 80W90 might cause some issues in winter (even 75W shifts harder in sub-zero temperatures)

Hi again!

 

Today is supposed the be the last day here in Finland to go over +30C  :) So, maybe the next car issues shall be easier, as my brain reaches more comfortable circumstances :D 

 

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the hole in the gaiter is to leak the gearbox oil when the seal fails

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13 hours ago, Papez said:

that hole is there to avoid pumping effect of gaiter. When it get clogged, it can pull some oil from gearbox

 

This is the way I see these two arguments: 

 

Ricardo thinks, the oil is not supposed to stay inside the gaiter, because it may damage the rubber. And also the oil might cause dust, sand etc. to gather round the axle.

 

Papez thinks, the hole is there to avoid a vacuum-effect so that it would not pull oil from gearbox.

 

And 4 years ago R_U_AFA thought: "Fitting the gaiter I noticed that it had a hole in it, presumably to let the air out when it's compressed. So I've put the hole facing the underbody,to keep out road dirt." So, I assume that he presumed the gaiter being so tight that it would not let the air out, which is a relative to the vacuum-theory.

 

I think that all the 3 theories are good and acceptable. But the question remains the same: Must the hole be directed up or down? Or, as a compromise, to the left/right? :)

 

The crucial thing is, however, to keep the hole open, I suppose!

 

14 hours ago, Papez said:

Btw, how gearbox works now, after oil change? Prescribed oil for Felicia is 75W - 75W90, 80W90 might cause some issues in winter (even 75W shifts harder in sub-zero temperatures)

The gearbox works now perfectly, I have used this oil also before. In the winter I have not found obvious differences between 75W90 and 80W90.

It may be because of the climate change and motor heaters, but nowadays the oil problems have gone upside down concerning gear or engine oils.

 

In the year 1998 I, for example, did use 75W90 fully synthetic gear oil and 5W40 fully synthetic motor oil in my dear Lada car, and had many cold starts, in which the good viscosity in winter was vital.

 

But now I have become more careful. In Felicia gearbox the API-4 classification seems to be more important than the SAE-class. Many people say that an oil with API-5 class may destroy Felicia gear box, I don´t know about that.

And some people say that also 5W40 engine oil may cause problems, so I rather use 10W40 oils.  Just because I nowadays have to do cold starts not so often in winter. And with the gear box it is about the same. But I must say, I live almost in the shoreline of the Baltic Sea (it is very seldom to freeze nowadays). If I would live in Lapland, I would use as thin oils as possible.

 

Regards, JussiG7

 

 

 

 

 

 

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