Here is a totally mad idea.

 

If your engine uses excessive oil, has had a consumption test and you are advised you need a Breather Pipe & Valve Modification and ECU Update.

 

Write to Skoda UK and ask.

 

'What is wrong with my vehicle, what is the modification you are going to do change about my engine,

please provide me with the Technical Specification of the Modification and an explanation of what it will be doing'

&

Ask, is a modification like this something i should tell my Insurance Company or is the ECU update purely to revise some errors made by Skoda?

Why does my car require this and other cars with the engines built at around the same time & to the same specifications do not 

require this or get called in to have it done?'

 

Then you will have asked, and surely they will be required to answer,

In writing, and telling the paying customer what is being done to their property and why.

 

george

^^ Splendid idea and if I am in that boat I will do it.

Mine has grown it's own oil as the Skoda recommended oil check system is so inaccurate, that you can get random higher and lower readings

I now use the cold dip method as you can't go wrong; oil has drained into the sump, so level is slightly higher up the dipstick and you are in no danger of overfilling. 

Nail on head.  It really is as simple as that.

 

Know where the Cold Dip shows on the Dip Stick is when stone cold and parked on the flat with the correct quantity of oil in.

Always aim for that when Stone Cold and oil has drained back to the sump.

 

Amazing how many fail to just do that, the simples way

and have to mess around.

Edited 22 July, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

This is a very interesting thread but some of it is far too technical for me.

I have had to top up my oil on my 61 plate Fabia 1.2 TSi86 a couple of times since the last service last September, because the oil warning light came on. We're not talking massive amounts of oil, but as it's only done 25,000 miles since purchased in November 2011 (mostly 11-16 mile runs, with several long journeys too) I was a bit concerned, so I have booked my Fabia in with our local dealer for an "excessive oil consumption test".

Having read the posts on this thread, am I wasting my time having it tested (while the 3 year warranty is still valid)?

Hoping for a speedy reply as the test is booked for this Friday the 25th!

Thanks in advance

Martin

Edited 23 July, 201411 yr by saved by skoda

Rumours of another possible fix...

 

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f128/polo-gti-high-oil-usage-discussion-thread-57967-196.html#post1072480

'saved by skoda',

Sorry could you be clear on what is what. 

 

How much Oil does your car require topping up with over how many miles.?  ie, when the light came on, how much oil needed putting in.

& when did the light show again?

 

 Do you consider the usage to be excessive?

Are you sure the correct quantity of oil is in after the car has been serviced, or had an oil change?

 

If it is using too much oil for the type of use it gets, then you had best have it checked out.

 

Is it on Fixed Servicing and having the Oil & Filter Changed at 9,400 (!0,000) Miles?

Was the correct Oil Grade on the Invoice for our cars engine.?

 

george

Edited 23 July, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

Rumours of another possible fix...

 

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f128/polo-gti-high-oil-usage-discussion-thread-57967-196.html#post1072480

 

Almost 200 page thread!!! Briskodians look like a study in restraint comparatively!

'saved by skoda',

Sorry could you be clear on what is what. 

 

How much Oil does your car require topping up with over how many miles.?  ie, when the light came on, how much oil needed putting in.

& when did the light show again?

 

 Do you consider the usage to be excessive?

Are you sure the correct quantity of oil is in after the car has been serviced, or had an oil change?

 

If it is using too much oil for the type of use it gets, then you had best have it checked out.

 

Is it on Fixed Servicing and having the Oil & Filter Changed at 9,400 (!0,000) Miles?

Was the correct Oil Grade on the Invoice for our cars engine.?

 

george

Thanks, George!

It is serviced including oil change and filter every 12 months (less than 10k miles) Castrol Edge was used, same as the spare oil given with the car when purchased.

I can't remember exactly how many miles elapsed between orange light incidents since last September's service, but I topped up both times with about 500 ml.

I think part of my problem is that after years of running old bangers (mainly Puntos) where I had to regularly add a bit of oil, I probably assumed that a new car such as my 1.2 TSi86 wouldn't use any oil!!!!!! Stupid of me, I know ....... on reflection, the oil consumption is not really excessive, it's not as though I'm topping up every week - but I am checking the dipstick when cold every week

Thanks again for your very prompt reply

Skoda UK Customer Services told a Member Recently (well a Senior Staff member did),, They do not supply Short Units.

 

Well they did, and they rebuilt engines and replaced Rings etc once upon a time.

 

No point letting them mess about with a Failing CAVE engine in UK Skoda Dealership Workshops, 

they have had 4 years with UK vRS & 5 with Cupras to get a fix.

They Failed in what is now getting towards 25 % of the Engines in Twincharger 180-185 ps cars sold in the UK.

 

Squirters,  i sometimes watch those videos,  

also have read about the 'Piston Cooling Nozzles' on Twinchargers.

Edited 23 July, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

'saved by skoda'

The owners handbook says Oil consumption maybe as high as 0.5 l/1000 km.

& then the Types of use etc.

 

So 1 litre used over how many miles is rather important,  

and if you checked the Oil after the service is rather important.

 

I know of one Oil Service chart that says 3.6 litres for a Fabia diesel Engine when it is actually 4.3 litres required.

Someone on here mentioned a chart that showed 3.6 litres and they said it should be 3.9 liters.

(no idea personally what engine that is.)

Edited 23 July, 201411 yr by goneoffSKi

Unless piston cooling jest were aimed directly at the bores and not pistons then revision would do no good there. One of the Polo GTi users from the forum wrote that rings change cured the oil use for him. That would tally up with oil control ring excessive wear reported here earlier.

If you think about it then that is the simplest of fixes and begs to wonder why wasn't it applied across the range earlier??

On my original engine I would get huge clouds of blue smoke along with a shuddering and powerless engine for a few seconds if I had been coasting down a long hill and then accelerating. This was a particularly bad example of a CAVE oil burner (which had already had the rings replaced) New CAVE engine is now much better with no visible smoke from inside the car.

As someone said earlier about not using any oil during a track day I think this is related, slow driving with lots of coasting and back on the power leaves low pressures in the combustion chamber and oil can pass by the rings (for whatever reason, wear, misshaped bores etc) and then be burnt off slowly whereas high power usage without extended time at zero throttle keeps the pressure above the piston high enough to stop any oil passing it.