Price of Golf R in Dubai.....makes me pig sick

[pipsyp]

A mate lives in Dubai.....has just picked up his new Lapis Blue DSG 5 door Mk7 Golf R. Was jealous enough anyway but just calculated base list price of the car out there is only a few hundred quid over £24k (just under 150k dirhams)..same car with less kit over here is just a shade under £32k OTR.

So a 280hp (they are however detuned for reliability due to the hot conditions) 4wd Golf for the price of a near enough base spec vRS TSi in the UK. How unfair is that! These guys earn a fortune and pay no tax as well haha

[Hyburnate]

Us Brits get that in pretty much every market :(

[grr666]

A mate lives in Dubai.....has just picked up his new Lapis Blue DSG 5 door Mk7 Golf R. Was jealous enough anyway but just calculated base list price of the car out there is only a few hundred quid over £24k (just under 150k dirhams)..same car with less kit over here is just a shade under £32k OTR.

So a 280hp (they are however detuned for reliability due to the hot conditions) 4wd Golf for the price of a near enough base spec vRS TSi in the UK. How unfair is that! These guys earn a fortune and pay no tax as well haha

 

You only live once.

[Scribbler]

As a plus point women aren't allowed to drive over there so less chance of getting pranged ;-).

on a serious note you couldn't pay me enough to live there. You need Kidnapping and ransom insurance to start with the oppressive heat

and social injustice are just to name a few of the reasons. A few grand extra on a car is a small price to pay for living here in this

amazing country which most take for granted.

[pipsyp]

Sorry this really wast a "wow Dubai is amazing, why am I not living there so I can buy a cheap Golf R" kind of post. I have a couple of friends who have lived out there for some years so know only too well about the v backwards culture and blatant mistreatment (bordering on slavery) of their vast imigrant workforce; just amazes me in such a wealthy country where people (locals and white collar ex-pats) typically earn v good wages and pay no tax that they still pay several k less than us for an imported car.....acknowledge most of this is down to taxation.

Agree Uk is not such a bad place to live and we do have a great health and benefits system.....but my god dont we just pay for it (33% of income for the majority factoring in NI).

BTW I think you'll find women are allowed to drive in Dubai...its backwards but not that backwards :-). They are allowed to drive anywhere inthe UAE. Saudi women arent however.

[Griffenfeldt]

In Norway the Golf R cost £73.500,-

[TroyChallenger]

Britain is always cold, cloudy, damp, dark and depressing. Even in what passes for summer. [/size]

Contrary to what the local sheeple are systematically drip-fed by the media, the economy in the UK did not decline during the last recession and did not recover from it for the simple reason that there never was an economy to start with.

A dependency on handouts courtesy of working taxpayers, physical disability, poor mental health and behaviour, even poorer educational standards and general despair are the "position par défaut" for a large proportion of the indigenous population......if you've been subjected to schooling courtesy of the UK education "system" you might well need to use Google to translate the complicated words between the quotation marks in that last statement.

Having first used Google to work out what quotation marks are, of course.

The Eastern Europeans, courtesy of the last Labour administration, are here in offensively large numbers. UKBA very occasionally raid their places but Abrahem, Tomasz and Zbigniew abscond with incredible athleticism on a par with Usain Bolt, only to return later with peculiar haircuts and a new set of fake papers, all courtesy of "Boris" who spends a disproportionate, but highly profitable, amount of his life sat in the corner of the White Hart public house, never to be disturbed whilst he is "een ze conference innit".

All of the local town centres here are one-way concrete wastelands too hideous to describe........suffice it to say we're into slit-your-wrists territory. If you've ever had the misfortune to have ever spent any amount of time in the port of Calais then you'll know how desperate that place is........multiply that by 100 and you start to get the picture of what urban Britain is like.

Most of the shopping malls consist mainly of burger bars, overpriced coffee shops, charity stores and, in the current climate, the particularly inappropriately named ‘Payday Loan’ companies.

However, all is not lost. If you have six screaming kids fathered by five different chavvy-figures, three of whom you can't even remember their names, tattoos across the nape of your back, multiple body piercings, a French manicure to obscure your chewed fingernails, a fake tan, a Facebook addiction and you love undercooked frozen chips and microwaved pizza, come to Britain.

You'll fit right in just fine and dandy.

And, yes, I would leave tomorrow if I had the financial backing to do so; unfortunately, like 99% of the population who'd like to leave, I don't so I'm stuck with it.

[Sporky McGuffin]

And, yes, I would leave tomorrow if I had the financial backing to do so; unfortunately, like 99% of the population who'd like to leave, I don't so I'm stuck with it.

 

I'm not sure it'd be worth it - from that post you'd likely find plenty to moan about in paradise.

[BA Baracus]

I think the point he was trying to make is that not all of us (and I'm English) believe that the UK is "an amazing place to live".

 

Correct.

 

And the thing about the independence vote is that it gives Scots a choice - being part of decision making process and making an informed choice is good.

 

Do I believe that if Scotland votes yes either (a) all will be better overnight or ( the whole world will end - then no.  The truth lies somewhere inbetween.  But it will be different and potentially a lot better - this is where decent politicians have to earn their corn.

 

However, what with Amazon, Vodafone et al paying next to no corporate tax (they say they pay a lot of income tax, 'erm employees pay this after earning it), self employed and high earners dodging tax with daft and incomprehensible schemes, CCTV monitoring everywhere, banking disasters, poor public services, expensive privatised businesses, no immigration control, abuse of the welfare system, housing problems, lifestyle cancers...

 

I'm a cautiously optimistic person and change doesn't worry me.  Quite happy to pay slightly more taxes for a fairer society.  I suggested this to a friend recently who is a high earner and he looked shocked - says it all.

 

As pipsyp said UK is not a bad place to live - amazing country?  That is stretching it a bit.

 

Don't worry I like my english friends and colleagues and am sure we will sell our oil to you for a reasonable market value - otherwise you may have to rely on your own oil fields!

Edited 26 July, 2014 by BA Baracus

[gt40]

I think the point he was trying to make is that not all of us (and I'm English) believe that the UK is "an amazing place to live".

Britain is always cold, cloudy, damp, dark and depressing. Even in what passes for summer.

Contrary to what the local sheeple are systematically drip-fed by the media, the economy in the UK did not decline during the last recession and did not recover from it for the simple reason that there never was an economy to start with.

A dependency on handouts courtesy of working taxpayers, physical disability, poor mental health and behaviour, even poorer educational standards and general despair are the "position par défaut" for a large proportion of the indigenous population......if you've been subjected to schooling courtesy of the UK education "system" you might well need to use Google to translate the complicated words between the quotation marks in that last statement.

Having first used Google to work out what quotation marks are, of course.

The Eastern Europeans, courtesy of the last Labour administration, are here in offensively large numbers. UKBA very occasionally raid their places but Abrahem, Tomasz and Zbigniew abscond with incredible athleticism on a par with Usain Bolt, only to return later with peculiar haircuts and a new set of fake papers, all courtesy of "Boris" who spends a disproportionate, but highly profitable, amount of his life sat in the corner of the White Hart public house, never to be disturbed whilst he is "een ze conference innit".

All of the local town centres here are one-way concrete wastelands too hideous to describe........suffice it to say we're into slit-your-wrists territory. If you've ever had the misfortune to have ever spent any amount of time in the port of Calais then you'll know how desperate that place is........multiply that by 100 and you start to get the picture of what urban Britain is like.

Most of the shopping malls consist mainly of burger bars, overpriced coffee shops, charity stores and, in the current climate, the particularly inappropriately named ‘Payday Loan’ companies.

However, all is not lost. If you have six screaming kids fathered by five different chavvy-figures, three of whom you can't even remember their names, tattoos across the nape of your back, multiple body piercings, a French manicure to obscure your chewed fingernails, a fake tan, a Facebook addiction and you love undercooked frozen chips and microwaved pizza, come to Britain.

You'll fit right in just fine and dandy.

And, yes, I would leave tomorrow if I had the financial backing to do so; unfortunately, like 99% of the population who'd like to leave, I don't so I'm stuck with it.

If you're so clever why don't you have the financial backing to do what you want.

Who failed you? Or did you do it yourself?

[TroyChallenger]

If you're so clever why don't you have the financial backing to do what you want.

Who failed you? Or did you do it yourself?

 

I'm 50.

 

To buy, say, a villa in Cyprus (my dream), move out there and spend the rest of my life living relatively comfortably off of my savings means I need probably the best part of a million quid slooshing around in a bank account.

 

I haven't got that kind of money and I don't have rich elderly relatives who are going to die and bequeath me their fortune; I didn't fail and nobody failed me......it's the way of things for me and for most of the population.

[gt40]

I'm 50.

To buy, say, a villa in Cyprus (my dream), move out there and spend the rest of my life living relatively comfortably off of my savings means I need probably the best part of a million quid slooshing around in a bank account.

I haven't got that kind of money and I don't have rich elderly relatives who are going to die and bequeath me their fortune; I didn't fail and nobody failed me......it's the way of things for me and for most of the population.

Ah, you want to move somewhere and do nothing. Ironic.

PS - A villa in Cyprus will cost not much more than the price of a return flight surely? Or you could wait a year and pay less. It's a collapsing market.

PPS - don't put your pension in a Cypriot saving account, the govt will grab a large chunk. What a dream eh?

[grr666]

 (33% of income for the majority factoring in NI).

     

I wish. 

 

And the rest mate. 

 

 

 

  I suggested this to a friend recently who is a high earner and he looked shocked - says it all.

 

I make your mate right. If he's anything like my wife he pays 50% in Tax, add in National insurance

(about 12%) and 20% vat on nearly everything spent after deductions and it beggars belief that 

anybody feels they can ask for EVEN more just so they can dish it out like confetti to the unwashed and

unmotivated. (Who also seem to be breeding considerably faster than people who have actually done

something useful with their lives.) We have looked at emigration because we feel the setup here punishes

the successful and rewards the feckless (with our hard earned) and it's wrong on so many levels. 

It's only really family and friends keeping us here, both of us have transferrable skills and we are

very financially secure despite how much we are robbed by UKPLC each year. 

I try not to think about how much better off we could be if we were taxed fairly. 

[gt40]

I wish.

And the rest mate.

I make your mate right. If he's anything like my wife he pays 50% in Tax, add in National insurance

(about 12%) and 20% vat on nearly everything spent after deductions and it beggars belief that

anybody feels they can ask for EVEN more just so they can dish it out like confetti to the unwashed and

unmotivated. (Who also seem to be breeding considerably faster than people who have actually done

something useful with their lives.) We have looked at emigration because we feel the setup here punishes

the successful and rewards the feckless (with our hard earned) and it's wrong on so many levels.

It's only really family and friends keeping us here, both of us have transferrable skills and we are

very financially secure despite how much we are robbed by UKPLC each year.

I try not to think about how much better off we could be if we were taxed fairly.

47% of the UK welfare budget is spent on state pensions. Is that who you mean by the unwashed, unmotivated and feckless?

I can't remember who it was that said that he didn't mind paying taxes as it bought him civilisation but he was dead right. Ever lived anywhere where the tax take is low - these places are brutal.

I really wish all those who talk the talk of leaving this country would walk the walk.

[Nookiebear]

I've seen some discussions run off topic… but this one is winning by a mile.

 

Price of a Golf R - Devolution - Immigration/Welfare State - Taxation...

 

Any bets where we're off to next… 'ding-ding… round 2'

[pipsyp]

I've seen some discussions run off topic… but this one is winning by a mile.

Price of a Golf R - Devolution - Immigration/Welfare State - Taxation...

Any bets where we're off to next… 'ding-ding… round 2'

My thoughts exactly; regretting starting this topic now....still going off topic and in-fighting seems to be rather a growing trend on Briskoda so not too much of a surprise :-)

[Nookiebear]

I can't remember who it was that said that he didn't mind paying taxes as it bought him civilisation but he was dead right.

 

Oh Hell… I'm gonna have to join in on this one (briefly) on the basis of the above comment.

 

If those of us who strive to work hard, improve ourselves and pay our own way all our lives are paying these ever increasing taxes to bring ourselves civilisation… then where is it?

 

All I've ever seen as a result of continually increasing taxation over my 48 years of life is social and moral decline, increasing lawlessness, and the rights of those who put the most into society being eroded in favour of those that don't.

 

And back on topic… £24-25K for a Golf R is one heck of a deal!

[lfc958]

Price of a Golf R in Dubai  - Well 1st off look at what the bulk of people drive,top of the range Merc, BMW , Porche, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Lambo, these are regarded as common the Golf there is equivalent of a Dacia here in the UK.

 

IIRC from a recent program that Dubai itself actually has no major resources that make this country the way it is, most of the money used to build these fantastic islands in the shape of palm trees & the world is financed by the Oil rich neighbours, and the money from this 'tourist' industry is what makes the locals the money.

 

This is market forces at its peak , & makes USA & Europe's version look like the Old kent road from a monopoly board.

 

Good luck to the guy for getting the car at such a price, I hope he enjoys it,

What would be interesting to know is 1  - Can he bring it back to the UK & how much wold it cost ? If it is detuned for the climate then how much would it cost to put it to UK spec ?  

&

2- what would he get back if he has to sell it there ? 

[grr666]

Hate to go off topic with this but had to answer this guy.... 

I really wish all those who talk the talk of leaving this country would walk the walk.

A life changing decision like that requires planning, not a knee jerk reaction

because there's a sudden upsurge of foreigners in my area and my house has suddenly

risen in value briefly.

The muppets who emigrate and are back 2 years later skint make me laugh. 

When and if I go I'll still have several mortgage free properties in the UK paying me an income. 

That takes timing and planning my friend, and if you knew me at all you'd know

I'm a staunch man of my word.  If I go, I won't be back. Ever! I'm getting there though.

I'm on propery #3 now, I only have the one relatively small mortgage as things stand  

I have a house and a flat that are mortgage free that are tenanted and paying me an income.

They cover my mortgage payment for my home 3 times over, so I'm a pretty long way from being all talk.

I'm only 41 and my wife is 30 so there's plenty of time, although my parents are still alive at the moment

they are getting older but neither are well people so it suits me to be in the UK right now.

As for my wife, her mother is sadly no longer with us, her father is but they aren't close.

It's my parents keeping us here, not much else. We don't have children. 

She is a very highly qualified consultant actuary that can pull down six figures in the UK, she'd do even

better in the US.   Hope that satisfies your criteria.  

 

 

 

 

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[Griffenfeldt]

Of somebody told me that i could buy the Golf mk7 R for £32K i'd buy 2 of them. I cashed out £46K for my 18 tsi 4x4 dsg.

[Crogers]

Admin close this before it gets out of hand!

[gt40]

Luxembourg - cheap Golf R and a pleasant place to live.

Any economist/sociologist want to start a Golf R index?

[gt40]

PS - the OP was the first to raise the subject of tax, so not as much off topic discussion as some are making out.

[Crogers]

I don't think the tax talk is the issue

[gt40]

I don't think the tax talk is the issue

No, but it may have been the catalyst.