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New ŠKODA Fabia boasts up to 17 per cent better mileage
8/7/2014
New ŠKODA Fabia features all-new engine lineup. Peak values of 17 per cent less consumption and emissions. Four petrol, three diesel engines, all EU6-compatible. New ŠKODA Fabia GreenLine’s top performance: 3.1 l/100 km; 82 g CO2/km.
The new ŠKODA Fabia sets new benchmarks in terms of fuel consumption and emissions. Slated to debut in Paris in October 2014, the new Fabia will use up to 17 per cent less fuel than its predecessor, making it the most environment-friendly and fuel-efficient Fabia of all time. Its all-new engine lineup (four petrol and three diesel engines) complies with the EU6 emissions standard. 

The new ŠKODA Fabia will feature all-new, latest generation fuel-efficient engines. Counting the GreenLine variant, customers in EU countries will have a choice of four petrol and three diesel engines, all of them compliant with the new EU6 emissions regulation and featuring a start-stop system and kinetic energy recuperation as standards. Transmissions will be either a manual or a DSG double-clutch gearbox.

The petrol engines available are new three- and four-cylinder series based on MQB technology. The 1.0 MPI three-cylinders have indirect injection, while the four-cylinders are turbocharged with stratified injection (TSI) and engine size of 1.2 litres. Power output begins at 44 kW (60 hp) and ranges up to 81 kW (110 hp).

Diesel engines available for the new ŠKODA Fabia comprise three performance levels of the new turbocharged direct-injection 1.4 litre common-rail design with three cylinders. Its engine block is made of aluminium alloy. At 55 kW to 77 kW, power output is unchanged from the second generation of the Fabia, though engine size is now 1.4 litres, not 1.6 litres as it was. 

Late 2015 will see the launch of the most fuel-efficient ŠKODA Fabia, the GreenLine version with a 55 kW 1.4 TDI engine. A start-stop system, kinetic energy recuperation and tyres optimised for low rolling resistance combined with improvements to the car’s aerodynamics result in fuel consumption of just 3.1 l/100 km, equivalent to CO2 emissions of a mere 82 g/km

From 2015, this will make the ŠKODA Fabia GreenLine the most environment-friendly ŠKODA with a conventional power plant, surpassed only by the CNG-powered ŠKODA Citigo G-TEC.

The new ŠKODA Fabia’s weight will be up to 65 kg lower than hitherto (adjusted for equipment), with the 1.0 MPI three cylinder baseline model weighing in dry (without driver) at just 980 kg. 

The third generation of the Fabia underscores ŠKODA’s claim to fame when it comes to environment-friendly cars, embodying the company’s clear commitment that environment-conscious mobility must be affordable now and in the future, for the benefit of both customers and the planet. ŠKODA’s GreenLine, Green tec and G-TEC models, which are available for the ŠKODA model range, are cases in point.
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  • Haha. It sounds like its been buried and taken to engine heaven. With about 10 gallons of oil of course.

  • Yeah bring back the old vRS diesel.   A tuned version of the 1.6 TDI would be quite nice I reckon.   Phil

  • Im sure i wasnt the only one hoping for a diesel with around 140hp atleast. Shame.

Well I hope the Fabia III retains the ergonomics of the current model, rather than the Octy III on the MQB, or I could be running a Rapid for a very long time :giggle:

 

 

TP

Im sure i wasnt the only one hoping for a diesel with around 140hp atleast.

Shame.

Im sure i wasnt the only one hoping for a diesel with around 140hp atleast.

Shame.

 

Yeah bring back the old vRS diesel.

 

A tuned version of the 1.6 TDI would be quite nice I reckon.

 

Phil

Yeah bring back the old vRS diesel.

A tuned version of the 1.6 TDI would be quite nice I reckon.

Phil

Hmm. Wonder if the new 1.4 diesel will be capable of decent power though.

Who knows. Time will tell i guess

Where is the 1.4TSI 180? Lol

Haha. It sounds like its been buried and taken to engine heaven. With about 10 gallons of oil of course.

And a replacement engine next to that too ;)

Yeah when I first saw the title of this thread I was wondering which poor bugger was on their 3rd Engine replacement for their vRS.... ;-)

Yeah when I first saw the title of this thread I was wondering which poor bugger was on their 3rd Engine replacement for their vRS.... ;-)

Do dealers keep them in stock now like wiper blades? :notme:

Ahaha.

I keep getting told off for these comments i keep making about them.

I dont understand cos i dont drive one, apparently.

Will the present 'MK2 Fabia Face Lift's replacement be called a Fabia mk3, it is always referred to so far as the 'New Fabia'. 

 

Already enough confusion from Skoda with Fabias & 1's, 2's, 3's etc,   This one needs something to identify what it actually is, a Polo Mk5 Facelift Understudy.

Will the present 'MK2 Fabia Face Lift's replacement be called a Fabia mk3, it is always referred to so far as the 'New Fabia'. 

 

Already enough confusion from Skoda with Fabias & 1's, 2's, 3's etc,   This one needs something to identify what it actually is, a Polo Mk5 Facelift Understudy.

 

I think they will call it the MK3 since it's based on a whole new platform.

 

Like the Octavia. There's the MK2, then the MK2 FL (same platform as MK2 pre-fl) and now the MK3 which is based on the new platform.

 

Phil

Hmm. Wonder if the new 1.4 diesel will be capable of decent power though.

Who knows. Time will tell i guess

 

Well with nearly the same power as the 1.6 I see no reason why another approx 20bhp at least is achievable with a remap.

 

Will have to wait for the tuning companies are able to achieve... if they can even crack the encryption first! Will be some time before we see the first remaps. A tuning box may be a better option.

 

Phil

Once we have more cars in the UK with more Euro 6 Emission Engines and after October 2015 when New Type Approved Vehicles will have to be Euro 6 Emissions.

we can expect UK MOT Changes by 2018 probably.

(Allread UK V5's have Noise as well as Emissions displayed, and Tyre Noise etc are coming in as checks in the Future.)

 

They will go the way they wanted to and copying some US States,  plug into the OBD at MOT Time.

Check the Original Manufacturers Factory Spec, Weights, Noise, Emissions. & even Servicing History.

That tells the DVLA if the Taxation Class is adhered to, and the Car Insured as should be, Standard or Modified.

 

Sounds far fetched, but that is what EU Countries want because the UK Grey Areas and Lax MOT's annoy them.

They want Car Manufacturers to be the one that can charge for Options and Power Increases. & Governments to benefit from changes.

 

george

Edited by goneoffSKi

Fabia MK3 or whatever you call it is apparently not based on MQB platform or am I getting this wrong?

Anyhow, engine choice is really poor. Very disappointing taking into account Skoda Rally and other motorsports presence. Maybe 2015 will see MQB based vrs with new 1.6 turbo power plant?  

'Rally Inspired,' 

'Monte Carlo'

 'Motorsport Heritage,'

  "People are Interested in Styling not Performance."   They say, that must be Skoda  'Blue Sky Thinking'. or is it Volkswagens?

 

Skoda have a Heritage made from Small Capacity Engines in Motorsport like they had with the 1300 cc ones they are celebrating with a 40 Year Anniversary.

 

Yet the Success in Rallying has been with 2 litre,

and they are going rallying in the future with 1.6 litre engines.

 

It seems to be a case of 'Performance Engines & Suspension / Platforms are only a choice for VW, Audi & Seat and not for Skoda buyers.

 

george

What a depressing range of launch engines. If the Fabia 3 isn't even going to be on the new MQB platform then I can't see us buying another Fabia sadly. Our Estate vRS will probably be the last. Poor show Skoda. :-(

Might need to get SWMBO into a Golf R Estate next if VAG do indeed release it :-)

Looking at the coming Skoda range in 2015, they do seem to have lost the plot.

Especially since they are going Rallying in a car with Small Skoda shaped body of some style.

 

Their Big Sporty cars available to buy are not very powerful or offering real performance compared to the competition or even others from the Parent company,

& small Performance cars are just missing from their range.

Yet they seem to glory in past successes & might even celebrate 40 years of their first RS by building a Special Edition Big car.

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/317572-skoda-40-year-celebration-since-its-first-rs-model

 

http://rallye-info.com/article.asp?stid=11784

Edited by goneoffSKi

In an attempt to put an end to MQB platform speculation and disappointment...

 

1) The Fabia 3 is based on an updated version of the Mk2's platform, not MQB. There wont be an MQB version even if a hot version comes along (which I doubt anyway). Fabia 2 has sold well despite not being MQB. I predict Fabia 3 will sell even more, again in spite of not being MQB.

 

2) VAG's strategy looks like this. If you want a VW (i.e. MQB platform) buy a VW. If you want a 'cheap' VW, buy a SEAT (also MQB platform). If you want a 'cheap' VAG product, buy a Skoda. 

 

At the lower end of a car range (Citigo, Fabia, Rapid) the economics of using MQB are not there. Indeed, it is probably the case that the Fabia had to NOT be MQB in order to maintain the economics of having a non-MQB platform, given how sluggish Rapid sales have been. Higher up, it would have been more economical to use MQB for the Octavia 3 and Superb 3 than to have a platform solely for them while all the other VAG cars of that size and ilk used MQB. 

 

SEATs with MQB are being discounted to try to shift them. Skoda's with and especially without are being heavily discounted, but they are being shifted! It may be that the deals on SEATs just can't be as rich as those on Skodas because they will both cost more to make anyway (Spanish labour vs. Czech labour) and because they use MQB and the cost for that needs to be recuped. The vast majority of Skoda buyers wouldn't know what a 'platform' is, let alone which one they'd like to have. They still think the car has a 'chassis' in the original sense! The same is probably equally true for most VAG product buyers. 

 

Given that Skoda can't keep up with demand whereas SEAT is still struggling, the thinking behind the Skoda product and where it sits within VAG is prudent.

OK, where does fans retooling for MEN comes into the above logic or more precisely how can they justify running both platforms concurrently? If you making a shift to new platform the most economical way from the production point of view is to it range wide. Transition period is where we are ATM and Skoda was chosen to be a run off brand. Perhaps that is why they use "old" engines and there is no high performance offering from Skoda :(

I think it likely that Skoda will always be the VAG run-off brand. That's the point.

 

Where Skoda is allowed to use up-to-date tech (e.g. MQB on Octavia 3) it is because to do otherwise would be more costly. Where Skoda cannot use up-to-date tech it is because they are getting the marginal gains from running down the older tech.

 

If Skoda following this strategy allows them to be best-placed in the market for that brand, price/offering-wise, and sell as many as they can make profitably, then good luck to them. SEAT, in contrast, is hamstrung by having to use MQB because that brand permits neither the scale nor the positioning to use non-MQB tech (for example). Where they have done (the Toledo) it hasn't done well and is made by Skoda anyway!

The Platform and the names really are rather unimportant if you then build them with Budget Springs, Dampers, Bushes etc,

and as they did with the Fabia MK2 vRS stick 25 KG on the rear crash bar rather than put the Battery in the Boot & engineer Suspension to suit the car.

 

The Platforms of the Seat, Skoda, VW & Audi were the same, the 5 door vRS was the Lightest and yet got Sandbagged to make it appear heavier than the 

Estate from Skoda, and the 3 more expensive sister cars.

 

The Platform that was used for the Cupra, vRS. GTI and A1 has since been Modified to have a Haldex System

& also given Multi Link Suspension.& that is the 2014 Audi S1.

Getting Handling and performance from components and platforms already within the Parent Companies available parts is not exactly challenging.

 

If the Mk2 Fabia FL replacement has had any consideration or engineering excellence put into it, whatever the name or code of the platform it should 

steer and handle, stop and go well.

That is all that anyone can expect from them, and demand really.

Building Lemons or Evolution Vehicles that still have faults after the 3rd or 4th edition is inexcusable.

 

george

Edited by goneoffSKi

I was expecting, perhaps naively, a 1.4 tsi of at least 122bhp or 140bhp instead of the VRs. Pity. Tsi 110bhp fast enough for most of us? Not sure it will be.

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