+1 more for the Goodyear F1 AS2 

 

It was a toss up between the Goodyear Efficient Grip and the F1's and it was only a few £ more so plumped for the F1. These were going on the back and since the previous tires had saw toothed so I avoided Mitchelin which IIRC are renowned for being pretty bad for this. 
 

Local tyre dealer beat the Black circles price by a few £. Hadn't though about the Camskill route but for those I was unlikely to save much at £10 fitting.

@  ninjaVRS

 

Did you decide/buy any tyres?

If you can get the fitting done on the cheap, Love Tyres will get you 4 of the F1's for £350 delivered.

It's all about your driving style.

 

There is no "BEST" tyre - BEST is fancy word created by retarded modern society who believes that there are universal things in nature.

 

It is all about compromise and your driving style.

 

I drive aggressive racing style taught during my karting career and mastered during long drives in Scottish Highlands.

 

My favourite "summer" tyre is Yokohama A.Drive or C.Drive - very soft, "best" grip on wet I've seen on standard sizes. Quite strong walls and they don't bend too much under pressure. I destroy those tires in about 2000km.

 

My second choice used to be Continental EcoContact3 or SportContact - it is most likely "best" summer tyre money can buy. Lifespan in my case about 2500km - wet performance very poor.

 

My latest solution is so called winter tires. There is no really winter tires - unless you live in Alpine countries where FIA winter tires with spikes are allowed :-D

 

If you need compromise for wet roads, off-road and still do lots of tarmac road driving - winner is Continental WinterContact T800 or new ones T850. These babies have unbelievable grip in wet roads, even with 1cm of water on road (due great construction of thread). Decent grip on gravel (I spent lots of time by driving in mountains and these roads are usually gravel, tarmac, sand - rally stage simply put). What is most interesting - no increased fuel consumption. Only downside is slightly increased noise, especially in heavy cornering. They have very stiff walls - unlike most tyres, which are like butter. Yet, another surprise is - they last about 10k in my case, which is record for cheap tyres :-D I'm talking about 185/60 R14.

 

Of course, if you have large dia rims with tyres 200+/25-45. It is slightly another story but it may be same principle with less tyre damage due shorter side-walls.

 

Most important thing is suspension. I see many demented tuners to pimp their engines and then crash in first corner. There is a rule in motorsport - suspension must be faster than engine.

 

Above by mentioned tyre experience is based on Powerflex polyurethane bushes on wishbones and stabilisators + Weitec suspension (medium stiffness with lowering 25mm). With normal stock suspension - I damage tyres in half time, including stock bushes every 5000km.

 

P0werflex + Weitec Suspension + Conti WinterContac3 = 10k km, suspension lasts 2 years so far and Poweflex is immortal. I forgot...ball joints and other stock stuff shares same fate as most consumables on cars...max 30,000km lifespan.

2 weeks since the thread being written

Any progress ?

Of course, you can try racing tyres such as Toyo or Yokohama - I believe they are made for sport cars as yours. Question is - how many kilometres do you travel every year?

 

I do about 30,000km per year - for me it is all about bang per buck.

 

Funny story told by my friend...he had Toyo tyres...he said they are ****...no wonder if you try to drive hard on cold tyres and believe they will warm up during 2km drive in to work :-D

 

It is like racing brake pads - they need to warm up before they start to break efficiently.

 

 

Start with your driving style and then find anything that suits you. There is no BEST...everything is just a tool. Think about strategy.

 

STRATEGY IS BEYOND THE TECHNIQUES. TECHNIQUE IS BEYOND THE TOOLS.

 

Every master I've been learning from can drive on **** and still almost win. Don't worry about tools and spend money on karting and rally school. It is best money spent ;-)

 

I wasted so much money and if I see modern tuners...it makes me laugh how stupid I was ;-)

So guys - appreciate there isn't such as thing as "the best tyre". Although if I could find one that is A rated for wet stopping, A rated for fuel efficiency, 10db sound, soft when they need to be, hard when they need to be and last around 40k miles.

That not being a product that exists.....

I need 4 new tyres and the Goodyear F1's seem to be getting write-up's galore telling us they are a good all round tyre, plenty of grip and I'm told wear quite nicely too.

I haven't got a tame tyre fitter, so I'm looking at £416 fully fitted for the 4. I'd like to get these ordered ASAP - my fronts are on the limit at the moment.

Will I regret this choice?

 

Cheers all.

Michlen pilot sport 3's on the front of mine after dealer stuck some cheap dodgy rubbish on mine, when I bought it, they are on the back now the ps3 are extremely good especially in the wet, not too sure on wear.

They are down to 4mm after 3.5k miles but I do like to accelerate fairly hard but not to the extremes.

 

 

Interesting, I went from Dunlop Sport Max on the front, which I rated for grip/traction, but which wore out in 10k miles to the Pilot Sport 3's which I've found much worse pulling away in the wet. Hopefully will last longer though!

 

Sport Max certainly suffer from Scalloping and Noise on the rear though :(

So guys - appreciate there isn't such as thing as "the best tyre". Although if I could find one that is A rated for wet stopping, A rated for fuel efficiency, 10db sound, soft when they need to be, hard when they need to be and last around 40k miles.

That not being a product that exists.....

I need 4 new tyres and the Goodyear F1's seem to be getting write-up's galore telling us they are a good all round tyre, plenty of grip and I'm told wear quite nicely too.

I haven't got a tame tyre fitter, so I'm looking at £416 fully fitted for the 4. I'd like to get these ordered ASAP - my fronts are on the limit at the moment.

Will I regret this choice?

 

Cheers all.

 

I don't think you'll regret it for a moment. I'm on my second set on the rear (first set lasted over 30k miles) and I've done 15k on the current fronts and there's still 4mm of tread left. And rest assured, I don't drive it like an octogenarian! 

I don't think you'll regret it for a moment. I'm on my second set on the rear (first set lasted over 30k miles) and I've done 15k on the current fronts and there's still 4mm of tread left. And rest assured, I don't drive it like an octogenarian! 

 

Thanks for that. Think I'll get these ordered and fitted then.

I despise the price and wear of continental sport contact 5's. However; their grip on the wet and dry is very good. They seem to keep holding where I expect (and feel) the car should start to slip. I don't think I'd change them, unless it was for hancook tyres.

So guys - appreciate there isn't such as thing as "the best tyre". Although if I could find one that is A rated for wet stopping, A rated for fuel efficiency, 10db sound, soft when they need to be, hard when they need to be and last around 40k miles.

That not being a product that exists.....

I need 4 new tyres and the Goodyear F1's seem to be getting write-up's galore telling us they are a good all round tyre, plenty of grip and I'm told wear quite nicely too.

I haven't got a tame tyre fitter, so I'm looking at £416 fully fitted for the 4. I'd like to get these ordered ASAP - my fronts are on the limit at the moment.

Will I regret this choice?

 

Cheers all.

You are looking for something that doesn't exist ;-)

 

Go to car racing and check out wet tyres. They are similar to C4/Semtex. That's where comes grip from.

 

It doesn't matter what dry tyres you have because it doesn't make any difference unless you have slicks.

 

I stopped to bother about tests because they are made by social drivers. Ask guys who push it hard (as me ;-).

 

I suggest you to do testing by yourself - that is the best fun

if you want an all rounder tyre the Goodyear efficent grip performance is a better choice than the f1 imo. The f1 seems more performance orientated where as the efficent grip performance seems quieter with very good wear rate and very good grip

In the end I went for the F1's. Got 4, fully fitted for £395, which seems reasonable.

Only had them on for one day and about 30 miles, so cannot comment at the moment.

Good choice

Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2's

The best tyres Ive ever had