I would not be put off buying an ex demo.  My one was Ex-demo and the guy who sold it to me was the custodian.  He was clear before we done the deal, that no customer had ever had it as a courtesy car. When went on the test drive we went to Tesco's first for fuel, his first words were "little tip, these should always be run on Tesco's 99 or Shell V-power"  that me happy knowing that it had been looked after properly.  It all depends on the dealer of course, Then it turned out the guy had an old scirocco and was into the whole vag scene, for once a car salesman into his cars.  I remember them spending more time going over my old civic Type R at the time because both he and the principle were after one.

 

Every car on an individual basis.  Oh and as already said 12-13k for a 2014 car, bargain.

£15.5k!!

 

They are having a laugh!

 

Indeed.

When they were selling them new, you could get one for less than that.

This is all fantastic stuff. Thanks!

They are making plenty, it is a 3 month old /3,000 mile Demonstrator they got from 'Skoda' for Much Cheapness,

& some Salesperson had the perk of putting the miles on it.

Is it even at 4,000 miles yet?

Plenty fully loaded Bargains at various UK Dealers, & £15,500 Asking is them wanting to ring every penny from it,

and that is their job, so fair enough.

Only they are asking £3,000 more than they deserve.

Ask the Salesperson about CAVE Engines & CTHE & failing CTHE & Spark Plugs & Service Intervals,

Wind them up.

& ask if they every heard about a Plonker Called George that killed the Residuals,

& the vRS Expert call vhx26

Maybe Print this & show the salesmanager and offer them £12,000

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

Haha, suggest not doing this as they might kick you out of the place.

Good if they do, because there are no shortage of dealers that will take the low offer.

 

Buyers market on Twinchargers, no salesperson can seriously try the Hens Teeth ploy,

Skoda UK got them out to Dealers and Registered & now dealers need them shifted,

wipe their face, there is no big profits.

& Skoda / VW are to blame for that, they should be a bit more honest & open.

It's not as bad idea as you might think.

 

Letting the salesperson know that you have read up and know your stuff about cars in general or just about the model you are after can really help.

 

They know they can't pull the wool over your eyes or bend the truth slightly to get the deal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not like a car salesperson would ever do such a thing.

I've had a look at the Skoda used website and the one I'm looking at is the 4th most expensive one in the country or something!

Think I'll be aiming for a deal or walking based on that.

The few left advertised on Autotrader with under 1,000 miles are looking higher priced now, but they are just 'Asking Prices'

Still the White vRS Estate  is a possible bargain.

I like the Grey Metallic Estate.

http://autotrader.co.uk

Edited 19 January, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

I take it that the car you are considering has actually done about 6,000 miles and they are asking £15,500 for it.  As has been pointed out, that is way OTT. You should be able to get at least £2,500 off that figure. Any extras really don't count for much.

 

Again, as has been pointed out, the biggest issue is that it will probably regularly have been driven from cold "as if it was stolen" by a series of tyre-kickers. This isn't going to have helped. On the other hand it will have the later engine (CTHE) and they do appear to have been more reliable than the earlier CAVE engine.

 

I would suggest that you should look to add on two years additional warranty - negotiating point. If you keep the car, it will be reassuring - if you don't, it will reassure any subsequent buyer. Consistently fill up with widely available 97 RON fuel and check the oil level at least every 500 miles.

 

Despite the nonsense you will read here,the later Mk.II Skoda Fabia vRS is a lovely car. The engine is superb and the DSG is even better!  Sadly, it is kinda noisy (wind & road) and does crash about over the God-awful roads from which we all suffer (the very low profile tyres don't help much)

 

Go for it - Good Luck

I've had a look at the Skoda used website and the one I'm looking at is the 4th most expensive one in the country or something!

Think I'll be aiming for a deal or walking based on that.

All the best in your "TOUGH DEALING".

Three best times to buy and push for the best deal :

Couple of days before month end.

Last week of business year.

Watch out for dealer Selling off of Pre-Registered delivery mileage cars.

Done all three and achieved great results.

Edited 20 January, 201511 yr by vrskeith

Despite the nonsense you will read here,the later Mk.II Skoda Fabia vRS is a lovely car.

 

Nearly fell off my chair with this statement..... so much hypocrisy it hurts!

 

So does this answer the age old question "does everyone's favourite poster vxh26 actually own a MK2 VRS?"

Cold it should be above the crosshatch and not at the top orange marker. Too many get over filled.

I think that is the first time you have EVER given specific advice on checking the oil level.

 

Unsurprisingly I don't think it is what appears in the manual which I believe talks about 'Zone A' and 'Zone B'. That may explain why you are so concerned about overfilling

I think you might be wrong, actually i know you are wrong about what advice i give, and it is in the posts where i give it..

 

You study the manual quite a lot, 

do you ever dip the oil.

Do you know the same dipstick is used in engines that have, 3.6, 3.9 & 4.2 Litre Capacities?

 

Do you clearly see in the manual where Area 'A; is & do you have a Skoda Dipstick you could go check?

vxh26,  this is getting very wearing,  

and do you have any assistance you can lend anyone from actual experience of running a vRS, changing oil dipping oil,

knowing where the oil level will show, how many times have you now looked under a MK2 Fabia vRS bonnet.?

 

or is all our knowledge from reading forums and manuals, and other written material.?

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or is all our knowledge from reading forums and manuals, and other written material.?

I simply can't imagine what the source of your information is, I certainly don't think it comes from any official manual.

 

However, without waffling, deviation or random abuse, perhaps you would care to give accurate, officially verifiable advice on carrying out a "cold" oil check on a Fabia vRS and topping up? To get you started, this is likely to include references to:

• Lower orange plastic
• Zone below hatched area
• Hatched area
• Zone above hatched area
• Upper orange plastic
• How much oil takes you from the bottom of the hatched area to the top

Go on then, AMAZE me

I can tell you it takes over 1.2 litres from the Bottom Orange ball to have the oil back to 3.6 litres in.

& often over 1.5 litres from a Warning Light or message showing 'Low Oil'.

 

Now dude i have no idea what your issue is, or interest in the Mk2 vRS.

 

The cold check lets you know there is enough oil in, and also not overfilled.

 

The 'Manual' tells you 'Warm'  the VW Manual tells you Operating Temperature,

The Owners Manual tells you only the 44 kw is checked Cold.

The Official Video tells you nothing about, Cold. Warm, Operating Temperature or Hot.

 

The Owners Manual covers Engines from 44kw to 132 & 136 kw,

Petrol, Diesel & 3 or 4 cylinder and oil capacities, of 3.2, 3.6, 3.9 & 4.2 litre oil capacity.

& lots is lost in Translation.  May, Must, Should., & diagrams are misleading.

 

So do your oil as you interpret how you should.

which is why so many are running 25% low, and some are over filled.

I simply can't imagine what the source of your information is, I certainly don't think it comes from any official manual.

A lot of members find George's advice very helpful, myself included.

If it came from the official manual, nobody would understand it, but you'd know that as you've read it no?

George's advise comes from actually OWNING and living with one. IMO that gives you the experience and knowledge to give advice. Certainly more than a muppet Skoda salesman. Most of those fools wouldn't know if its an Octavia or not if it wasn't for the badge on the back.

Oh look at me I'm digressing again! What I'm trying to say is, I don't understand what your personal vendetta towards George is? He is only trying to help, something you and your not so funny comments can't claim as well.

Cheers.

Posts for the OP were about what to look for and expect when going to buy cars,

not on topping up oil, the difference between topping up only 0.5 litres at a time etc.

 

Just being sure a car on a forecourt is not already overfilled with oil,

easily checked on a Stone Cold Engine.   Pop the Bonnet when the car is first viewed before starting it.

As long as it is parked on the flat.

I suspect that George knows a great deal about the Skoda Fabia vRS, certainly far more than I do. However, he is a prolific poster who from time to time manages unwittingly to spread unsubstantiated Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

 

From time to time George makes "helpful" posts that are incomplete, incomprehensible or vague to the point of misinformation; I am simply trying to encourage him to clarify some of his posts and to give up on his rants.

 

Incidentally, you might wonder why it is that George has a personal vendetta towards the Volkswagen Group

And the answer is please?  

Why do i have a personal vandetta towards VW, if i do according to you.?  

& who are you actually?

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/296697-how-harsh-is-the-ride-in-a-fabia-vrs

What is the mileage you have actually covered in the past 15 months or so in a Fabia?

 

What fear.?

The Warnings are to stop people being stung by buying one of the 1,800 Skoda Twinchargers that might have had issues,

and may or may not have them resolved.

 

People getting hit in the pocket, due to Manufacturing, Design, Quality Control and issues with Volkswagens Honesty.

 

?

So what have you to add to help people that have purchased faulty or potentially faulty cars built 2010-2012

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

These are some of the issues with the early engines, CAVE,

Now some later CTHE engines, the revised ones have potential problems.

?

Any comments from VW, Skoda, Audi or Seat on the problems being resolved, & how would be good.

Edited 20 January, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

That's an unexpected can of worms I've opened!

Had a look at CAP and Glass's and values for this car are £11800 on CAP and £13000 on Glass's so I'll be using those in my discussion with the dealership - they already told me they'd be using those to value my trade in so they can't really argue if I'm using them to value the car I'm buying.

That's an unexpected can of worms I've opened!

Had a look at CAP and Glass's and values for this car are £11800 on CAP and £13000 on Glass's so I'll be using those in my discussion with the dealership - they already told me they'd be using those to value my trade in so they can't really argue if I'm using them to value the car I'm buying.

Go by the experience and actuals obtained by the members you have asked on this thread and you will get a good deal.

Think that most of us have suggest around the £12500 - £13500. Dealers go by their book and add approx. £2.5 k on for selling. So around 15% return gross margin.

They want a sale and the used vRS sold (gone),

they know the very least they can get for your trade in, and they know where it is going to.

 

It is not just about Profit on each car, which basically and obviously they need, that is their business,

but they need Turn Over, stock moved and Money (Cash or Finanace)  in and out.

 

So what they do not need is Ex Demonstrators sitting too long, Demonstrators can be good earners for them,

which is why they want them away for the best price once 3 months / 3,000 miles has been covered,

Name a fair price, you've got a few example to base it on and then stick to it. You don't want to end up feeling you paid more than you should have.

Whatever you do, do NOT forget the two years' extended warranty. The vRS has an unjustified bad reputation for needing expensive repairs and the warranty will help to offset the percieved risk, especially if you end up selling the car after a couple of years.

 

Two other things to remember:

1. Unless there is another local Skoda dealer, don't make enemies of the service department, you may need their help sometime - the Used Car Salesman is a diffgerent matter
2. If you buy the car, for God's sake give the oil time to warm up adequately before calling on the engine's very considerable preformance.

Finally . . . the 1.4 TSI engine is a work of genius but the DSG box was designed by God and a team of Angels!