Hi all.  

 

My car is littered with stone chips and a handful of them are into the metal and rusting.  Will I be looking at a respray or will a garage be able to clean and repair the chips nicely?

 

Any ideas how much it'd cost for either?

 

Thanks

Just had a quote back from a local garage for a bonnet respray of £200+VAT which is obviously £240.

 

Seems like a fair price, but I don't want to spend that much.  Is there a good way to just clean the rust and fill them with paint on a cocktail stick etc?

Yes..You can but it just patching

If done well, they wont look too bad

Yes..You can but it just patching

If done well, they wont look too bad

 

Do you have a guide? I'm searching right now. Thanks.

I dont...but I can look for you too

 

EDIT:

Heres an old one on DW: HERE

+ VIDEO

Edited 29 January, 201511 yr by ChrisRs

Hi all.  

 

My car is littered with stone chips and a handful of them are into the metal and rusting.  Will I be looking at a respray or will a garage be able to clean and repair the chips nicely?

 

Any ideas how much it'd cost for either?

 

Thanks

It will depend how good a finish you want. Repairing various areas on the same panel would be very time consuming & you won't get a universal paint match.

It will depend how good a finish you want. Repairing various areas on the same panel would be very time consuming & you won't get a universal paint match.

 

That's what I'm thinking.  I'll get some photos tonight, and see what you all think.  I take it £240 is a going rate? 

I dont...but I can look for you too

 

EDIT:

Heres an old one on DW: HERE

+ VIDEO

Wow that video makes it look so easy, and also so very brutal!  I'm getting butterflies just at the thought of taking sandpaper anywhere near paint work!

Best to get an expert to do it rather than yourself

You need a decent polisher too and a fair amount of experience

That's what I'm thinking.  I'll get some photos tonight, and see what you all think.  I take it £240 is a going rate?

Sounds a tad expensive, but as said, depends what finish you want really. Does the £240 include it blowing paint onto the wings so as to get a good finish, ie good paint match. It's always difficult when painting 1 panel to try & get it perfect.

Agree with nm. Needs to be blended in ideally. Just been to my spray guy who I really rate. £180 to remove the rear bumper, strip down the paint and respray. The clown who did it before I got the car just sprayed on top of the old coat and now its peeling away!

So, basically, I want to look after the car as best I can, but I cannot justify spending £500+ to get the bumpers and bonnet done.  It's basically going to have to be a case of repairing the rusty ones.  So I'm thinking of basically cleaning them and removing the rust as best I can and then using a small brush/cocktail stick to apply some primer, then use a kit like this:

 

http://www.chipex.co.uk/how-chipex-works/

 

And for rust removal:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jenolite-Rust-Treatment-jelly-40G/dp/B004UGGH16/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1360322301&sr=8-5

Edited 11 February, 201511 yr by planehazza

There's a thread somewhere (not on here) about how to get a decent finish yourself by mixing some paint and lacquer applying to paint, wiping off then using a polisher to get it all shiny. Results were impressive.

Found- second half of this guide 're the bumper

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=217520

Found- second half of this guide 're the bumper

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=217520

 

Holy ****!  That I've got to try.  Will have a go on a plastic bumper first.  If I **** it up, I can remove the bumper and have it resprayed worst case. Just got to read up now on best ways to remove rust completely.  This is going to push me to get a DA polisher, I can see it!

Holy ****!  That I've got to try.  Will have a go on a plastic bumper first.  If I **** it up, I can remove the bumper and have it resprayed worst case. Just got to read up now on best ways to remove rust completely.  This is going to push me to get a DA polisher, I can see it!

Bilt hamber do a rust gel thing - I'd have a look at that.

 

I think you have also just volunteered to do a mini guide I know there is one there but you 'Could' do a little trial and error on a small patch regarding length of curing times??1?!? haha

Bilt hamber do a rust gel thing - I'd have a look at that.

 

I think you have also just volunteered to do a mini guide I know there is one there but you 'Could' do a little trial and error on a small patch regarding length of curing times??1?!? haha

 

Yeah I was thinking that myself.  I'll happily do it as it contributes back to the forum a bit. The problem is that I'm a novice and have never used a machine polisher so it might take a while before I get used to it and get the balls to take sandpaper to my paint work haha.

 

This should do nicely I think

 

http://liquidelementsuk.co.uk/collections/polishing-machines/products/das-6-pro-plus-polishing-kit-t3000-cps

Edited 11 February, 201511 yr by planehazza

Pretty sure you don't need sandpaper for the stonechips / bumper method do you? I must admit been a long while since I read it.

Pretty sure you don't need sandpaper for the stonechips / bumper method do you? I must admit been a long while since I read it.

 

Not on the bumper, but on the metal panels where the rust has started to push up the surrounding paint. Not bubbles as such, just the hard edges where there is not event primer left.

Russ who did that post is a very experienced detailer and worked in a body shop for years before that. It's a fantastically helpful thread ey!

It does sound daunting pal (and is daunting!), I remember the first time I took wet and dry out on my paintwork. I don't do it often as the clearcoat is there to protect your car and its paint. It is always a trade off between looks and protection. There is plenty of clear coat there normally, but you should definitely air on the side of caution. A paint depth gauge would be highly benefitial before doing it.

Not on the bumper, but on the metal panels where the rust has started to push up the surrounding paint. Not bubbles as such, just the hard edges where there is not event primer left.

To tackle aomething like bubbling paint is pretty brave buddy. Nice one! Defo interested in how you get on with it.

To tackle aomething like bubbling paint is pretty brave buddy. Nice one! Defo interested in how you get on with it.

 

Well like I say, I'm going to tackle the bumper first because I can always cough up for a respray if I balls it up...

 

So I'm thinking clean the car, use a clay bar to remove as much loose rust as possible, then finish off with rust remover such as the Bilt hamber stuff as posted above.  IPA to remove any greases/chemicals then try the method by Russ, linked above?  Tomorrow I'll get some images in daylight to show you how bad areas of my car really are...

Edited 11 February, 201511 yr by planehazza

Some photos of the various chips and scatches on my car.  Looking at them closely, it doesn't look like I can fix them using that fill with paint then machine polish method :(

 

Front bumper:

 

 

Bonnet, roof and panels:

 

 

 

etc etc...

 

The ones in metal I reckon I can probably fix by cleaning them, and very carefully picking out any lose bits of paint then applying primer, and thin layers of 50/50 paint/lacquer mixture, with wet and dry and then a machine polish.  The bumper looks a lot trickier as with it being soft plastic, the stones have actually deformed the plastic into little craters, shown in the first two photos...

Edited 12 February, 201511 yr by planehazza

You need to get a de nibbing tool. Saves all that sanding!

You need to get a de nibbing tool. Saves all that sanding!

have you got a recommendation please pal? Google brings up a few different things and I don't really know what I'm looking for. Cheers!