It is nice to get in out of the rain, work in the vehicle,

put up an Awning to the side if possible.,

Side doors to both sides when working with Karts is a good idea.

What about a Nissan NV200?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501290538502?atmobcid=soc3

Edited 2 February, 201511 yr by Mikek3111

Already torn that page to bits mate. It's plain wrong.

 

No, it's quite correct.  Those vehicles (Nemo, Bipper) are not homologated as car derived vans, so the lower speed limits do apply to them.

I thought it was the weight rating of the van that determined the speed limit

I have a berlingo van rated to 600kg's loading weight. I can go the same speed as a normal car.

Some of the other vans are rated at 750kg's loading and they are restricted to 50mph on a roads and 60mph on dual carriageways. Which imo is a load of *******s

No, it's quite correct.  Those vehicles (Nemo, Bipper) are not homologated as car derived vans, so the lower speed limits do apply to them.

I haven't looked at the V5 of a Nemo or a Bipper, but I can tell you straight up that their statement about Berlingos is incorrect as I've had four of them, all classified on the V5 as car derived vans. They're feeding misinformation and hearsay.

Seats removed in the Qubo, Bipper Passenger Cars then no Issies, Nemo Passenger Car is more basic and the Seat a PITA.

 

http://whatvan.co.uk/news/2012/speed-warning-for-nemofiorinobipper-drivers

 

Police Officers often need to use discretion since they do not always seem to know the NSL's for the 

Transit Connects they are driving, or the Mobile Speed Camera Vans & ANPR Vans being used by them or the 'Speed Camera Partnerships', operating in their area and transiting between locations.

Edited 3 February, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

I thought it was the weight rating of the van that determined the speed limit

I have a berlingo van rated to 600kg's loading weight. I can go the same speed as a normal car.

Some of the other vans are rated at 750kg's loading and they are restricted to 50mph on a roads and 60mph on dual carriageways. Which imo is a load of *******s

 

It's the maximum authorised mass which is the key, is it over 2 tonnes?  An old shape Berlingo / Partner was car derived and under 2 tonnes, the current shape has an MAM over 2 tonnes (when they first came out it was 2044kg) therefore they are subject to the lower speed limits.  The payload rating is completely irrelevant.

 

I haven't looked at the V5 of a Nemo or a Bipper, but I can tell you straight up that their statement about Berlingos is incorrect as I've had four of them, all classified on the V5 as car derived vans. They're feeding misinformation and hearsay.

 

I have seen the v5 for a Nemo which belonged to a local Citroen dealer and it was not shown as a car derived van.  Also note the comment above about MAM, if that is over 2 tonnes it doesn't matter whether it is car derived or not.

 

In short, to be permitted to travel at car speeds a van has to be both homologated as 'Car Derived' AND have an MAM of 2 tonnes or less.  If it fails either of those tests then it is restricted to the lower limits.

It's the maximum authorised mass which is the key, is it over 2 tonnes? An old shape Berlingo / Partner was car derived and under 2 tonnes, the current shape has an MAM over 2 tonnes (when they first came out it was 2044kg) therefore they are subject to the lower speed limits. The payload rating is completely irrelevant.

I have seen the v5 for a Nemo which belonged to a local Citroen dealer and it was not shown as a car derived van. Also note the comment above about MAM, if that is over 2 tonnes it doesn't matter whether it is car derived or not.

In short, to be permitted to travel at car speeds a van has to be both homologated as 'Car Derived' AND have an MAM of 2 tonnes or less. If it fails either of those tests then it is restricted to the lower limits.

My 59 plate new shape berlingo van has a loading capacity of 625kg's

The other berlingo on an 11 plate looks exactly the same but has a loading capacity of 750kg's

My van can do 60mph on a roads and 70mph on dual carriagways. The newer van with higher loading can only do 50mph on an a road and 60mph on a dual carriagway

My company looked into this as someone got caught at 60mph on an a road in a 750kg loading capacity one

So because the 750kg's van loading limit pushes it over 2 tonnes then it gets a lower speed limit. Totally horse poop if you ask me. Lucky if either van carries over 200kgs's ever

It's the maximum authorised mass which is the key, is it over 2 tonnes?  An old shape Berlingo / Partner was car derived and under 2 tonnes, the current shape has an MAM over 2 tonnes (when they first came out it was 2044kg) therefore they are subject to the lower speed limits.  The payload rating is completely irrelevant.

 

 

I have seen the v5 for a Nemo which belonged to a local Citroen dealer and it was not shown as a car derived van.  Also note the comment above about MAM, if that is over 2 tonnes it doesn't matter whether it is car derived or not.

 

In short, to be permitted to travel at car speeds a van has to be both homologated as 'Car Derived' AND have an MAM of 2 tonnes or less.  If it fails either of those tests then it is restricted to the lower limits.

 

But quite simply, the V5 tells you whether the vehicle is a car derived van or not, and takes out all the confusion. Two identical vans except for a solid steel bulkhead can be panel van an/or car derived van respectively. The Nemo you saw might've been registered as a panel van, and another one might've been registered as a car derived van (highly unlikely given their status). But there are 4 on Autotrader which are listed as CDV, and I don't doubt they're incorrectly listed. But if they are CDV on the V5 then they are irrefutably a car derived van.

Berlingo gross vehicles weights

625 berlingo - gross 1935kg's. (60/70mph)

750 berlingo - gross 2130kg's. (50/60mph)

850 berlingo - gross 2165kg's. (50/60mph)

The UK Government years ago should have actually addressed this with VOSA  & DVLA.

 

As Commercials & Light Goods Vehicles, and even Passenger vehicles are first Registered or SVA / IVA tested issue 

the Display Stickers for the Dash Area & Rear of the vehicle to show the Max Speed Limits that apply,

or a Clear Code for the Stickers to apply to the vehicles by the Supplying Dealer or Importer.

 

Clearly displayed on the Rear or Trailers & Caravans as well,  

but then we used to have those Stickers Displayed on Caravans.  & other EU HGV's have Speed Stickers.

Berlingo gross vehicles weights

625 berlingo - gross 1935kg's. (60/70mph)

750 berlingo - gross 2130kg's. (50/60mph)

850 berlingo - gross 2165kg's. (50/60mph)

 

 

As long as the '625' is homologated as a car derived van, that would be correct.

Just get a VW caravelle and remove some of the seats.

The UK Government years ago should have actually addressed this with VOSA & DVLA.

As Commercials & Light Goods Vehicles, and even Passenger vehicles are first Registered or SVA / IVA tested issue

the Display Stickers for the Dash Area & Rear of the vehicle to show the Max Speed Limits that apply,

or a Clear Code for the Stickers to apply to the vehicles by the Supplying Dealer or Importer.

Clearly displayed on the Rear or Trailers & Caravans as well,

but then we used to have those Stickers Displayed on Caravans. & other EU HGV's have Speed Stickers.

Yup this is where it gets confusing

All our berlingo's look the exact same and all have private plates so you have no idea which one your driving unless your a car head and can realise you have the more powerfull 750

Totally stoopid

Just get a VW caravelle and remove some of the seats.

Looks like I'm proper car hunting next week

Bought a kart today,arrives Friday so will no all exact measurements by then

Exciting stuff!