Is anyone here a networking guru? Really starting to annoy me now haha!

I have got another wireless router for my bedroom/av room as itd a garage conversion which is detached from my house where the main virgin hub is.

I have a lan cable running from the house into my room into a wired lan router. I want to change this to wireless as i hate using my laptop with the lan cable so m trying to get this secondary wifi router to work and i just cant get it working!

So the structure of the network is as follows ...

Internet > Virgin Hub via Cable > AV Room via CAT5 > Netgear Router.

Ive changed all sorts of settings including stopping DHCP on the netgear router and the one thing i thinks stopping it working the IP address .. ive got 192.168.0.1 on the virgin and 192.168.1.1 on the Netgear.

Am i right in thinking the Netgear needs to be on the same IP but outside of the DHCP pool (virgins is set to 192.168.0.2-192.168.0.254)? For some reason the Netgear wont let me change it as its not matching the ip mask or something along them lines.

At this point ive been trying for 4 hours and i give up - I need help!

So does anyone know anything at all about networking? [emoji53] [emoji53]

No, this should be really easy to get working assuming the second router is a virgin one as well.

 

The text below assumes the second router is the one in the shed.

 

1) Reset second router back to default settings.

2) Plug the LAN cable from the original router into the WAN port on the second router.

3) Turn it all on

4) connect laptop top SSID of router in shed

5) Job done.

 

If you are using an old ADSL router, its a whole lot more complicated

 

1) Reset second router to factory default

2) Power up router, connect to SSID using laptop

3) Configure router with an IP address compatible with your own LAN (192.168.0.x), disable router DHCP.

4) Plug LAN cable from first router into spare ethernet port on second router.

5) Turn second router off/on again.

6) connect laptop to second router SSID

7) jobs done, should all work.

Because you are bypassing the router and just using it as an access point and not a router the IP address needs to be in the same range.

 

Using an old cable router is so much easier, because it assumes the connection to the main virgin router is actually a virgin media outside connection. Essentially the second cable router will DHCP from the first and route across the WAN port all traffic as if it were really the internet. Its complicated to explain but it will work.

 

You could set them all with the same SSID and wireless key as long as you configure them on different channels.

Edited 11 February, 201511 yr by mannyo

No, this should be really easy to get working assuming the second router is a virgin one as well.

 

The text below assumes the second router is the one in the shed.

 

1) Reset second router back to default settings.

2) Plug the LAN cable from the original router into the WAN port on the second router.

3) Turn it all on

4) connect laptop top SSID of router in shed

5) Job done.

 

If you are using an old ADSL router, its a whole lot more complicated

 

1) Reset second router to factory default

2) Power up router, connect to SSID using laptop

3) Configure router with an IP address compatible with your own LAN (192.168.0.x), disable router DHCP.

4) Plug LAN cable from first router into spare ethernet port on second router.

5) Turn second router off/on again.

6) connect laptop to second router SSID

7) jobs done, should all work.

Because you are bypassing the router and just using it as an access point and not a router the IP address needs to be in the same range.

 

Using an old cable router is so much easier, because it assumes the connection to the main virgin router is actually a virgin media outside connection. Essentially the second cable router will DHCP from the first and route across the WAN port all traffic as if it were really the internet. Its complicated to explain but it will work.

 

You could set them all with the same SSID and wireless key as long as you configure them on different channels.

 

Ive tried a lot of diffrent settings to be honest. As i mentioned one is the Virgin superhub and the other is a netgear rangamx i think ... they just dont want to know eachother. i thought it was working at one point i had it receiving internet through the wifi then all of a sudden it said no internet access. Then if you close the connection then connect again it would then receive internet then say no internet access again!

 

I hate networking haha!

 

Ive seen people doing it on youtube and it looks soo simple but its not haha!

Edited 11 February, 201511 yr by AaronJeff

No, this should be really easy to get working assuming the second router is a virgin one as well.

 

The text below assumes the second router is the one in the shed.

 

1) Reset second router back to default settings.

2) Plug the LAN cable from the original router into the WAN port on the second router.

3) Turn it all on

4) connect laptop top SSID of router in shed

5) Job done.

 

If you are using an old ADSL router, its a whole lot more complicated

 

1) Reset second router to factory default

2) Power up router, connect to SSID using laptop

3) Configure router with an IP address compatible with your own LAN (192.168.0.x), disable router DHCP.

4) Plug LAN cable from first router into spare ethernet port on second router.

5) Turn second router off/on again.

6) connect laptop to second router SSID

7) jobs done, should all work.

Because you are bypassing the router and just using it as an access point and not a router the IP address needs to be in the same range.

 

Using an old cable router is so much easier, because it assumes the connection to the main virgin router is actually a virgin media outside connection. Essentially the second cable router will DHCP from the first and route across the WAN port all traffic as if it were really the internet. Its complicated to explain but it will work.

 

You could set them all with the same SSID and wireless key as long as you configure them on different channels.

 

So what i want is the second router (netgear) to basically run as a wifi extender for the virgin but with a seperate SSID. So when im in the house ill be connected to virgin, when im in my garage ill be connected to the netgear.

 

Is this even possible?

 

Sorry if i sound thick im alright with pc's themselfs but ive never played with networks im normally a plug and play guy when it comes to this!

I think you need to reduce the DHCP range on the virgin router say to 192.168.0.10 to 192.168.0.254. Then give you other router the ip address of 192.168.0.5. You may have been getting ip conflicts .

I think you need to reduce the DHCP range on the virgin router say to 192.168.0.10 to 192.168.0.254. Then give you other router the ip address of 192.168.0.5. You may have been getting ip conflicts .

 

Ok so i chagned the virgin pool to 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.0.99 and then i tried to change the ip of the netgear router to 192.168.0.101 but for some reason it wont accept it because of the subnet mask? it keeps reverting back to 19.168.1.1 - does the 3rd number in the series have to be the same?

the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 on the virgin and netgear btw

I don't know, looks like it should work. Unless the netgear wont let you change it?

This should be easy

1, Connect directly to the netgear router and if you have disabled DHCP then give your self an IP address of 192.168.0.5 and subnet 255.255.255.0 no gateway needed (assuming the Netgear is still on that range)

2, Connect to that netgear router on its IP address (192.168.0.1)

3, Disable DHCP, give the router these details IP: 192.168.1.250 Subnet: 255.255.255.0 Gateway: 192.168.1.1

4, Reboot router and then connect this to the CAT5 cable.

5, Put your IP address back on your machine to obtain from DHCP rather than fixed

6, Once you have an IP address then try access the router on its new IP address (192.168.1.250)

7, If successful then well done you have networked it now you need to do the below

 

Sort out you SSID + Security for the Netgear router you have just installed

Create an DHCP exception for 192.168.1.250 or change the range to 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.249

 

This should then be up and working

Is anyone here a networking guru? Really starting to annoy me now haha!

I have got another wireless router for my bedroom/av room as itd a garage conversion which is detached from my house where the main virgin hub is.

I have a lan cable running from the house into my room into a wired lan router. I want to change this to wireless as i hate using my laptop with the lan cable so m trying to get this secondary wifi router to work and i just cant get it working!

So the structure of the network is as follows ...

Internet > Virgin Hub via Cable > AV Room via CAT5 > Netgear Router.

Ive changed all sorts of settings including stopping DHCP on the netgear router and the one thing i thinks stopping it working the IP address .. ive got 192.168.0.1 on the virgin and 192.168.1.1 on the Netgear.

Am i right in thinking the Netgear needs to be on the same IP but outside of the DHCP pool (virgins is set to 192.168.0.2-192.168.0.254)? For some reason the Netgear wont let me change it as its not matching the ip mask or something along them lines.

At this point ive been trying for 4 hours and i give up - I need help!

So does anyone know anything at all about networking? [emoji53] [emoji53]

 

192.168.0.x and 192.168.1.x are different subnets and won't talk to each other without specific actions/kit and/or setup.

 

All of yours should be on 192.168.0.x addresses. Limit the Virgin hub to allocate 192.168.0.2 -> 192.168.0.99 as DHCP addresses.

 

On the Netgear, disable DHCP and set its address to 192.168.0.100. Subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.

 

For WIFI, pick a new SSID name and select the right security (WPA/WPA2?) and setup the password.

 

HTH

 

 

PS: If you've any "reserved addresses" in the Netgear's LAN IP setup, get rid of them first.

J.

Edited 12 February, 201511 yr by vindaloo

This should be easy

1, Connect directly to the netgear router and if you have disabled DHCP then give your self an IP address of 192.168.0.5 and subnet 255.255.255.0 no gateway needed (assuming the Netgear is still on that range)

2, Connect to that netgear router on its IP address (192.168.0.1)

3, Disable DHCP, give the router these details IP: 192.168.1.250 Subnet: 255.255.255.0 Gateway: 192.168.1.1

4, Reboot router and then connect this to the CAT5 cable.

5, Put your IP address back on your machine to obtain from DHCP rather than fixed

6, Once you have an IP address then try access the router on its new IP address (192.168.1.250)

7, If successful then well done you have networked it now you need to do the below

 

Sort out you SSID + Security for the Netgear router you have just installed

Create an DHCP exception for 192.168.1.250 or change the range to 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.249

 

This should then be up and working

 

Did this fix your issues?

Just to let you guys know im away for a while so ill try therse solutions when i get back home. If it doesnt work ill let yas know!