More commonly referred to as the ‘Front Assist Radar Technology’ system or ‘FART’ for short.

 

I will have this on my new car which I am collecting on 1^st March but would like to ask other owners with this system if, when used in the ‘ACC’ format, what is the lowest speed it will go down to? If the speed limit is 40 and ACC is set at 40 will it still function at 20 or less mph? The car will use the DSG box. I watched a YouTube video with it apparently functioning on a motor way and then slowing down to town driving conditions. This is on a Golf but assume that it's the same system as on the Skoda?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbLNCQt2aS8

I believe on the dsg, it can slow you right down to a standstill if need be

It will stop you, but once you have stopped it beeps at you to then stand on the brake.

 

The car does not have auto hold (like the Golf/A3) so will not hold the car stationary indefinitely, it's dumb as it's obviously capable of doing so as it just brought the car to a halt! For some reason VAG have decided this option is only compatible with an electronic handbrake (which is fine and I understand why as there are other times when Auto Hold needs to apply the hand brake, but this one ACC scenario should be excluded IMO).

 

If you don't brake when beeped at it will creep forward again into the the stationary car in front of you.

I should add, the act of braking disengages ACC, so you will need to flick the stalk again once rolling to have it start keeping pace automatically again.

It will stop you, but once you have stopped it beeps at you to then stand on the brake.

 

The car does not have auto hold (like the Golf/A3) so will not hold the car stationary indefinitely, it's dumb as it's obviously capable of doing so as it just brought the car to a halt! For some reason VAG have decided this option is only compatible with an electronic handbrake (which is fine and I understand why as there are other times when Auto Hold needs to apply the hand brake, but this one ACC scenario should be excluded IMO).

 

If you don't brake when beeped at it will creep forward again into the the stationary car in front of you.

Thanks for that, I thought the the Front Assist was designed specifically to stop you going into the car in front. If you come to a stop with the ACC, would quickly applying the handbrake work as long as you did not touch the foot brake?

Well Front Assist only kicks in if you are actually going to hit something because you forgot to brake/didn't have time to react to brake, more often than not it will not prevent a collision, only lessen it... It only works above 30kph I think.

 

ACC will hold you stationary briefly, like a few seconds, before beeping. I'm not sure what happens if you hold the car with the handbrake rather than footbrake (I don't actually have ACC on my vRS to try). I suspect the ACC actually gets disabled at the point of beep regardless of you pressing the brake or not, so the reason you creep after beep and no intervention is the ACC has disconnected and so released the brakes.

There is a very small window where the car says to apply the brake and if the car in front pulls away ACC will accelerate the car up to cruising speed.

 

In the Golf you can just pull the ACC stalk towards you and the car will pull away form stopped in the Skoda you have to be moving first.

 

I use mine around town where there is free flowing traffic and a high chance of RADAR guns.

 

If you turn FART off then ACC will not work.

 

FART is a collision mitigation system and is not guaranteed to stop you hitting the car in front, also there are two types of FART city FART in the Citygo designed to work sub 30 mph and active FART for speeds up to 80MPH.

As David Coultard once said "you can't FART in a high speed corner without risk of ****ting yourself"

When I experienced the crisp packet effect, FART was not what I said.

The other thing is coming up to three lanes of traffic with cars each side and a curve in the road, you get the red car warning as FA detects a pending crash.

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Yea, I had the odd bit of road furniture confuse it in my SQ5. It did prevent a crash once when a tit indicated to pull off left, and then decided to slam the anchors on in the middle of the road as they saw their passenger to be at the side of the road!

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If they fit a FART to your car that's dated 2013/14, does that mean you've got an old FART in your car? 

There is a very small window where the car says to apply the brake and if the car in front pulls away ACC will accelerate the car up to cruising speed.

 

In the Golf you can just pull the ACC stalk towards you and the car will pull away form stopped in the Skoda you have to be moving first.

 

I use mine around town where there is free flowing traffic and a high chance of RADAR guns.

 

If you turn FART off then ACC will not work.

 

FART is a collision mitigation system and is not guaranteed to stop you hitting the car in front, also there are two types of FART city FART in the Citygo designed to work sub 30 mph and active FART for speeds up to 80MPH.

 

My Avensis has a speed limiter so I can set up a 30 limit and the car will not go over this until I turn it off. Modern cars are generally so smooth you don't really notice your doing 40 until you see the van with the camera poking out the rear window. And of course by then it's too late!

 

As said by Dempsek above this is the reason I am asking about the F.A.R.T system and hoping I could use it as a speed limiter, it seems that it would do that - up to a point - so I would just have to get used to re-activating ACC with the control stalk fairly smartish.

 

Okay, running at 30mph, traffic slows down - ACC slows down. Traffic stops - ACC brings car to standstill. Hold car on Foot brake - ACC cancelled.

Car in front moves off - foot off the brake and DSG allows the car to creep forward.

I re-activate ACC with the control stalk. Car then continues at variable speed up to max 30mph, until the traffic stops and then it starts over. Is that how it works?

 

Okay, running at 30mph, traffic slows down - ACC slows down. Traffic stops - ACC brings car to standstill. Hold car on Foot brake - ACC cancelled.

Car in front moves off - foot off the brake and DSG allows the car to creep forward.

I re-activate ACC with the control stalk. Car then continues at variable speed up to max 30mph, until the traffic stops and then it starts over. Is that how it works?

I can accelerate past the speed set for ACC, useful on motorways.

 

You are pretty much correct how ACC works. If the car has come to a stop and up to 20secs latter the car in front move off the car will accelerate up to cruising speed. If you have had to apply the brake ACC will be cancelled and you will need to drive off and re-activate ACC.

Regarding Front Assist, it can generate the Red Screen of (Not) Death on some run ins to roundabouts, as it doesn't understand that the car directly in front (as it sees it) is actually in the lane to the right (in the UK and other places where one drives on the left).

Edited 19 February, 201511 yr by DamageLimitation

I had that red screen appear quite a few times when I first got my car, it always startled me, particularly as I had no idea what it was as the warning light showing the red car doesn't appear to be in the manual and the dealers couldn't tell me what the light was for a long time either! Thing is, on virtually every time that warning light came on there wasn't even a car anywhere near in front of me in my lane so I don't really know what it was picking up.

And the one time that there was something in front of me, a car in front suddenly decided to turn left, I braked slightly but wasn't going fast as was in a 30 mph limit but the warning light flashed up and the brakes went very strange, completely out of my control. The situation was completely safe but the way the Front Assist kicked in was positively dangerous, the car was not under my control at that point. It was only after that incident that the dealers finally explained about Front Assist, can't say I'm too convinced about its usefulness yet!

Mind you when I think about it, the garage said something about Adaptive Cruise Control being the reason for the cars strange behaviour that day, not Front Assist but as far as I can see my car doesn't have Adaptive Cruise Control, so if they don't understand their own cars, heaven help the poor owner!