All season tyres - Recommendations?

[Gavn Tobin]

Hello,

 

What all season lyres would people recommend for a FWD 170DSG Superb.

 

Located in IRL so don't' need the full snow tyre.  Want something non summer i can leave on all year round.

 

Regards,

 

GT

[Wardy]

I'd go for the Goodyear Vector 4Seasons http://www.goodyear.eu/uk_en/tires/passenger/vector-4seasons/ or the Vredstein Quatrac: http://www.vredestein.co.uk/car-tyres/all-season/

[c21vhpd]

Happy so far with my Vredstein Quatrac 5s after about 8k miles. Quiet, efficient, grippy enough and seem to deal with standing water OK as well.

[Stinker]

Might depend on what's available in your size. Some aren't available in 18" if that's what you have.

 

As you probably know these are a trade off between winter and summer performance depending on the softness/hardness of the compound. Softer compound is better on ice, harder compound better in warmer temperatures. They're all good in the snow. Ground clearance stops you before traction.

 

I'm currently using Hankook Optimo 4S on my superb in 225/45/17 94V XL size. They are a reasonably hard compound and handle really well. No softness in the sidewalls whatsoever, even a bit too hard maybe over the bumps. They are very slightly noisier (as they all will be) than the Goodyear Eagle F1 summers they replaced but not in an obtrusive or annoying way if that makes sense. They scrabble a bit trying to get the power down in 1st gear if you floor it. It was my intention to run these as winter tyres as I feel that full winters are too squidgy on warmer (12C+) days that we often get in UK in spring and autumn ( have had full Continental winters before). However I'm thinking these Hankooks would be a good all year tyre for our climate as they handle so well in everyday driving feeling very like a summer tyre and yet laugh at snow. Main failing is not feeling as secure on ungritted icy roads as a proper winter tyre.

 

Have also used the Goodyears Vector 4 seasons in a similar size on a Honda Accord 2.2 diesel. They are a softer sidewalled tyre and felt more akin to a winter tyre, squirming a bit when pushed in the corners and not giving the same precise steering feedback that the Hankooks do but better on the ice.

 

Have never used the Vredesteins but only because my local fitter doesn't stock them. They seem to be very well received in the press.

 

Hope that helps.

Edited 20 February, 2015 by Stinker

[Kilkenny]

Gavin,I've been using Hankooks all season since 09. Brilliant in wet and dry,especially in very heavy rain,they seem to displace a lot of water and keep the car firmly on the road. I have them on both superbs now and have no intention changing,getting around 35k,Kim's

[smilny11]

I use Dunlop sport 01 allseasons. I find them marginally noisier than the asymmetrics but an absolutely cracking drive. Being down south I can't really justify full winters for the one or two days of snow we get each year.

[Stupotpat]

I've been looking for new tyres myself and have scoured the forums for advise.

 

Here are the tyres that most Briskodians seem to favour (apart from Michelins and Contintals - too expensive for me)

 

Goodyear Efficientgrip Performance

Uniroyal Rainsport 3

Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta / Cento

 

and the one's I am going to go for :-

 

SAILUN ATREZZO

 

These are listed as Budget tryes, but they have economy rating of 'B', a wet-weather braking performance of 'B' and a noise rating of 72dB.

There are 2 flavours - the Z4 and the ZS. The details are

 

SAILUN ATREZZO Z4+AS 92W RF  £41.33 delivered £57 fitted (1822540WSAZ4ASXL)

SAILUN ATREZZO ZS+ 92W XL         £45 delivered £60.56 fitted  (1822540WSAZSXL) 

 

Anyone know the difference?

 

I thought the Z4s were not XL (harder sidewall to cope with the pot-holes) but the code for the Z4s quotes them as XLs - still might go for the slightly  more expensive ones for the extra £14

Available from Valuetyres or mytyres but not sure about Ireland

 

Thanks to "The Don" for the reccommendation and information
 

 

[Wardy]

Might depend on what's available in your size. Some aren't available in 18" if that's what you have.

 

Good point on the available sizes, have noticed on All-Seasons the sizings are more limited.

 

What tyre size are you running GT?

[Noddy90]

Thanks to "The Don" for the reccommendation and information

 

 

The Don says, no problem.

 

You won't persuade anyone else, though - conservatism is deeply entrenched when it comes to tyres.  As is paying waaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the odds.  The money I saved by buying the Sailuns I've spent on crack cocaine, viagra and a duffle coat.  You know it makes sense...

 

Mine are still doing great, by the way: comfy, grippy, safe in all weathers...  I got the Z4s; don't know about the other.

[daesimps]

I put on some nexen n'priz 4s just before our last bought snow. People were stuck getting up our hill as it's quite steep but the Octy 3 went straight up like there was no snow there.

I find them quieter than the standard tyres. Economy seems to have improved slightly but could be coincidence. Plenty of grip in the cold/wet and have been good on the warmer days we've had too. I'll be sticking with them I think and will probably just bang another set on when these wear out.

Mine are 225/45/17 on a v rating

[Stinker]

The Don says, no problem.

 

You won't persuade anyone else, though - conservatism is deeply entrenched when it comes to tyres.  As is paying waaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the odds.  The money I saved by buying the Sailuns I've spent on crack cocaine, viagra and a duffle coat.  You know it makes sense...

 

Mine are still doing great, by the way: comfy, grippy, safe in all weathers...  I got the Z4s; don't know about the other.

 

Consider yourself blessed Ned; there's no way my wife would let me spend money on a duffle coat...

[Stinker]

Well got a stinking great nail in one of my Hankook all seasons. Long story short, tyre scrap with 6mm tread left. Goodyear F1 Asy 2 Eagle summer tyres back on and these are definitely a little quieter, roll better by about 2 or 3 mpg, ride softer and corner like on rails. So yes there are compromises with all season tyres.

Hey Ned, you still wearing that duffle coat?

Edited 9 April, 2015 by Stinker

[Pesmog]

There is a new tyre for 2015 out by Michelin that they are hailing as a game changer. Its called the Crossclimate.  They claim that it is the best all season tyre there is by some distance.  I have not yet seen any independent road tests to confirm this but I am keeping a close lookout for when there are some published. It does seem to be an unusual design so it is possible that they have found a different approach to solving the all season tyre problem.  Probably won't be cheap when released in May

[Huskoda]

There is a new tyre for 2015 out by Michelin that they are hailing as a game changer. Its called the Crossclimate.  They claim that it is the best all season tyre there is by some distance.

Of course they will, they're trying to get into the all-season market and sell a product. I don't think it will be any different to any of the other top all-season tyres on the market. Why are people suddenly so excited just because they're finally getting into the game?

[silver1011]

Being down south I can't really justify full winters for the one or two days of snow we get each year.

 

Located in IRL so don't' need the full snow tyre.  Want something non summer i can leave on all year round.

 

I know this has been done to death but they aren't 'snow' tyres, they are 'winter' tyres.

 

You aren't just buying winter tyres for the few days of snow you might or might not get, you are buying them for any weather conditions under an ambient air temperature of 7 degrees celcius, which for a large part of the UK is during the morning and evening commutes over the winter months.

 

At these temeprtures, regardless of if the road is dry, wet, icy or a mix 'winter' tyres offer an advantage over summer tyres.

 

'All Season' tyres offer a middle ground, not as good as winter tyres under 7 degrees and not as good as summer tyres over 7 degrees but a good balance for use throughout the varying seasonal temperatures we see here in the UK.

[Noddy90]

Hey Ned, you still wearing that duffle coat?

 

Duffle coat back in the wardrobe now that Mr. Blue Sky's put in an appearance.

 

Atrezzos still doing fantastically in all types of weather and driving; not the slightest hint of regret.  Already planned what to do with the £250+ I save when I next re-boot: I'm going to buy a Wendy House and fill it with caviar.  Because I can.

[Stinker]

Atrezzos still doing fantastically in all types of weather and driving; not the slightest hint of regret.  Already planned what to do with the £250+ I save when I next re-boot: I'm going to buy a Wendy House and fill it with caviar.  Because I can.

Just paid £86 each fitted and balanced for Goodyears in 17" which I thought was very good.

Can you still get Wendy houses?

[Eck45]

Just a wee note on tyres - Does it effect your performance much if you put two "Say" Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta on the front (I need new front tyres) and my goodyears on the back - would appreciate your thoughts Guy's

[psycholist]

It's usually better to put the best tyres on the back so the front loses grip first in aquaplaning/marginal traction. Probably less of an issue with ESP equipped cars though. If the back tyres are still well off being worn out just replace the fronts, but it's better to rotate the tyres every few months to even out the wear on them. Different tyres on the same axle is definitely not recommended though.

[Wardy]

Not really an issue, if both pairs are decent spec.

 

I'd also fit your best set with the most tread to the rear

[Lady Elanore]

Has anyone read much about the new Michelin Cross Climate tyre? I've read a little bit about it and the write ups are remarkable. A decent summer tyre and a good winter tyre It will probably be expensive I guess, but it might be the thing for my Vitara (little SUV not the original Off Roader type)

 

Michelin Cross Climate

[silver1011]

See post #13 

 

Discussed a little here too...

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/348870-michelin-cross-climate-tyre-the-way-forward/?hl=%2Bcross+%2Bclimate#entry4197722

 

Aren't they just Michelin's take on a standard all-season tyre plus some expensive marketing?

Edited 16 April, 2015 by silver1011

[nick74]

Yep, Goodyear, Vredestein and Falken (and others) have been selling decent all season tyres for years. Michelin are late on the scene but seem to have a better marketing department!

Edited 16 April, 2015 by nick74