Oh your saying that brake components don't need copper grease nowadays because of the adhesive patch on the rear and stainless steel inserts?

No I didn't say that, I said

 

'Though I always use it myself for my own vehicles I have a feeling its use is not recommended now.'.

Genuine question or a wind-up? 

 

 

 

 

Yes,  8 pads,  one set of 4 on the front,  one set of 4 on the rear.  One each side of every brake disc. Pads squeeze together trapping the disc to  make the brakes work. 

 

If you genuinely know so little,  please don't go to a  dealer who will  play on that and bleed you dry

 

Mike 

 

Sorry its just the invoice confusing me. £50.26 for 4 front brake pads meaning they are around £10 each. They could have put quantity 8 instead of 1 on the invoice to make life simpler. With your guys help of knowledge hopefully dealer wont bleed me dry.

Sorry its just the invoice confusing me. £50.26 for 4 front brake pads meaning they are around £10 each. They could have put quantity 8 instead of 1 on the invoice to make life simpler. With your guys help of knowledge hopefully dealer wont bleed me dry.

There are certain things that are taken as standard.

 

Pads are replaced in sets

Disks in pairs

Springs in pairs

Shock absorbers in pairs.

etc etc

 

Saying that I went in to Lucas once and they did ask me if I wanted one disk or 2. I thought they were joking but they were being serious. they said they were often asked for just one.

 

Nowadays things are normally sold in sets, pairs etc- though I have known of garages only fitting part of the set and then using what's left on another vehicle. They are the places to avoid.

Edited 21 March, 201511 yr by Tinbum

Ok from everything I said can we rule out the brake servo air leak as nobody has addressed my last statement regarding that?

 

Meaning the possibilities left are as mentioned in this thread:

 

- Brake discs touching brake guards at the rear? Surely that will make a grinding metal on metal sound?

 

- Lack of greasing brake components?

 

- Brake pads/discs not re-assembled properly due to poor workmanship at the skoda dealership?

 

Anything else that can cause that faint hardly recognisable noise?

You can rule out the brakes not being assembled correctly as they wouldn't feel ok if they were. They wouldn't have worked ok for 8000 miles if that was the case. 

 

Do you hear the noise only when the car is showing down? If yes then it is either a mechanical noise of the pads on the discs or a  servo  leak.  If you can hear it with the car stopped and your foot on the brake pedal then it a servo air leak,  in this case it can't be the pads on the discs as the discs won't be turning. 

 

Trying to diagnose your problem without looking at the car is nigh on impossible.  Please let an INDEPENDENT  look at it.  You will end up spending an awful lot more  at the dealership. 

 

Mike 

 

Yes I can hear the faint noise when car is slowing to a stop because obviously environmental noise is more quiet when slowing down meaning the noise is more obvious in quieter conditions. No noise at all when car is fully stopped then brake pedal is pressed meaning we can rule out brake servo air leak?

 

When you say mechanical noise of pads on discs is not normal right?

Yes, no noise when stopped means the noise is caused by the pads rubbing on the discs as the brakes are actually stopping the car.

 

To be brutally honest with you, knowing this, and the fact that the brakes feel fine, I am now suggesting that there is nothing wrong at all -- and ONCE AGAIN I'm suggesting not going to the dealer to pay £96 for the privilege of them telling you so. A good independent would check the car over and return it to you telling you all is OK for a fraction of the cost that a dealer would.

 

Remember that not all brakes pads are the same -- those made from a harder material may well be slightly noisier than other in use.

 

PLEASE -- heed advice -- I'm trying to save you a lot of money here, and stop you from getting a big bill when it is totally unnecessary.

 

Mike

 

Ok I thought when there is a noise there is a problem especially when it comes to brakes.

Does anyone else in these forums have this brake noise when braking suggesting its normal?

Have you only owned the car for 2 months, and did you buy it from a Skoda dealer?

Have you only owned the car for 2 months, and did you buy it from a Skoda dealer?

Yes owned it for 2 months. Car was bought private. This problem annoying noise was noticed a month ago.

As I posted in the other thread,  in that case forget any warranty.  It won't be transferrable to any new owner. 

 

Mike 

 

I phoned the dealership where the previous owner took it to and they said I can take it to my local branch as long I have the receipt of the work done plus I have to show proof that I am the new owner like for e.g. logbook.

I am confused on the skoda warranty terms and conditions. Can someone please clarify.

Yes I still went there but didn't let them touch my car because of the £96 investigative charge. I think its a scam and puts customers off making a possible genuine claim under the warranty however I manage to get several pages of printouts from them of my car data including all the PR codes so it wasn't a wasted journey after all.

 

I took everyone advice and instead I booked an appointment for next Monday afternoon at my local VAG specialist:

 

http://www.centralaudivw.co.uk/

 

Looking at their website their health check is free and they check the brakes in their health check. I will just tell them to just check the brakes, coil springs and anti roll bar bushes.

I don't see any harm in saying:

 

"I'd like the free health check.  I'm particularly concerned about a noise when my brakes are applied (describe noise) and a noise when going around corners (describe noise.  I've had friends tell me it might be X, Y, Z but I'd like the opinion of a specialist."

 

As a mechanic, I'd appreciate the heads-up that I need to pay a bit more attention to those areas during the inspection.  It might also encourage me to take the customer for a drive so they can point out the noise.

 

One small piece of advice.  I no longer work in the trade and take my car to a VAG specialist for major services.  These guys are like gold to me.  They aren't cheap but they are honest & go out of their way to help me when needed. 

I always take a small gift for the workshop staff.  It might be a cheap cake or donuts from the local supermarket, a packet of biscuits, a dozen cans of coke or even fruit from one of the family fruit trees.  I'd take them beer but the apprentices don't drink alcohol. Worth every penny.

In fact I wont tell them my problems at all and let them get on with the health check. If this so called Birmingham VAG Specialist is so good then they be able to pick up the problems without me telling them. If they come back and say my car has passed the heath check then it shows they haven't checked properly.

 

I keep you guys updated.

The rear pads and disks on my 1.6 make a very similar sound. Mainly more noticeable upon first getting in the car but a lot less noticeable once out and driving around. Think it's mainly due to the complete lack of any sound proofing in the car.

Does it happen mainly when the car is cold? You will get noticeably more braking noise from brakes when they are stone cold. Where are you based?

Genuine Skoda rear pads are made from quite a hard compound. When the brakes are cold you will hear the pads come into contact with the disks which will make a scuffing/scratching (shhh,shhhh) noise which is the noise made from the disks turning in between the clamping action of the hard compound pads

Sort it out,Skoda..its right across the range by the sounds of it,very agricultural and undignified.Its the only thing that really drives me bloody nuts on my car.

Edited 25 March, 201511 yr by faradaycage

Yeah one of my main Criticisms about my Octy is complete lack of sound proofing. Being out in heavy rain is horrible and I once had to go through a drive through car wash and the noise of the water against the doors was horrific. Like being in a coke can.

No matter how many times this is said, I doubt that the OP will listen. He's convinced something is wrong, even he has admitted a couple of times that he doesn't understand about cars.

Perhaps when he gets a bill for somebody telling him yet again he might accept this.

Skoda could have solved loads of these issues by simple sound proofing, I don't get much if any noise from front brakes but rears when cold are quite noticeable especially as my road only has one entrance/exit so from my front door I have to use a parking space a little further up to 3 point turn and leave. When pulling into this space to do the 3 point turn at slow speeds the noise from rear are quite noticable even with windows up. Within maybe 5 mins or so you barely hear them.

If OP is refusing to accept that it's normal and convinced some this is wrong. Need I say. I would never drive a car with faulty brakes..... So there's always the bus

Edited 25 March, 201511 yr by Mikek3111

Yeah one of my main Criticisms about my Octy is complete lack of sound proofing. Being out in heavy rain is horrible and I once had to go through a drive through car wash and the noise of the water against the doors was horrific. Like being in a coke can.

I would give up a few fripperies like aux input,heated mirrors etc if they had just spent £100 on some sound deadening paste/bitumen/insulation mat in the front wheel arches and an extra £20 in under bonnet sound deadener.Come on Skoda,you keep putting the prices up,up the quality too.It will pay dividends to you in the long run.

I would give up a few fripperies like aux input,heated mirrors etc if they had just spent £100 on some sound deadening paste/bitumen/insulation mat in the front wheel arches and an extra £20 in under bonnet sound deadener.Come on Skoda,you keep putting the prices up,up the quality too.It will pay dividends to you in the long run.

Same here. I would have happily given up some toys just for some decent sound deadening. I'd even be happy if they just covered the body with dynamat. Although being Skoda probably have more chance of dynamite

Cabin noise is quite loud especially on some of the country lanes round here and on slightly rougher Tarmac.

Same here. I would have happily given up some toys just for some decent sound deadening. I'd even be happy if they just covered the body with dynamat. Although being Skoda probably have more chance of dynamite

Cabin noise is quite loud especially on some of the country lanes round here and on slightly rougher Tarmac.

On freshly laid,flat pristine roads,mine is a dream..........but I live in Dorset where the words Competently Laid Quality Road Surfaces,appear to be swear words in the PC council depot dictionary.I love my car,and would generally and genuinely recommend Skoda to anyone...but.....nobody should have to spend a couple of hundred quid plus,to soundproof their car to barely acceptable levels at best.I'm getting really Victor Meldrew about this subject now....with a bit of Alf Garnett thrown in for good measure...lol

On freshly laid,flat pristine roads,mine is a dream..........but I live in Dorset where the words Competently Laid Quality Road Surfaces,appear to be swear words in the PC council depot dictionary.I love my car,and would generally and genuinely recommend Skoda to anyone...but.....nobody should have to spend a couple of hundred quid plus,to soundproof their car to barely acceptable levels at best.I'm getting really Victor Meldrew about this subject now....with a bit of Alf Garnett thrown in for good measure...lol

Yeah it's got so annoying I've considered ripping all the interior out and doing it myself. Apart from buying the wrong engine I love my car just wish it was quiter in the cab.

I live just outside Newmarket and most of the roads are A roads or country lanes which haven't seen decent Tarmac since they were laid. But on some newer roads it's not too bad.

The noise happens regardless of hot or cold. I'm based in Birmingham

 

Oh so I see its a common problem due to lack of sound proofing? So this means if I drive another same octavia I should hear the same sound as its a common problem right?

 

Why would Skoda make hard brake pads that will last longer that makes a annoying sound?

Edited 25 March, 201511 yr by Laureen1979