Clocking a turbo is relatively easy - there's a few bolts around the housing you loosen off and can spin it carefully.  Easier off the car for sure.

hmm what you recommend a novice to do :P

If it's the KKK unit, which I think you pictured the other day?

It's awful to do on the car, will need it to be removed and on a bench to do it.

Think I'd rather go to an exhaust place and get a different piece of pipe made

The people that say it's easy will generally have new garret turbos your KKK doesn't have bolts around the housing, it has a giant circlip which will be seized in place to start with, and even if you get it slack the housing will also be solid in place.

I suggest removing the turbo from the car and clocking it on the bench or getting a different pipe and leave the turbo alone.

If it's the KKK unit, which I think you pictured the other day?

It's awful to do on the car, will need it to be removed and on a bench to do it.

Think I'd rather go to an exhaust place and get a different piece of pipe made

The people that say it's easy will generally have new garret turbos your KKK doesn't have bolts around the housing, it has a giant circlip which will be seized in place to start with, and even if you get it slack the housing will also be solid in place.

I suggest removing the turbo from the car and clocking it on the bench or getting a different pipe and leave the turbo alone.

 

Thanks mate, great answer for when ds suggest "just clock the turbo"

Thanks mate, great answer for when ds suggest "just clock the turbo"

No problem.

I've clocked two KKK's now, both needed to be removed and large circlip pliers used to get the clip loose. Needed a hammer and chisel with some plus gas to get it started as well, then the circlip pliers and larger screw drivers to get it removed. Then I needed a dead blow hammer to give it a knock round.

Then the fun can start of putting the circlip back in place, which you should renew ideally.

Not saying it's impossible to do on the car but it's just easier to remove the turbo for the sake of about 10 copper nuts.

I've got a nackered KKK in the garage I could take you some pictures of if it would help you get a better idea of the job you've potentially got?

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I wont be doing it, i have a drive way, as a work area lol, unfortunately no garage, work bench etc :(

 

So i guess options are :

 

-All pipes go back to darkside

- Modify darkside pipes

- take car to mechanic to clock the turbo, but if its such a ball ache on a turbo thats covered 141k im guessing likely turbo will be fcked!

-Remove turbo, throw in the bin, and buy a pd 150

 - bodge some pipe work and drive to ds and get them to fit it (they did offer)

 

Any other options lol ?

-All pipes go back to darkside

No good unless they offer a full refund. You'll have the same problem with any other kit really.

- Modify darkside pipes

This is the best bet I'd think. Although you have a lot of pictures they arnt 100% clear to me exactly how far off it is or what angle needs to be changed.

- take car to mechanic to clock the turbo, but if its such a ball ache on a turbo thats covered 141k im guessing likely turbo will be fcked!

It's possible. I wouldn't rule it out as an option, just be a shame to pay someone labour to put your old turbo back on for it to fail in 2k time or something.

-Remove turbo, throw in the bin, and buy a pd 150

I'd get a hybrid rather than a pd150, but I get the idea, a different turbo you can clock would be an answer. However if you can remove the turbo and fit a pd150, I'm sure you can remove it and get a garage to clock it for you?

- bodge some pipe work and drive to ds and get them to fit it (they did offer)

If you can do that and it's free of charge why not. They will only bend the pipe slightly. If you know the angle or can roughly guess it, just take it to them and get that done.

If you're turbo is not setup / pointing right way for the hardpipe kit, then you have no recourse through DS.  Their stuff is designed / made to a spec so can't allow for this.

 

I had the same when I bought their exhaust but wasn't using their manifold so my turbo wasn't in the same position so had to alter exhaust flange quite a lot.  Then I bought their manifold, so had to put the exhaust back again LOL.

If you're turbo is not setup / pointing right way for the hardpipe kit, then you have no recourse through DS.  Their stuff is designed / made to a spec so can't allow for this.

 

I had the same when I bought their exhaust but wasn't using their manifold so my turbo wasn't in the same position so had to alter exhaust flange quite a lot.  Then I bought their manifold, so had to put the exhaust back again LOL.

When buying i chose the option for turbo "standard/ hybrid"

"57mm Alloy pipes to fit perfectly in place of the stock pipes" taken from http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/hard-pipework-kit-for-seat-ibiza-vw-polo-skoda-fabia-with-seatsport-fmic.html

 

There is no mention of needing to clock the turbo to fit!

You can clock the compressor housing in place,no need to remove turbo.

It's the turbo core that is a ball ache to clock resulting in the VNT/actuator needing setting up

Edit;

Just read it's kkk!

Forget what I said above!!!

Back to the issue,just get a piece of alloy pipe off ebay,cut up your DS pipe and cut the extra pipe to fit Inbetween then get it welded up.

When buying i chose the option for turbo "standard/ hybrid"

"57mm Alloy pipes to fit perfectly in place of the stock pipes" taken from http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/hard-pipework-kit-for-seat-ibiza-vw-polo-skoda-fabia-with-seatsport-fmic.html

There is no mention of needing to clock the turbo to fit!

95% of people with a standard car won't need to do anything. Yours is just awkward

 

 

There is no mention of needing to clock the turbo to fit!

 

Yours might not be clocked into the normal position.  Was it using all OEM pipework before?

yes was all standard

yes was all standard

 

Then that is very odd.  Turbo shouldn't need clocking at all then (in theory)

The only thing I can think of is they have sent you a GTB lower pipe in error.

I've got a hybrid pd150 on mine. I've I get time tomorrow I'll try and get some pictures of it to compare to your setup. Might show up where your actual problem is.

I've got a hybrid pd150 on mine. I've I get time tomorrow I'll try and get some pictures of it to compare to your setup. Might show up where your actual problem iok cheers

ok cheers pal

Looking at pics your standard pipework has been rubbing on driveshaft massively? 

 

I thought it was only aftermarket/larger pipework that had this issue?

 

This could also point to your turbo outlet being in a different position than standard.

Looking at the turbo, the outlet is definitely in the wrong position. (should be pointing down instead of back towards the firewall) To me that says that the turbo has been replaced at some point in the cars life as most turbos come set up for a golf style fitment (pointing back to firewall) and need clocking before they're put onto the fabia. So of you modify the pipes then it still won't fit properly and may may be tricky to do it without rubbing on the drive shaft. And when it's time for a new turbo they won't fit the new one. The best option for me would be to clock the turbo back to where it should be. It is doable on your driveway though with pretty basic tools

Hope this helps

Looking at pics your standard pipework has been rubbing on driveshaft massively? 

 

I thought it was only aftermarket/larger pipework that had this issue?

 

This could also point to your turbo outlet being in a different position than standard.

It was standard

 

Then it was DIY to original intercooler

 

now fmic

It was standard

Then it was DIY to original intercooler

now fmic

you need much more room between pipes and driveshaft when you redo it!

Remember the shaft moves forwards slightly when your turning

And also the engine moves quite a lot.

you need much more room between pipes and driveshaft when you redo it!

Remember the shaft moves forwards slightly when your turning

And also the engine moves quite a lot.

Yes and i dont see how clocking the outlet further down will do anything but bring it nearer to the driveshaft.

Because.... Coskev said why

Ok im going to take the turbo out, and if i feel i cant clock it, take to a mechanic. I think its better to put the turbo in the correct position, than chop pipes that wont be right for turbo swaps in the future.

 

At the min im fighting rounded manifold bolts... does anything go smoothly?

I'd do it if I could be botherd.

Costs very little to do, about £60.

His are Ebay jobies anyway not darksides.

Edit, may be wrong actually! Think they are DS. My bad.

How much to rattle a set off for me

Edited 11 July, 201510 yr by lupoluke