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I am/was seriously considering getting a new Fabia estate however, I have just specced one up on the Skoda website and have got to a figure of £21,789!

 

Now I know I have gone for the 105 diesel SE L and ticked quite a few options (some of which I would probably remove) but the best part of £22k seems crazy - or am I just being unrealistic?

 

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It does look nice but defo not 22k worth of nice, you could get a nice used octy vrs for that kind of cash

It is very expensive for a supermini. I think that the only cars that come close to it in terms of quality of build are the A1, the Polo and the new Mazda 2. The Fabia remains the best value, provided that

 

You use DriveTheDeal

 

You don't spec the diesel or the estate (together that ups the price by 2K and if you don't do stellar mileages, why would you want an oil burner).

 

It also looks sharper than any of the above. I was very tempted by the  Mazda 2 top of the range which, with all the options comes in at under £15k on brokers' websites. I just couldn't bring myself to love the look, however I am sure that it would grow on me... 1.5 petrol 115bhp with Nav and HUD. Looks good to me (or maybe not)!

They are expensive estates and there are better equipped ones from other manufacturers, even from Skoda.

 

But add near £3,000 in optional extras and you would need to be buying a keeper, 

and even then with any discount it is a crazy price for a 3 pot noisy diesel.

untick the diesel (removes £2000) untick the estate ( removes another £2000)

 

question is do you really need the diesel and the estate?

 

reason I ask is I did the same when I was looking to replace my GLII estate, I was looking at my wifes citigo running cost (about 11p-11.5p / mile) and my GLII was only about 1p/mile less, this was based on 2 1/2 years if real world calculations on my GLII (28k miles) and 18 months on the wifes citigo (15k miles) 

 

I always brimmed the tank, noted the trip computer mpg and the calculated mpg to get the variance of the 2 (PID was about 8% optimistic)

 

after 20+ years of driving diesels I now run a 1.2 petrol, much smother, no DPF regen, etc

 

it is worth thinking about the option as my calculation you have to do about 200,000 miles to break even purely on cost, and the government appears to be about to hammer diesel drivers after encouraging people to drive them

 

I binned the estate as well, opting for a removable towbar as I already have a small trailer for the odd occasions I need the extra space (and I don't dirty the boot with the garden rubbish :) :) )

 

I also binned the skoda as well (see my signature) as I was not impressed by the cost,spec and deals of the new fabia when I looked in February and i instantly disliked the interior when I sat in it as well as issue with dealer

 

just my two penneth for what it is worth

I hadn't quite got to the heady heights of £20k+ when speccing one up for us (a TSI 110 in our case) but the bottom line did take me aback a bit. A couple of things I noticed if you're looking at funding it by a PCP:

  • The monthlies on a TSI 110 are barely any different to a 90, because Skoda have given the former a notably higher final value. It's barely worth even considering the 90.
  • Getting a discount price from somewhere like Drive the Deal - who's offers don't push the 0% Skoda finance deals into touch - makes a BIG difference to the monthlies.
  • When you start getting up to the £17-20k mark, the frankly monstrous final values that Skoda are giving to the Yeti (especially the diesel 2WD) make the monthlies for them very attractive compared to a specc'd Fabia.

So I'm going to have a look at a Yeti soon, even though I started out looking at a Fabia estate.....

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Thanks for all the comments. 

 

My current Fabia is up to 235k miles (owned since new) and I need more space (dogs) hence the estate. 

 

With regards to funding, I can buy cash or finance but I had not heard of Drive the Deal - thanks for that!

might be worth looking at the lower spec rapids and Octavia's as they have similar spec to the SE/SE L fabias, you may have a surprise when compared to the fabia

 

mind you if you want a real laugh look at the cost of the golf estates :)

I've just moved from a Mk2 Fabia Monte Carlo Tech to a Mk3 TSI 110 SE estate on a 0% PCP with nothing to pay up front and the same monthly payments and I've just received a pre paid Visa debit card today with £500 on as this was the deal I got at the start of June, they were giving away £500 of free fuel.

So there are deals to be had through the dealers, you just have to haggle and play a couple off against each other. I never spec my cars up as it's dead money, optional extras are never taken into account when you come to sell it and get a trade in figure or valuation.

Fabias are now in expensive territory, like the Rapid, when compared to competitors, & with the average annual price rises across the Skoda ranging from £300 - £1500 p.a. depending on model, the Kia & Hyundia's are now becoming the value cars to have.

 

The Yeti looks very much like the last Skoda I will buy new, if I can afford one new it will def be another brand.

The new Skoda Superb Hatch & Estate look like pretty good value compared to the smaller Skoda models.

I am amazed how much of a car I got for £14k - Fabia III 1.2 tsi 90ps SEL. It's solid, comfortable, well spec'd, roomy, agile enough, solidly made (seems to be so far). If I'd wanted an estate I would be torn between the Fabia and the Rapid, but probably the Fabia would win anyway because its a better car... oh yes it is! Oh yes it is! ;)

Fabias are now in expensive territory, like the Rapid, when compared to competitors, & with the average annual price rises across the Skoda ranging from £300 - £1500 p.a. depending on model, the Kia & Hyundia's are now becoming the value cars to have.

 

The Yeti looks very much like the last Skoda I will buy new, if I can afford one new it will def be another brand.

smallest estate Hyundai do is the i30 tourer, have a look at http://www.hyundai.co.uk/new-cars/i30-tourer#specifications

 

it is slightly bigger than the fabia but worth a look just to possibly rule it out, I would suggest a visit to look at it. I did that with the i20 and bought one, very pleased with it

 

the one thing I disliked about the i30 was the instrument panel which is why I went with the new i20, but each to their own point of view

Thanks for all the comments. 

 

My current Fabia is up to 235k miles (owned since new) and I need more space (dogs) hence the estate. 

 

With regards to funding, I can buy cash or finance but I had not heard of Drive the Deal - thanks for that!

 

If Skoda are feeling generous enough to offer 0% finance, £0 deposit across the range, you'd be daft not to take it. If you've got the cash to pay up front, stick it in an instant access savings account and set up the DD to Skoda from it. The interest you earn will make the car even cheaper for you!

Peugeot 308 SW in various flavours can be had with discounts.

Seat Leon ST maybe if a demonstrator suited if buying a keeper.

Bother ride nicer than a Fabia Estate.

 

  • Getting a discount price from somewhere like Drive the Deal - who's offers don't push the 0% Skoda finance deals into touch - makes a BIG difference to the monthlies.

That's not quite right. Drive the Deal told me that if I wanted to take 0% finance, the deal would not be the same. In fact if you DO get a quote from their website, this is mentioned in the blurb beneath the quote.

That's not quite right. Drive the Deal told me that if I wanted to take 0% finance, the deal would not be the same. In fact if you DO get a quote from their website, this is mentioned in the blurb beneath the quote.

You could try carwow.co.uk which gives you 2 quotes - one for finance and one for cash

That's not quite right. Drive the Deal told me that if I wanted to take 0% finance, the deal would not be the same. In fact if you DO get a quote from their website, this is mentioned in the blurb beneath the quote.

 

Exactly. Precisely how much the penalty is for having the 0% finance is a little more tricky to quantify though, unfortunately. The only way to find out is to submit an enquiry, which is a pain when one's looking at several different cars and also different options on those cars. Lots of the other online brokers give the choice of discount or finance. DtD are less clear cut. In any case, if one is funding by a PCP, £500 of the dicount they show can be had just by walking into any Skoda dealers, by way of a deposit contribution that Skoda make

I paid £15266 for my TSI Estate through Carfile which included just over £1000 of extras. The thought of paying over 22K for a Fabia is incredulous. Each to their own though, it's just my opinion.

I paid £15266 for my TSI Estate through Carfile which included just over £1000 of extras. The thought of paying over 22K for a Fabia is incredulous. Each to their own though, it's just my opinion.

 

Did you get the £0 deposit, 0% finance as well, or was that a cash price?

But how do you know which dealers to approach? :)

 

A slight problem with Drive the Deal is that you're strictly limited to two finance quotes per person per year. That doesn't help much if you're trying to decide between a number of cars and options. If it's of any help to folks here, I've used one of my 'two' and got a price that's equivalent to an 8.4% discount from list, including several options, on a TSI 110 SE L estate. That offer keeps the Skoda 0% finance over 42 months and compares to the approx.10.8% discount you'll get if you run the same spec through their web pages (which is for an outright cash purchase). The online cash buyer discounts seem to be a pretty consistent percentage of the total list - around 10.4-10.8% on the Fabia, no matter what trim or options you pick.

Did you get the £0 deposit, 0% finance as well, or was that a cash price?

No, I bought it cash plus p/ex a Ford Focus.

First and easiest is to approach one near to you, because they are near and they might just match and beat and be your regular place to go, it is not rocket science just buying cars with cash money and no trade in.

i have priced a couple of Mk3's and the price keeps coming up the same as a polo GTi. 

 

But then the same is true of other model ranges.  Look at the price of Polo Gti, spec a Blue GT to same level and its more expensive.  Smae with Bmw 125i to 135i and same happens on the mini range now where its cheaper to get the higher spec model than spec a low spec model to similar spec.

 

If a VRS did come out, which i still hope it may it would need to be priced lower than the Polo Gti by at least £1000 which means 17500

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