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Police anti speed campaign 17-23 August

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Why?

 

Just stick to the speed limits or look out for speed traps.

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Agreed , just advising to keep a keener look out, seen a few very sneaky speed traps recently in Hampshire and they will all be out , with this campaign I doubt there will be any lee way so a few mph over equals points as they need statistics to look good. ( and the government needs the money.

I'm assuming you can say hand on heart you have never broken a speed limit, !!

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Agreed Chris

Ive had things flying past me, and ive been the one flying, but it only takes a red traffic light or a delay at a roundabout and they catch up anyway.

Unless youre doing it over a long journey ofc.

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I wish I had time to type so much. I was just giving a heads up, not trying to start another keyboard war. People make what they want if it !

Won't have to worry about this for a couple of days anyway. :D

We have a police speed week in Staffordshire this coming week. Although the local m way is buried under cones and the town is also full of roadworks so I expect placement of productive speed cameras Ect will be difficult. :sun:  

If TISPOL has them making special efforts at certain times does that equate to them not bothering too much about road safety and speeding the rest of the time. ?

Surely they have the same amount of Officers and Road Safety Partnership Vehicles all the time.

(or are there that many away at TISPOL Seminars & Conferences the majority of times?)

 

http://tispol.org

I don't recall a 'not using indicator week', 'blown headlight bulb week', 'not using lanes properly' week or 'red light jumper week'. I guess if you asked the police they would say they are on the look out for this all the time ? as they should be for speeding. So why a special speeding week ? Apart from it's easier to catch a driver speeding by a few mph and its self funding. :sun:   

European Wide Campaigns and the UK is in Europe we must keep being reminded.  

 Signs in MPH not KMPH and we drive on the wrong side, and England / Wales & Northern Ireland might or might not have the same drink driving limits as some European Mainland Countries.

But we are to be reminded the the British Isles is European.

(Total confusion because of actually showing a sign saying the Max Speed Limit for Passenger Cars we have a 

'National Speed Limit Sign' which to UK and Non UK Drivers in the UK can be a mystery as to its meaning,

sometimes because some never learned to drive out with a town or city.)

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I don't recall a 'not using indicator week', 'blown headlight bulb week', 'not using lanes properly' week or 'red light jumper week'. I guess if you asked the police they would say they are on the look out for this all the time ? as they should be for speeding. So why a special speeding week ? Apart from it's easier to catch a driver speeding by a few mph and its self funding. :sun:

Rather well put !!

Probably been a spate of burglaries in the area, they need to show some crime getting solved and it's the only one they can go for whilst turning a profit.

 

I saw the local Police Commissioner's collecting van out yesterday, strangely in exactly the place where I was planning to park, open the boot and do a stock take, so I had to park behind him instead. He didn't seem to mind, he just drove off.

I wish I had time to type so much. I was just giving a heads up, not trying to start another keyboard war. People make what they want if it !

Not sure where you get the keyboard war from.  I was merely offering an opinion.  I thought that was threads were for.

Your second post was a little blunt, many different ways to get the same point across whilst being more friendly.

Looking back on it I accept it could seem that way.  But I didn't have much time so just posted a quick response which I thought was to the point.  It isn't easy to convey meaning in threads as there is always at least a couple of ways it can be read.  If I have offended anyone I apologise as that was not my intention however I think my later post (when the Moto GP race I was watching had finished and I had more time) should have explained my viewpoint in more detail.

 

I must admit though I am beginning to think it is wiser to stick to any questions that interest me about Skodas and not have this bother.

I wish I had time to type so much. I was just giving a heads up, not trying to start another keyboard war. People make what they want if it !

Chill out

There is no war.

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Chill out

There is no war.

Chilled I am

Agreed no war, life's toooo short

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And why no National driving using the phone and not wearing seatbelt week?

Its more like an International  'Sponsored nab a speeder event', and jobs for the Boys in the Offices.

Points mean prizes, like maybe an outing to Disney World, but not that terrible one in France.

http://worldhighways.com/sections/general/news/tispol-european-speeding-crackdown-nets-120000-tickets-in-24-hours

Maybe it's to deflect public attention away from (or raise more money for) this great use of public money:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33868082/british-cops-in-magaluf-say-first-patrols-went-well

Anyone transporting illegals or contraband, maybe trained terrorists heading home must just remember to observe the speed limits,

maybe put those they are smuggling in cars on a Car Transporter & these thousands of Police Officers around Europe will just ignore you and catch real criminals & potential killers, because speed kills.

That is what you get when 'Targets' are set by Government and not Chief Constables.  In fact that is the problem with 'Targets' basically.  They are designed to make one aspect look good for the figures that can then be shouted about how good we are doing but ignoring anything else that is going on.

 

I used to drive by the Police HQ of Lincolnshire a couple of years ago and they had a massive sign saying something like "Domestic violence cut by X%".  I cannot recall the exact amount but it doesn't matter.  What does matter is that someone in the Police (Not a Police Officer) seems to think it necessary to spend money on making advertising boarding and then printing of posters to highlight a very small decrease in one crime.  Totally ignoring the fact that many other categories of crime had increased but of course they don't tell you that.

 

It is all down to 'spin' which relies on the fact that many people are naive enough to believe this crap spoon fed to them.  In any event the figures are massaged by moving goal posts so that some things are no longer classified as a criminal offence or some other way of hiding the real truth. 

 

For example many years ago when people used to buy milk off the milkman who delivered it in the early hours so it was on the doorstep for your breakfast they used to once a week leave money on the doorstep to pay for it.  Obviously this was a good source of income to those of a certain type.  You would get for example 30 or 40 or more different reports of the theft of cash from the doorstep.  These were reported as individual crimes and would make the crime figures for that Station look very bad if added to all the other stuff going on.

 

It was decided on High that in future these crimes would be collated and reported under one number thereby classifying them as one offence.  This made the crime numbers look far better.  What made them look better even still was if you caught someone who admitted said 40 different thefts from different doorsteps then they would then be reclassified as individual crimes which were the detected making the detection figures look far better.

 

Having been criticised for my length of posts already and having said I would keep to posts about Skoda I realise I may seem to be rambling but just in case no one had noticed this is the sort of thing I used to deal with on a daily basis and something I am still some 16 years later very passionate about.  I also am aware that this has wondered away from the topic but it is connected because of this 'Target' led culture.

 

Speed on it's own doesn't kill.  Bad driving can kill and that includes all the other stuff like driving under the influence of drink or drugs.  If people were caught driving badly and prosecuted the chances are that the publicity surrounding these prosecutions would raise awareness in people that driving badly can result in accidents or prosecution.  Standards of driving are now so poor mainly because there are insufficient numbers of Police Officers out there doing anything about it because they are tied up with paperwork from daft schemes set up by Government Targets.

 

This will only change in one direction.....worse!  Budget cuts in the two forces around here mean that officers are being taken off Roads Policing or being merged with other forces (centralised) which means the chances of them being out and about and seeing bad driving are even more remote.

 

There are a number of serving Police Officers on here but I wouldn't expect them to join this debate as to do so could lead to discipline charges if discovered.  I feel sure that some of them will agree with what I say because they are old school and some will disagree because they know no better.  What I am sure about is that there are many out there who would rather be doing real Police work and doing what they consider to be important on a daily basis rather than have what is important this week/month dictated to them.

 

Apologies if I have gone on a bit but that is the passion and I cannot help that.  It does not alter my original post on the subject one bit.  Speeding does not kill on it's own nor does it get you anywhere much faster on atypical journey.  If you speed you know the rules.  You only get done for what you are caught doing so either don't speed or keep a look out for speed traps.  Lets be honest here being vigilant when you drive is something that you should be doing anyway and if that means you see the van before you are on top of it and have chance to slow down all the good.  If you barrel around a corner where you can't see and there is one there and you get caught it is also possible you could have gone around that corner and not seen someone in the road.

 

Right off for a lie down now.  Nurse!!!!!

Why?

 

Just stick to the speed limits or look out for speed traps.

 

Or keep it above 160 where the camera's don't work :p

In response to Chris's comment above I don't believe there has been a significant reduction in driving standards. There are more vehicles on the road than 10/20 years ago and I think the same percentage of drivers cause problems, so the actual numbers of poor drivers about have increased but also there are many more who go about their business in a reasonable manner. 

 

Its interesting how gov and their agencies display statistics, for roads it's X number killed and injured but in A&E, for example, its 85% of people seen within a target time. The X number obviously makes an impact, where the % target avoids specific numbers. Yet if those attending A&E go up, the numbers not being seen goes up. But gov are reluctant to say an extra 20,000 folk were not seen promptly in A&E.

 

If we look at road statistics in % terms then they have fallen year on year for decades and this without the need for the increasing trend, seen today, to peruse motorists.

 

Why is gov happy to increase spending/efforts on speeding motorists, with accident rates falling, when they can't increase funding/efforts on A&E when percentages go the wrong way ?  

 

Unless a logical/equal approach can be seen across the board with gov and their agencies it is not surprising people feel there is an alterer motive involved and lets face it, its usually cash driven. :sun:             

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