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Hi all,

Have tried the ubiquitous search before posting but can't find one matching my issue.

2014 vrs. Cruise control: decreasing speed on engaged cc. Pressing the down button on stalk drops the cc setting by 1mph increments ok. But if I press it several times, say to drop from 70 to 65 rapid 5 presses, then wait a couple of seconds and press down again, it actually increases by 3/4mph? It's not consistent. Maybe 1 in 4 tries but its bloody dangerous. Several times I've tried to drop the speed and assume it's dropping when pressing Bitch look at the dash and its not decreased at all...Ive only had the car 3 days and I'm calling them tomorrow but I can't be the only one that's experienced this...unless the button is faulty....

tia

Experienced something similar today on my 2014 Elegance...

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Pop quiz: Is the car new to you and is that the first time its happened?

No, the car has about 12000Km, but I seldom use cruise control.

In my current car (Renault) if your current speed is higher than the set cruise speed - the first tap of the speed- button brings the cruise speed back up to the current speed and starts reducing from there.

Is it because the 'down' sets the cruise to your current speed. If for example you are causing at 70mph then brake press the up to resume 70mph, press down to set cruise at a new lower speed. A bit odd to happen if you haven't applied the brakes do disengaged CC.

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Edited by snowjoe

Pressing down button sets speed, pressing top restores it to what it was last at.

 

I think this is a case of picnic.

I think you are rattling 5 rapid presses, the speed is dropping only marginally, the pause then 6th press is setting at the slightly lower speed so not jumping at all

The first and subsequent quick presses of the lower button will reduce the cruise control speed in 1mph increments. If you then pause (unsure on the exact length of time needed), then press the lower button again the cruise control interprets this as a 'new' press of the button, thus setting whatever speed you are doing for the cc speed.

I think...

Will test today and report back.

Doesn't sound faulty to me, sounds like you are unfamiliar with the cc function.

I beleive a couple of posters above have hit the nail on the head and you are actually resuming a previous higher speed.

I have encountered similar but can't fully remember the circumstances, sounded similar to what you describe but once I got used to it, it was fine :)

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Thanks for the info. That makes sense. It is very annoying though. I've had quite a few cars with cc that don't do this. Mind you, they all had a separate stalk rather than using the indicator one, so there were more buttons and 4 way movement.

This is related to cc or acc?

 

Btw, I dont remember seeing this in manual either..

Hi, you are not resuming a previous speed, but setting a new speed, you hit the down button quickly in succession and the set speed drops by 1mph per press, but the car is only slowing down, you pause and press down again and you set a new speed at the speed the car is travelling at.

If I switch to sport mode the slow down works quicker.

Hope that's clear.

This is related to cc or acc?

 

ACC is different because you have 4 separate buttons Set, Resume, Inc & Dec. (I believe standard CC has only Res/+ , Set/- & cancel right?)

However, with ACC, pressing the "Set" button has exactly the same behaviour as described by FluffyEyeBall. (dec by 1kph or set to current speed)

Hi, you are not resuming a previous speed, but setting a new speed, you hit the down button quickly in succession and the set speed drops by 1mph per press, but the car is only slowing down, you pause and press down again and you set a new speed at the speed the car is travelling at.

If I switch to sport mode the slow down works quicker.

Hope that's clear.

Doesnt make sense to me because why would the car slow if you dont cancel current speed by pressing cancel before pressing set again. Still I dont see this behavior in manual.

 

 

ACC is different because you have 4 separate buttons Set, Resume, Inc & Dec. (I believe standard CC has only Res/+ , Set/- & cancel right?)

However, with ACC, pressing the "Set" button has exactly the same behaviour as described by FluffyEyeBall. (dec by 1kph or set to current speed)

 

I thought it was just cc, but these buttons in acc for inc/dec speed could be present on cc as well, at least I dont see a reason why not. Even better, would it be good if you had these buttons on the left side of the steering wheel amongst other controls like volume etc..

 

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I think its working as designed. So not a fault. I just need to account for this mildly annoying design. I'm just not used to the set button being shared with another function. It would be a little better if the set function had to be a press and hold. If it had acc then I wouldn't have this problem as that's essentially what I'm manually replicating. :)

I thought it was just cc, but these buttons in acc for inc/dec speed could be present on cc as well, at least I dont see a reason why not. Even better, would it be good if you had these buttons on the left side of the steering wheel amongst other controls like volume etc..

 

What I was trying to say was with the current O3 implementation of CC there are 3 buttons but with ACC you get 4 buttons (so with ACC its nicer because the Set function is not shared with the Dec & you dont get the problem highlighted by the OP).

 

The Passat now has steering wheel cruise control buttons so I was hoping this would come to the O3 but no signs yet.

The indicator stalk cruise control was one of the main things that always put me off buying a VW & the main reason I chose ACC to get a separate stalk.

 

After more than a year of driving , I have no complaints about the ACC stalk. Its easy to use & unlikley you will press something (like the indicator at the same time) by mistake.

 

However, with ACC you also need much less button input as the radar handles the changing set-speeds for you.

I'm sure if I had standard CC I would prefer the steering wheel buttons as you said.

What is the point of this function with cc, to lower by 1km/h with set button, I dont find this useful because the setting is too low, it should be like 5km/h per press, and also, I can do lowering by pressing cancel / resume (I although it doesnt should like this is a way to do it), and beside lowering I cannot increase the speed (unless I use my foot) so its useless to me..

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The on/off/cancel toggle switch is possibly the worst design and placing I've ever come across on top of the indicator stalk, its really fiddly to get to. It's such a shame as the rest of the car I ace.

The on/off/cancel toggle switch is possibly the worst design and placing I've ever come across on top of the indicator stalk, its really fiddly to get to. It's such a shame as the rest of the car I ace.

For me it's also annoying that you have to turn the cruise off to see the mileage on the car, as I need to keep a log of my mileages to/from customers for work.

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For me it's also annoying that you have to turn the cruise off to see the mileage on the car, as I need to keep a log of my mileages to/from customers for work.

The passat I've come from did the same, and the 1 series before that. I think its fairly common.

The on/off/cancel toggle switch is possibly the worst design and placing I've ever come across on top of the indicator stalk, its really fiddly to get to. It's such a shame as the rest of the car I ace.

My previous Civic had the CC controls on the right hand side of the steering wheel, this meant that I could comfortably drive with just my right hand on long journeys setting/increasing/decreasing speed with my thumb. It also had a big cancel button too so when I saw traffic was slowing down ahead of me I could just cancel the CC and slowly cruise to the speed I needed to get to instead of hitting the brake.

Although with the Octavia it does show the speed you have set the CC at I don't think the stalk controls are very good and wish I had known this before I ordered so I could have had a serious think about spec in the ACC.

Still an awesome car though.

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