Hi All,

Issue with the vRS. Pulled away from a roundabout and suddenly heard a gushing/sudden release noise and lost all power.

The engine won't turn past a certain point. We took each glow plug out one at a time and pushed the car in gear. Each cylinder is empty apart from number one. When we gave it a push black liquid shot out.

After this it started for about 30 secs but quickly stopped with lots of white smoke. The cylinder was then full again.

No oil in the water system from what we can see.

Anyone had similar? Thinking oil rings, one garage says it could be a leaking injector over the phone.

Cheers.

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I'd say injector also tbh.

Firsts person I've seen on here say the injector has filled the cylinder though!

Would the diesel be black after entering the cylinder?

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Depends which seal has been damaged, if the main copper washer has failed and the compression is going back past that it may have damage other seals, meaning it's diesel and oil?

Also it might be clean diesel that's cleaning out the piston making it look black.

Can you not tell if it's diesel by looking at it or the smell?

Check your oil as well to see if it has any diesel on the dipstick.

Leave it overnight with that piston a fair way up and see if it refills. If it does, it's likely to be diesel leaking through the injector. That's not to say if it doesn't, it's not though. If it empties, it's probably the ring.

Injector is fairly likely what it's going to be in my untrained bodging opinion.

If you've got access to a borescope without buying one it might be a good idea in case there's piston or bore damage that's obvious.

Otherwise, my money's on ring or head gasket. Makes sense to rule out everything else first though.

Is it modded?

Any coolant loss?

I did have to top up the coolant but it's the first time in three years and just go to min.

Have a friend plug in his diagnostics. Only got 65535 error

Ran it over with no glow plugs in and it was throwing oil out a few meters away from the car but defiantly only number 1 cylinder.

No engine oil left now. Defiantly not a day fix whatever.

Not had any luck yet finding a garage that would attempt replacing the rings. All say to big of a job.

Anyone recommend a garage In The Hampshire area?

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Edited 12 September, 201510 yr by dany2010

Oh dear!

Better off just replacing the engine!

Yep. That's seems to be the general opinion.

Going to cost a fortune. Only found one recon engine for just over £1k

Times like this when you wish you had a cheap banger, scrap it and get a new car for £500. No getting rid of this.

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They come up time to time around £300'ish. Wouldn't bother with reconditiond unless it's from a very good company. These engines are pretty reliable if serviced well and good for over 200,000 generally.

Still not going to be an easy job at the end of the day.

A decent secondhand engine has to be favourite although you've still got to budget for doing a full service including cambelt kit and it makes sense to do the clutch and DMF at the same time so not cheap with labour.

Had a quick look online. So far I can only see second hand with 55k miles for £600 and refurb for 1k

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Surely this will be the common PD fault of the injector seals?

The usual thing to happen is for the engine to run on the engine oil,Rev flat out until it's used all the engine oil as fuel then knacker the engine.

Pull injector one out and check the seals,a seal kit is only about a tenner.

Has cylinder one been compression tested?. You say it's needed a small amount of coolant, has the compression test shown low figures on number 1? To me it all sounds like you're guessing what's wrong and haven't actually had it correctly diagnosed by a mechanic. The replies above on this thread are all best guess without seeing the car but guessing on a description of what you say is happening.

Edited 14 September, 201510 yr by mattievrs

The rings wouldn't let enough oil past to fill the pot. either the turbo has gone and filled the pipework with oil or possibly the injector seal . I would put some oil in it and run it again with the boost pipe disconnected and see what happens then. As the cylinder was full of oil still I doubt it's rings but I bet it's bent the con rod now.